THE ST, TROS, & TAROT

AhsokaTano wrote:Amazing ! So through coded mythic stories & religion  they are telling us the very story of the universe , the essence of matter and the soul  through archetypes ( Star Wars being an example of this ). As the video above says this is a way of explaining the drama as it unfolds in the universe ( in layman’s terms ) in a language we would understand. Geometry seeks to explain this too and tell the story of universe - one way is the patterns in nature ie lotus flowers being symbols for atoms  which is the very essence of life . The universe wants us to understand it but sometimes the only way we can understand it is by conveying it in a language or symbolism we would relate to in order to understand it. It’s why the story of the cross keeps repeating itself over and over throughout the ages . Wow! Epic stuff!

Lovely_Rose wrote:@spacebaby45678 I really enjoy your tarot interpretations of the characters but I was wondering if you could go into detail about how your readings blend into what we should expect to see from TROS? Also I’m having a little trouble understanding your phrasing, perhaps you could use simpler wording for peasants like me.

Lovely_Rose wrote:Well we can start with Reylo lol. What do the tarots say about how it will progress and end?

spacebaby45678 wrote:Happy Easter everyone! This is Resurrection Sunday    And we know the real reason we are all here!   Kylo Ben Organa Skywalker Solo...    Redemption Bendemtion  I prefer Sacrifice & Resurrection....   Get your tissues ready ladies for TROS... AD is going to kill it.  

"let the past die kill it if you have to that's the only way to become what you were meant to be"
                                                                                         From the wise sayings of Kylo Ren




Well, The Wheel of Fortune Card is here to deliver the GOOD NEWS!   Rey & Kylo each representing two of the Angelic Cherubim (tetramorph) which are symbols for the Four Royal stars. I have not focused much of my attention on Kylo/Ben so today Easter Sunday/Resurrection Sunday  is the right day to give give Ben Solo his due, or predict his future based on his two Stars, Antares & Aldebaran, but mostly Antares which is the star in the heart of the Scorpion. Believe it or not, Star Wars is a modern day telling of the Gospel in the stars. Not exactly like the Bible but it is close enough and the Skywalkers are without a doubt a representation of Jesus the Christ and at times the anti-christ but that is another story for another day. I mean who would have thunk, that GL would actually use "stars" to tell a story about Star Wars    EP9,  The Rise of Skywalker, what does it mean??? Rey is a Skywalker..     #reykenobi... How Scorpio tells the story of Kylo's transformation back to Ben Solo...



Scorpio is associated with three different animals: the scorpion, the snake, and the eagle (or phoenix). The snake and eagle are related to the nearby constellations of Ophiuchus and Aquila  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorpio_(astrology)

The Tarot Card that corresponds or is associated with the Eagle/Phoenix/Scorpion on the Wheel of Fortune Card is the Death Card 13


Upright card (keywords): Endings,  Profound change, Letting go of attachments, Failure, Mortality The exact themes of TLJ...  

Almost all versions of the Death card show a symbol of resurrection or re-birth. This could be the rising sun, an egg, or a sapling sprouting from the body of a dead man. All these symbols show that to progress in life, our old form must die, just as a snake sheds its old skin to reveal a shiny new one. This is the message of the card: Death must be conquered by the regeneration of the soul, and he who knows this shall live forever.

Kylo's original Topps Card was 67.... 6 +7 =13, which gave me that original clue that Star Wars characters matched and had attributes from Tarot.





However,  before we get to, Aquila/Phoenix/ let's go back to Ophiuchus, the constellation that has his foot on the heart of the Scorpion, this is Kylo/Ben being his best self...

Ophiuchus The Serpent Holder (pronounced off-ee-YOO-cuss) represents a man with a snake coiled around his waist. He holds the head of the snake in his left hand and its tail in his right hand. The snake is represented by a separate constellation, Serpens. The Greek spelling of the name was Ὀφιοῦχος (Ophiouchos).Ophiuchus holds a huge snake (SNOKE) , Serpens, in both hands as shown in the Atlas Coelestis of John Flamsteed (1729). Serpens is unique in being divided into two halves. Serpens Caput  





As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of a man [Aquarius], and the face of a lion [Leo], on the right side: and they four had the face of an ox/bull [Taurus] on the left side; they four also had the face of an eagle/phoenix [Scorpio]. (Ezekiel 1 verse 10).



