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Who dropped Rey off on Jakku?
I personally think it's a character we haven't been introduced to yet, her father maybe. (see: Pablo Hidalgo's tweets, he said it was a man's voice) | Could still be a pirate but they're not known for their tenderness... ("sweetheart")
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After PH tweet I'm thinking it's either father or could even be brother/ other relation.
I know there are some theories that she comes from the dark side, in which case could it be somebody that saved her from her relations? An adopted parent? I mean "sweetheart" is a very telling word, I think only a person with a real affection for a child would say it.
I know there are some theories that she comes from the dark side, in which case could it be somebody that saved her from her relations? An adopted parent? I mean "sweetheart" is a very telling word, I think only a person with a real affection for a child would say it.
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I also think it's someone we haven't met yet.
I feel like all of the "evidence" points to Rey Kenobi, but my gut feeling is that she has Dark Side origins somewhere, and I'm guessing that her being dropped off is tied to that. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the big twist/traumatic reveal of her origins is that her parents were on the run from the New Republic.
I feel like all of the "evidence" points to Rey Kenobi, but my gut feeling is that she has Dark Side origins somewhere, and I'm guessing that her being dropped off is tied to that. I wouldn't be at all surprised if the big twist/traumatic reveal of her origins is that her parents were on the run from the New Republic.
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Re: Who dropped Rey off on Jakku?
My money is on a certain gambler, as I said in Rey lineage thread.
A gambler who desperately needed money, sold a child to Unkur. Cruel thing to do but possible in world of gambling obsession and SW universe.
And Luke is looking for him in a space casino (if the leaks by MSW are legit)
A gambler who desperately needed money, sold a child to Unkur. Cruel thing to do but possible in world of gambling obsession and SW universe.
And Luke is looking for him in a space casino (if the leaks by MSW are legit)
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I definitely think it's someone close to her, either her father or maybe an uncle. It has been suggested before that Snoke might be tied to her background somehow and he might have been after her in the same way he was with Ben. Perhaps her parents hid her for this reason and then got killed. I'm still rooting for Rey Kenobi even with that background storyline - Snoke was aware of her heritage.
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Re: Who dropped Rey off on Jakku?
i definitely think she was left on Jakku by a heretofore unknown character and done so to protect her. i also think it wasn't meant to be permanent. the person or persons were intending to come back for her but were killed, leaving her stranded there.
Re: Who dropped Rey off on Jakku?
I'm expecting a big plot twist about her parents, I have a gut feeling. Maybe they'll never come back means that they don't want to get her back. So yeah, my money are on living parents
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So I just saw this meta/theory on tumblr http://littlebird92.tumblr.com/post/142825045889/reylo-is-my-halo-bonkai-diaries
And am wondering if there's something to this...has Pablo effectively debunked the possibility of it being Ben who left her in the wake of the massacre? I seem to remember him saying the events were actually years apart and therefore unrelated...but the idea of Kylo having saved Rey's life when she was young is very interesting.
And am wondering if there's something to this...has Pablo effectively debunked the possibility of it being Ben who left her in the wake of the massacre? I seem to remember him saying the events were actually years apart and therefore unrelated...but the idea of Kylo having saved Rey's life when she was young is very interesting.
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@BastilaBey,as far as I know he hasn't debunked that just that they were separate events.Simeine asked him if Kylo knows Rey's name and he answered with "Why should he?" which is vague as it could be taken that he hasn't net her before or maybe he knew her but by a different name.
I know Maz's speech seems to debunk the theory that Kylo left her but I can see them going with the explanation that Rey's parents are indeed never coming back to vebthough Ben was the one who left her on Jakku because from Rey's POV she's waited no for her family to return.Then there's Pablo's tweet about Rey's memory being unreliable.If Ben left her on Jakku is it possible she built that belief that her family would form back for her as a way to cope with Ben abandoning her and possibly becoming Kylo Ren later on?Rey also seems to contradict herself as well(or maybe it's the author contracting each other,IDKIn the Survial Guide she says. She never knew her parents yet she also claims she's waiting fir them come back.If she never knew them how does she know they aren't dead and why does she seem to recognize her father's voice in the vision(if we take it's her father who's talking to her)
I know this might seem contrived but I feel like there's more to Kylo's resentment towards Han than we're led to believe which I think Pablo also said in a tweet by mentioning Kylo being dissapounted of him.Maybe it has something to do with Rey being left on Jakku.
