JJ Abrams: "Rey's parents are not in Episode VII"

SheLitAFire wrote:

motherofpearl1 wrote:So many people against Reylo....when if it becomes canon, it'll be how Rey truly becomes a 'Skywalker'.
And a Solo.

@motherofpearl1

If that happens I've already made this as a response:

snufkin wrote:Welp Mark Hamill just joked on American TV about Luke being a virgin and he's said that if you think he's gay, then he's gay. So are true Reywalkers gonna have a meltdown over those comments too?

I'm perverse enough after all the drama that I hope other than simply debunking that Luke did anything ever which could've resulted in a pregnancy (including sperm bank donations when he was broke), that they reveal Rey's parentage at the very end as a throwaway detail like this one

Darth_Awakened wrote:

snufkin wrote:Welp Mark Hamill just joked on American TV about Luke being a virgin and he's said that if you think he's gay, then he's gay. So are true Reywalkers gonna have a meltdown over those comments too?

I'm perverse enough after all the drama that I hope other than simply debunking that Luke did anything ever which could've resulted in a pregnancy (including sperm bank donations when he was broke), that they reveal Rey's parentage at the very end as a throwaway detail like this one

@snufkin

So, Virgin!Luke confirmed?

   

snufkin wrote:I totally get the anxiety that Disney will go the safe/conservative route. The franchise is a cornerstone of global pop culture that people love for specific reasons *and* we're talking about a corporation where the bottom line rules all. They want to ensure a succesful roll out and use of the brand, so there's not going to be anything to alienate fans.

That said, I went in to TFA with only a few spoilers and zero expectations. My interest in the OT was left behind in childhood so it was like seeing that universe and characters for the first time. All I knew about Rey is that she was waiting for her family to return and there wasn't anything that happened which made me ever think that she was a relative to any of the OT characters. What I very much did notice was Kylo's interest in her and that made me wonder if the plan was to have a straight forward hero-villain relationship. Or if it'd be something more complex. And by complex, I don't mean the joke you hear about how he stares at her after taking off the mask as "you'd only see a man looking at his cousin that way on Game of Thrones."

Speaking of that scene, I watch a lot of movies in general (the OT was part of a larger and ongoing obsession in my family with movies and movie history) and it reminded me of two specific scenes with a back and forth shift of power between the male and female leads. Which eventually leads to them getting involved

Sacrebleu wrote:

snufkin wrote:I totally get the anxiety that Disney will go the safe/conservative route. The franchise is a cornerstone of global pop culture that people love for specific reasons *and* we're talking about a corporation where the bottom line rules all. They want to ensure a succesful roll out and use of the brand, so there's not going to be anything to alienate fans.

That said, I went in to TFA with only a few spoilers and zero expectations. My interest in the OT was left behind in childhood so it was like seeing that universe and characters for the first time. All I knew about Rey is that she was waiting for her family to return and there wasn't anything that happened which made me ever think that she was a relative to any of the OT characters. What I very much did notice was Kylo's interest in her and that made me wonder if the plan was to have a straight forward hero-villain relationship. Or if it'd be something more complex. And by complex, I don't mean the joke you hear about how he stares at her after taking off the mask as "you'd only see a man looking at his cousin that way on Game of Thrones."

Speaking of that scene, I watch a lot of movies in general (the OT was part of a larger and ongoing obsession in my family with movies and movie history) and it reminded me of two specific scenes with a back and forth shift of power between the male and female leads. Which eventually leads to them getting involved

@snufkin

What I've never been able to quite figure out is how many experienced movie goers didn't see it.  I thought it was so obvious?  Then talking to other people and reading on line I found out that it wasn't obvious at all to some.  I am frankly puzzled by that.  Because I didn't think J.J. was all that subtle about it.

snufkin wrote:@Sacrebleu - me either! It never once entered my mind that she had any connection to Luke while watching the first time. But you better believe that it immediately entered my mind that Luke's nephew had a thing for her the moment he first laid eyes on her. And somehow I'm the crazy one or a bad fan for thinking that way. Or even a bad feminist, which is laughable because I'm a card carrying member of the Feminist Killjoy's Club.

snufkin wrote:@Sacrebleu - me either! It never once entered my mind that she had any connection to Luke while watching the first time. But you better believe that it immediately entered my mind that Luke's nephew had a thing for her the moment he first laid eyes on her. And somehow I'm the crazy one or a bad fan for thinking that way. Or even a bad feminist, which is laughable because I'm a card carrying member of the Feminist Killjoy's Club.

WhatGirl wrote:Pablo to Reylos: Go with what TFA tells you.
Pablo to ReySkys: Nothing in TFA suggested that.

Darth_Awakened wrote: to all of the posts above!

I have to be honest I had a moment of doubt: I do remember the exact moment: It was during the credits rolling in front me in the theater after I watched TFA for the first time. I had a moment of my brain working like crazy: with the two ideas clashing in my head.

I went in with a slight idea that the new girl (Rey) could be Han & Leia's daughter and a new villain some disfigured, ugly Sith unrelated to anyone.
During the movie: I noticed Reylo, at least Kylo Ren falling for Rey (by "pulling a Solo" during the interrogation scene) and I also fell into the trap of "this saber belonged to Luke and his father before him". Given the fast pace of the movie I completely missed the importance of the other part of Maz's words.

The moment I drop off Rey Skywalker for good was Pablo's tweet on the timeline of "Jedi Academy" incident. From that moment it was clear to me that every possible explanation of Rey Skywalker has to be ridiculously convoluted.

Darth_Awakened wrote:What's more important - Pablo has been the same around Reylo since the day 1. Not only during his mellow-phases.

Piper Maru wrote:Pablo clearly dislikes (1) Kylo as a villain (2) Reylo (3) shipping (4) JCF, Tumblr, Reddit and any kind of online forum. It would cost him nothing to say "lol Reylo is stupid, there's nothing in TFA that indicates that", just look what he did to Reywalker. And yet he keeps quiet, deflecting the questions.

This is a big deal. It doesn't mean that a romance is coming, but that Rey and Kylo's interactions are relevant.