Saint John’s book of the Apocalypse (Revelation 4, v7) also alludes to the vision, of which Fred Gettings, in The Secret Zodiac, writes:

The eagle of St John is the eagle of Scorpio, which sign (alone of all the twelve) has two images, the eagle the symbol of the redeemed and spiritualized Scorpionic nature, the scorpion its fallen, unredeemed and earth-bound nature.

The Eagles Talon's leaves a scar as a sign of resurrection.. there are other heroes and anti-heroes who die and rise... Of course there is Grandpa Anakin
The story of his scar has not been told, just he seems to get one in between AOTC & ROTS... but this scar pre-sages or is symbol of his future resurrection at the end of ROTJ



Jon Snow from GOT is another great example, an eagle attacks him and leaves a scar, he dies and resurrects.





Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows is another great example and shares many motifs with Kylo. Harry's scar left by Voldemort is a clue to his "death" and "Resurrection", both Harry & Kylo are Ophiuchus The Serpent Holder as their main adversaries are Snoke & Voldemort i.e. Serpens.. Harry meets Dumbledore at King's cross station... this is an allusion to the Crucifixion, and of course Dumbledore founded the Order of the Phoenix/Eagle to defeat Voldemort.


The Phoenix is the transformational symbol of Scorpio. Like the Eagle, in ancient times the Phoenix was a symbol of the Sun that was said to live for 500 years. At the end of its life it built a funeral pyre and burned in the flames, only to regenerate its progeny from those very flames.





Kylo, will transcendence from the crawling scorpion to the soaring eagle, still predatory, still conveying the essence of patience and penetration, but capable of flight and height, brings together the theme of destruction and renewal as a story of evolution.



1 Corinthians 15:55-57 King James Version (KJV)
55 O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?



Spacebaby out... I am off to Sunrise service...

AhsokaTano wrote:@spacebaby45678
This is super interesting about Loki being bound by 3 beings ( his 2 sons and a third skathi who maybe a goddess of hunting , winter etc - she has a bow and arrow - Jannah ??? See vanity fair pictures )either by their entrails ( which I don’t think is going to happen ) OR the other version is stuck to a stick or pike ( symbol of cross or impaled with a lightsaber etc ???). All the while his wife Sigyn looks after him and tries to soothe/heal him whilst they do this to him and feed him poison until the end of time when he is let loose .In essence trying to repress Loki. Wow this could have major implications for the plot - either this is how they Destroy the kylo part of Ben ( if he’s possessed by Palpatine spirit as MSW leaks seem to suggest or destroy the darkness in Ben because the dark side acts like a sickness , like a drug and bit by bit they have to draw it out of him ).

Or they could go for a different type of binding and captivity which isn’t really a binding or captivity at all ie marriage. Men traditionally say when get married that they are getting tied down and binding forms a major part of marriage ceremonies ie bride and groom hands being tied together for instance. It could be symbolic ie Loki /kylo being bound by marriage with Rey . And this might be what causes the truce between the resistance and first order and those firework displays we saw in the desert when they were filming in November . It sounds very fan fiction I know but am up for anything now lol!
I wouldn’t have even thought of this non violent way of doing it if it wasn’t for the fact that this morning I was looking up mandalorian weddings and I came across the binding ceremony ( wedding )of the beast ( yep beast /monster though he’s a man and quite kylo like ) lord Oron Kira with Galia of Onderon and it sounds very reylo but what’s interesting is there are 3 Jedi in it who try to prevent the marriage ( it’s that number again that’s in the Loki binding ). It is a legends story though but very interesting.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Binding_Ceremony_of_Oron_Kira_and_Galia

I can only conclude that Lucasfilm have wanted a reylo story for a very long time as similarities between other stories keep coming up again and again . And it’s literally written in the stars as pointed out on this thread . Only this time hopefully it will have a fulfilling happy ending because Kira in this sense is Rey ( king ) and she will tame the Loki ( beast ) side of Kylo/Ben .