I don't know what Kylo leaving Rey in Jakku could mean for the progression of their relationship since her life there was absolutely awful yet there's also a connection the authors make between Rey being left on Jakku and Kylo.In the adult novalazation we have Rey saying she's seen Kylo in a daydream and a nightmare and in the junior one we have her recognizing him without able to explain how and in both versions the male voice Rey hears is somewhat connected with Kylo the junior novelization making it more clear that she's having visions filled with Kylo Ren in them when she hears the vice that is described as both familiar and strange which is a really weird discription I mean how can a voice be both familiar and strange?And in the movie we have young Rey saying "Come back" right after we see vision Kylo walking towards Rey.They could have out the vision of her seeing her younger self right after Baspin or after seeing Luke but they choose to do it after the rain scene.Why?
I think it's more likely that Kylo has had dreams of her but I'm not discharging that theory completely since it has the potential to change their relationship in either a positive or a negative way.
I know Maz's speech seems to debunk the theory that Kylo left her but I can see them going with the explanation that Rey's parents are indeed never coming back to vebthough Ben was the one who left her on Jakku because from Rey's POV she's waited no for her family to return.Then there's Pablo's tweet about Rey's memory being unreliable.If Ben left her on Jakku is it possible she built that belief that her family would form back for her as a way to cope with Ben abandoning her and possibly becoming Kylo Ren later on?Rey also seems to contradict herself as well(or maybe it's the author contracting each other,IDKIn the Survial Guide she says. She never knew her parents yet she also claims she's waiting fir them come back.If she never knew them how does she know they aren't dead and why does she seem to recognize her father's voice in the vision(if we take it's her father who's talking to her)
I know this might seem contrived but I feel like there's more to Kylo's resentment towards Han than we're led to believe which I think Pablo also said in a tweet by mentioning Kylo being dissapounted of him.Maybe it has something to do with Rey being left on Jakku.
I don't know what Kylo leaving Rey in Jakku could mean for the progression of their relationship since her life there was absolutely awful yet there's also a connection the authors make between Rey being left on Jakku and Kylo.In the adult novalazation we have Rey saying she's seen Kylo in a daydream and a nightmare and in the junior one we have her recognizing him without able to explain how and in both versions the male voice Rey hears is somewhat connected with Kylo the junior novelization making it more clear that she's having visions filled with Kylo Ren in them when she hears the vice that is described as both familiar and strange which is a really weird discription I mean how can a voice be both familiar and strange?And in the movie we have young Rey saying "Come back" right after we see vision Kylo walking towards Rey.They could have out the vision of her seeing her younger self right after Baspin or after seeing Luke but they choose to do it after the rain scene.Why?
I think it's more likely that Kylo has had dreams of her but I'm not discharging that theory completely since it has the potential to change their relationship in either a positive or a negative way.
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I'm inclined to think that Rey seems familiar to Kylo because he's had visions or dreams of her.
But...I could see a scenario where Han and a teenage Ben (just along for the ride with his dad, before he turned) smuggled Rey away from a dangerous situation involving her family, and left her with Unkar with the understanding that her family was supposed to rendezvous there at a later date but never made it. That would insert Han/Ben as middlemen without really placing the blame on them for her being stuck there for 15 years.
But...I could see a scenario where Han and a teenage Ben (just along for the ride with his dad, before he turned) smuggled Rey away from a dangerous situation involving her family, and left her with Unkar with the understanding that her family was supposed to rendezvous there at a later date but never made it. That would insert Han/Ben as middlemen without really placing the blame on them for her being stuck there for 15 years.
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No one...it's her home planet...she was born/created there...and left behind....I don't think any one dropped here there from anyplace else...
Also...I am having trouble imagining her parrents doing so...what kind of people would do that abandon their child....and what does family means....why not say specifically I am waiting for my mother/father/uncle....family is awfully vague....doesn't necessarily imply blood connection...
I think Lor San Tekka has done something to her family...whatever
Kylo has never met Rey before...except in his head
Also...I am having trouble imagining her parrents doing so...what kind of people would do that abandon their child....and what does family means....why not say specifically I am waiting for my mother/father/uncle....family is awfully vague....doesn't necessarily imply blood connection...
I think Lor San Tekka has done something to her family...whatever
Kylo has never met Rey before...except in his head
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Re: Who dropped Rey off on Jakku?
Okay, hear me out. I don't think it was Kylo Ren who saved her, but I think they might have been in the academy together for some time.