AhsokaTano wrote:Ok so I found some more info regarding Sirius and possible fate for Rey and Kylo . First of all it’s our closest star and moving towards our solar system closer and closer so no wonder there is this connection that we descended from there by some peoples and societies on earth but also the following :



So Sirius A and B once upon a time were blue ( Luke and leia were probably the original incarnations of this if you follow the twin suns theory in link above ). Sirius A then remained blue , Sirius B was a red giant but collapsed to a white dwarf after it shed its outer layers ( like a snake shedding its skin - ie kylo becoming Ben ). The colours in Star Wars are deliberate .Sirius A is definitely Rey , Sirius B is kylo. It could mean Ben with a white lightsaber too as well as spiritual or physical( or both ) resurrection/transformation. Gosh it’s the age old story of beauty and the beast too already written in the stars across the universe and transcribed to us in fairy tales and myths . Wow !

SW_Heroine_Journey wrote:A hybrid of sorts for this thread - (I thought of it, when I saw this) - the Reylo Tarot Project  - the artwork is stunning!

Reylo Tarot Project PDF

AhsokaTano wrote:It is indeed a worthy project
@SW_Heroine_Journey and @spacebaby45678 and the art is beautiful as well as informative as to where TROS could lead .

Talking about the hanged man this came up on social media a few weeks ago ( tumblr I think it was ) and it just goes to show that Luke’s sacrifice was already foretold as far back as Empire strikes back because Luke does indeed hang like this in bespin city waiting for Leia to rescue him . Is this another form of foreshadowing only in TROS it will be Rey taking it one step further by rescuing Ben from death ?

The other thing I wanted to mention and not sure if this is the right place but since we’ve been talking about Rey being the king and associated( like Kenobi) with Leo it just got me thinking about “ Cristo Rey “ ( Spanish for Christ the King ) and of course Rey being in that title and how Jesus too is associated with the tree of life ( and so are Adam and Eve ). This is where my mind went one step further ( apologies I don’t mean to offend anyone ) and remembered the hymn about Jesus being nailed to a tree ( were you there when they nailed him to a tree). So what does this mean in terms of Rey and Kylo ? Maybe they are going to die together nailed to a force tree as both kings ( They are both associated with alpha animals - cats ie lions and dogs ie wolves through the constellations of Leo and Sirius). And their dying leads to life and peace just like in Romeo and Juliet where their deaths lead to truce and peace . Or they are going to sleep together and create life that way( because they are the tree of life when “ nailed “ together in physical Union as well as spiritual Union ) and it leads to peace ( because they create life ie a new star child, a new Jedi ) - the death might be literal or symbolic ( ie taking virginity is symbolically called “ a death “ and which is why it pervades vampire stories and death and the maiden tropes ) .Or maybe it means there will be death and destruction caused by both sides which kylo and Rey represent but they will come to a truce and new beginnings - either they will come to terms about this or maybe a child created will coerce them into this ?

So what made me think of the above - it was seeing Boba fett’s phallic slave one ship lol because someone has recreated it online using string art and now I cannot unsee that it looks like something else inside something else lol! It’s sexual
but also a religious symbol at the same time - and it’s an ancient symbol of cosmic creation in the heavens (as well as sexual ) being the same as on earth but on a larger scale .

https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/comments/cbk1cz/slave1_string_art/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app

But it also looks like the cross too . And Kylo’s crossguard saber too has the same ambiguous symbolism ( sexual and religious). So question is is Star Wars going to go down the Christian route of making the cross something sorrowful ? Or celebratory route of taking its ancient symbolism of fertility ? Or maybe it’s going to tap into both meanings ? Sorrow and pain and then joy and celebration.