So, Luke's academy is in its prime, but the fact that he was the only Jedi made him take on numerous padawans, and, maybe, he was a bit hasty in letting the older ones teach others or look for force sensitives. So, maybe one of the Jedis (not following the code, maybe he'd turn later) went on a mission to get veery force sensitive Rey to the academy, but her parents didn't want that, so... he mind tricked them into doing that. And when he got a word about the upcoming massacre, he left her on Jakku to be safe for the time cause he kinda liked her and hoped she'd be his apprentice in future. He left to fight the Jedi.... but died in battle and never came back.
He didn't tell anybody where she is, her parents didn't remember her... and so she became a Scavenger.
So, Luke's academy is in its prime, but the fact that he was the only Jedi made him take on numerous padawans, and, maybe, he was a bit hasty in letting the older ones teach others or look for force sensitives. So, maybe one of the Jedis (not following the code, maybe he'd turn later) went on a mission to get veery force sensitive Rey to the academy, but her parents didn't want that, so... he mind tricked them into doing that. And when he got a word about the upcoming massacre, he left her on Jakku to be safe for the time cause he kinda liked her and hoped she'd be his apprentice in future. He left to fight the Jedi.... but died in battle and never came back.
He didn't tell anybody where she is, her parents didn't remember her... and so she became a Scavenger.
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@AiremynAiremyn wrote:I definitely think it's someone close to her, either her father or maybe an uncle. It has been suggested before that Snoke might be tied to her background somehow and he might have been after her in the same way he was with Ben. Perhaps her parents hid her for this reason and then got killed. I'm still rooting for Rey Kenobi even with that background storyline - Snoke was aware of her heritage.
What @Airemyn said
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I have no solid evidence, but I actually do feel it may well have been Kylo. He is just angry at losing the droid when he goes to town on the consoles; but it's not until 'a girl/what girl' is mentioned that he ends up grabbing the officer by the throat. Almost as if he has a reason for a strange girl being involved to change everything and make him start suspecting something.
That said, it is a thin theory. He could just be playing coy, but he doesn't seem to show any actual recognition when they feet.
That said, it is a thin theory. He could just be playing coy, but he doesn't seem to show any actual recognition when they feet.
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@AlixenAlixen wrote:I have no solid evidence, but I actually do feel it may well have been Kylo. He is just angry at losing the droid when he goes to town on the consoles; but it's not until 'a girl/what girl' is mentioned that he ends up grabbing the officer by the throat. Almost as if he has a reason for a strange girl being involved to change everything and make him start suspecting something.
That said, it is a thin theory. He could just be playing coy, but he doesn't seem to show any actual recognition when they feet.
Yeah, he seems to know her, but doesn't. That's why a lot of us have the theory that he has had some kind of vision of her. That lightsaber she touched might very well have been his. Kylo actually doesn't really lie. Only to Snoke. And perhaps at some point he had a vision, whether connected with the lightsaber or not, similar to hers where she appeared to him masked, like she is at the beginning of the movie.
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@AlixenAlixen wrote:I have no solid evidence, but I actually do feel it may well have been Kylo. He is just angry at losing the droid when he goes to town on the consoles; but it's not until 'a girl/what girl' is mentioned that he ends up grabbing the officer by the throat. Almost as if he has a reason for a strange girl being involved to change everything and make him start suspecting something.
That said, it is a thin theory. He could just be playing coy, but he doesn't seem to show any actual recognition when they feet.
I personally don't think it's Kylo, because when we see Rey's younger self she has the exact same three bun hairstyle she wears as an adult. Presumably she's kept the same hairstyle so her family recognises her. If Kylo was the one to drop her off, he would've recognised her straight away in that forest - it would've been way too much of a coincidence that the woman in front of him, who would be around the same age, has the same colouring and skin colour and same hairstyle and escaped the same planet he left the little girl on to be a different person. But instead, he doesn't seem to recognise her, the line "The girl I've heard so much about" stresses this imo. Also he doesn't know her name, or if he does, never mentions it. This is why I don't think he left her on Jakku.
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@AppleCrumble122AppleCrumble122 wrote:@AlixenAlixen wrote:I have no solid evidence, but I actually do feel it may well have been Kylo. He is just angry at losing the droid when he goes to town on the consoles; but it's not until 'a girl/what girl' is mentioned that he ends up grabbing the officer by the throat. Almost as if he has a reason for a strange girl being involved to change everything and make him start suspecting something.
That said, it is a thin theory. He could just be playing coy, but he doesn't seem to show any actual recognition when they feet.
I personally don't think it's Kylo, because when we see Rey's younger self she has the exact same three bun hairstyle she wears as an adult. Presumably she's kept the same hairstyle so her family recognises her. If Kylo was the one to drop her off, he would've recognised her straight away in that forest - it would've been way too much of a coincidence that the woman in front of him, who would be around the same age, has the same colouring and skin colour and same hairstyle and escaped the same planet he left the little girl on to be a different person. But instead, he doesn't seem to recognise her, the line "The girl I've heard so much about" stresses this imo. Also he doesn't know her name, or if he does, never mentions it. This is why I don't think he left her on Jakku.
I don't think he left her there because Kylo doesn't know her and it doesn't fit with the timeline at all. Luke and Kylo were off doing their own thing when Rey was already on Jakku. Kylo would have been too young at the time. I guess we'll wait and see but IMO Kylo was not involved. It would just be extremely convoluted because Kylo's backstory seems like it'll focus on his family and Snoke.
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@FrolickingFizzgigFrolickingFizzgig wrote:@AppleCrumble122AppleCrumble122 wrote:@AlixenAlixen wrote:I have no solid evidence, but I actually do feel it may well have been Kylo. He is just angry at losing the droid when he goes to town on the consoles; but it's not until 'a girl/what girl' is mentioned that he ends up grabbing the officer by the throat. Almost as if he has a reason for a strange girl being involved to change everything and make him start suspecting something.
That said, it is a thin theory. He could just be playing coy, but he doesn't seem to show any actual recognition when they feet.
I personally don't think it's Kylo, because when we see Rey's younger self she has the exact same three bun hairstyle she wears as an adult. Presumably she's kept the same hairstyle so her family recognises her. If Kylo was the one to drop her off, he would've recognised her straight away in that forest - it would've been way too much of a coincidence that the woman in front of him, who would be around the same age, has the same colouring and skin colour and same hairstyle and escaped the same planet he left the little girl on to be a different person. But instead, he doesn't seem to recognise her, the line "The girl I've heard so much about" stresses this imo. Also he doesn't know her name, or if he does, never mentions it. This is why I don't think he left her on Jakku.
I don't think he left her there because Kylo doesn't know her and it doesn't fit with the timeline at all. Luke and Kylo were off doing their own thing when Rey was already on Jakku. Kylo would have been too young at the time. I guess we'll wait and see but IMO Kylo was not involved. It would just be extremely convoluted because Kylo's backstory seems like it'll focus on his family and Snoke.
That too.
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Re: Who dropped Rey off on Jakku?
Option 1- an as**ole
Option 2- someone desperate because his/her daughter could be in danger
Option 2- someone desperate because his/her daughter could be in danger
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Re: Who dropped Rey off on Jakku?
My conclusion after seeing the movie the first time and which hasn't changed is:
1) She was left behind by a parent, probably father given her eagerness to latch on to Han, who was on the run with her and in a desperate position. Parent thought that they could outrun/outwit somebody and then return to pick her up. Instead they were killed and her short wait at Unkar Plutt's daycare center turned into 15 years of indentured servitude and near-starvation.
2) Pursuit was by affiliates of Snoke, possibly trying to get hands on her because she was very young and FS. At that point he'd been working on Ben, but not able to crack him quite yet. Probably figured out that a 5 year old would be easier to manipulate.
3) Parent who left her behind closed off her family/identity related memories and FS abilities using own powerful FS abilities in case she was captured, in order to hide her in plain site as an ordinary child. Also planted the "wait here for me" memory to keep her put and safe.
4) KR/Ben inadvertantly knocked down at least some of the barriers, to her abilities, during the interrogation scene.
5) They never met before Takodana. Although posters on here have done a good job of making a case for him having parallel visions/dreams of her, hence his freak-out on Mitaka.
6) Mr. "I have access to the Imperial Archives" will probably be involved in finding out who she is. It's possible if they go to the trouble of mentioning archives/record keeping (which seems to be a thing in this galaxy), somebody found out about her family in trying to access birth or other records about people descended from well known FS users. Could also tie into the Kenobi theory if it turned out that one of her parents was a descendant or relative trying to hide in plain sight by keeping powers on the D/L.
1) She was left behind by a parent, probably father given her eagerness to latch on to Han, who was on the run with her and in a desperate position. Parent thought that they could outrun/outwit somebody and then return to pick her up. Instead they were killed and her short wait at Unkar Plutt's daycare center turned into 15 years of indentured servitude and near-starvation.
2) Pursuit was by affiliates of Snoke, possibly trying to get hands on her because she was very young and FS. At that point he'd been working on Ben, but not able to crack him quite yet. Probably figured out that a 5 year old would be easier to manipulate.
3) Parent who left her behind closed off her family/identity related memories and FS abilities using own powerful FS abilities in case she was captured, in order to hide her in plain site as an ordinary child. Also planted the "wait here for me" memory to keep her put and safe.
4) KR/Ben inadvertantly knocked down at least some of the barriers, to her abilities, during the interrogation scene.
5) They never met before Takodana. Although posters on here have done a good job of making a case for him having parallel visions/dreams of her, hence his freak-out on Mitaka.
6) Mr. "I have access to the Imperial Archives" will probably be involved in finding out who she is. It's possible if they go to the trouble of mentioning archives/record keeping (which seems to be a thing in this galaxy), somebody found out about her family in trying to access birth or other records about people descended from well known FS users. Could also tie into the Kenobi theory if it turned out that one of her parents was a descendant or relative trying to hide in plain sight by keeping powers on the D/L.
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Re: Who dropped Rey off on Jakku?
Her bodyguard, or "guardian" not an actual parent. A parent would never do that.
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Re: Who dropped Rey off on Jakku?
Snow White situation
Her parents may have been killed by a rivalry and that rival order someone to take Rey away and kill her but the assassin could not bear to kill a child so he/she decide to leave the children on a far away, deserted planet of Jakku knowing that no body would search for her there. Even Han did not bother to check Jakku for his MF. And to tie up, one of her parent could be the secret son/daughter of Obi wan or Palpatine or other choices
And later, if Rey is looking for her parents that rival may acted as her family or even parent just to waiting for a choice to kill her but Rey discovered the truth and kill that person in anger, tampered with the Dark side, again
Her parents may have been killed by a rivalry and that rival order someone to take Rey away and kill her but the assassin could not bear to kill a child so he/she decide to leave the children on a far away, deserted planet of Jakku knowing that no body would search for her there. Even Han did not bother to check Jakku for his MF. And to tie up, one of her parent could be the secret son/daughter of Obi wan or Palpatine or other choices
And later, if Rey is looking for her parents that rival may acted as her family or even parent just to waiting for a choice to kill her but Rey discovered the truth and kill that person in anger, tampered with the Dark side, again
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@AlixenAlixen wrote:I have no solid evidence, but I actually do feel it may well have been Kylo. He is just angry at losing the droid when he goes to town on the consoles; but it's not until 'a girl/what girl' is mentioned that he ends up grabbing the officer by the throat. Almost as if he has a reason for a strange girl being involved to change everything and make him start suspecting something.
That said, it is a thin theory. He could just be playing coy, but he doesn't seem to show any actual recognition when they feet.
Hi, welcome to the forum.
I do find his reaction to "what girl" rather interesting. Hence the name. It makes me wonder how he might know Rey. If not from an actual previous meeting, then perhaps in visions? I agree with you that he doesn't appear to recognize her, at first. He senses something about her, but isn't sure what it is. At the end, in the script and novelization, he says "it is you" when she summons the lightsaber, and it gives Rey the feeling that he knows something about her, more than she realizes. I haven't finished reading Bloodline yet, but apparently Rey has already been on Jakku for a while when Ben is still training with Luke at age 23. Her situation is... very mysterious. Lol. What circumstances do you suppose would cause Kylo to leave Rey on Jakku, if it was him?
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I have this weird feeling that Boba Fett (or some other bounty hunter) dropped Rey on Jakku....someone hired him to kill Rey and her family but he couldn't kill a little girl so he dumped her on Jakku with Unkar, hoping she would be forgotten.
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@""Guest wrote:No one...it's her home planet...she was born/created there...and left behind....I don't think any one dropped here there from anyplace else...
Also...I am having trouble imagining her parrents doing so...what kind of people would do that abandon their child....and what does family means....why not say specifically I am waiting for my mother/father/uncle....family is awfully vague....doesn't necessarily imply blood connection...
I think Lor San Tekka has done something to her family...whatever
Kylo has never met Rey before...except in his head
^^^All of this my dear guest (join the party! Register here! We have cookies). She is born on Jakku.
Not so sure about Lor San Tekka. Kylo holded a personal grudge against him, it's obvious, but I think that it's something not related to Rey but to his uncle Luke, and the not-academy problem, and the turning dark of Ben.
And yes: lots of vision of the girl from Ben's part. (What girl?)
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