Discussion: Rian Johnson at the Helm of a New Star Wars Trilogy

SheLitAFire wrote:

IoJovi wrote:

SheLitAFire wrote:Honestly, if it's not about the Skywalkers then I'm not incredibly invested. I'll probably see them (and who knows, maybe I'll be over the moon and all about them lol), but like Rogue One, which I only saw once, I don't foresee myself caring as much.

It's the same for me and Harry Potter. Original story line=all about that....Fantastic Beasts (meh, ok, but not as invested)

@SheLitAFire

My Reylo reaching a** thinks it *could* be a technicality where Rey and Ben’s kids won’t carry the name Skywalker- they’ll carry the name Solo, or something else.

Of course the creators wouldn’t tell us that now, as it’d be a huge spoiler. Anyways, I’m not trying to get my hopes up, but I’d be lying if I said this weren’t in the back of my head....

@IoJovi

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I totally assumed it was going to be set before the PT or something. But you may be onto something........

SheLitAFire wrote:Honestly, if it's not about the Skywalkers then I'm not incredibly invested. I'll probably see them (and who knows, maybe I'll be over the moon and all about them lol), but like Rogue One, which I only saw once, I don't foresee myself caring as much.

It's the same for me and Harry Potter. Original story line=all about that....Fantastic Beasts (meh, ok, but not as invested)

And I kind of threw out there, like the most interesting thing to me would be to tell a new story told over three movies where we go someplace else. And we go, kind of the potential of like a wide-open blue sky of, let’s go to a different part of the galaxy. Maybe a different time. I don’t know.
Let’s meet some new characters and let’s figure out what Star Wars means separated from some of the iconography that we’ve associated it with. Let’s take it someplace else and see what that would be like. That just seemed like a really interesting question to ask.”

Johnson was even questioned about whether this new trilogy could bring back Jar Jar Binks, which he didn't rule out.

"I would be down with bringing old Jar Jar back — we'll see," he joked.

her acclaimed work on the Hulu drama led to a meeting with Star Wars gatekeeper Kathleen Kennedy about, um, something.
"I guess she was watching with her daughter and then called people and was like, 'Who's this Reed person?' She probably thought I was a guy because of my name," says Morano of her two-and-a-half-hour sit-down with the Lucasfilm president. "She's amazing. We're talking about adventure movies, and I'm not even remembering that she produced Goonies. Any movie that I put my finger on that I loved when I was growing up was a movie that she produced. Anyway, it was a great meeting. Obviously, I can't say anything about what else we were talking about."

MrsWindu wrote:There isn’t a general thread for rumours of potential directors of future SW films so I’m going to stick this in here - moderators pls move if needed. I very much enjoyed the Handmaids Tale in all its harshness but thoughtfully imagined version. I’m taking this with a large pinch of salt mind.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/is-reed-morano-next-star-wars-director-1075060

her acclaimed work on the Hulu drama led to a meeting with Star Wars gatekeeper Kathleen Kennedy about, um, something.
"I guess she was watching with her daughter and then called people and was like, 'Who's this Reed person?' She probably thought I was a guy because of my name," says Morano of her two-and-a-half-hour sit-down with the Lucasfilm president. "She's amazing. We're talking about adventure movies, and I'm not even remembering that she produced Goonies. Any movie that I put my finger on that I loved when I was growing up was a movie that she produced. Anyway, it was a great meeting. Obviously, I can't say anything about what else we were talking about."

SheLitAFire wrote:

MrsWindu wrote:There isn’t a general thread for rumours of potential directors of future SW films so I’m going to stick this in here - moderators pls move if needed. I very much enjoyed the Handmaids Tale in all its harshness but thoughtfully imagined version. I’m taking this with a large pinch of salt mind.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/is-reed-morano-next-star-wars-director-1075060

her acclaimed work on the Hulu drama led to a meeting with Star Wars gatekeeper Kathleen Kennedy about, um, something.
"I guess she was watching with her daughter and then called people and was like, 'Who's this Reed person?' She probably thought I was a guy because of my name," says Morano of her two-and-a-half-hour sit-down with the Lucasfilm president. "She's amazing. We're talking about adventure movies, and I'm not even remembering that she produced Goonies. Any movie that I put my finger on that I loved when I was growing up was a movie that she produced. Anyway, it was a great meeting. Obviously, I can't say anything about what else we were talking about."

@MrsWindu

Huh, interesting. So Rian would write the new SW films but someone else would potentially direct them? I just always assumed he'd do both, but that's a lot of work so I can see that they may be looking for future directors. ::cough cough:: Ava Duvernay and Patty Jenkins

Armitage, 2018 wrote: The director [RJ] is still in the early stages of planning those movies, but he revealed to Digital Spy how he is approaching a story separate from the Skywalker clan.

"I'm looking at everything right now," he [RJ] said when we asked what parts of Star Wars lore he might be drawing from. "I'm honestly just in this very nice 'OK, what is this thing going to be?' phase. ... Really, the only goal I have is to think about how Star Wars made me feel as a kid. And that's it. I'm trying to capture: what is that, if it's not iconography that we recognise, necessarily, from the original trilogy? What captures that spirit? What can be that for a kid who's never heard of Star Wars?.... It's getting back to the very fundamental questions of what makes this what it is."
Source: http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/news/a853821/rian-johnson-star-wars-trilogy-plans-approach/

DeeBee wrote:Hiya, just came across an interview with RJ dated 3 April - related to his new trilogy... thought I'd share RJ quotes here about his new trilogy.

Armitage, 2018 wrote: The director [RJ] is still in the early stages of planning those movies, but he revealed to Digital Spy how he is approaching a story separate from the Skywalker clan.

"I'm looking at everything right now," he [RJ] said when we asked what parts of Star Wars lore he might be drawing from. "I'm honestly just in this very nice 'OK, what is this thing going to be?' phase. ... Really, the only goal I have is to think about how Star Wars made me feel as a kid. And that's it. I'm trying to capture: what is that, if it's not iconography that we recognise, necessarily, from the original trilogy? What captures that spirit? What can be that for a kid who's never heard of Star Wars?.... It's getting back to the very fundamental questions of what makes this what it is."
Source: http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/news/a853821/rian-johnson-star-wars-trilogy-plans-approach/

-the article's author Hugh Armitage, says RJ is looking at a story separate to the Skywalker clan?
RJ doesn't say anything about the Skywalker clan. Have we received any other information about it yet?
To me, these RJ quotes don't tell me if the trilogy will be pre TPM or post IX, or somewhere in between... However - I'm really glad to hear RJ talking about the spirit of star wars and it's fundamentals! so I thought I'd pass this on! bye!

SheLitAFire wrote:

MrsWindu wrote:There isn’t a general thread for rumours of potential directors of future SW films so I’m going to stick this in here - moderators pls move if needed. I very much enjoyed the Handmaids Tale in all its harshness but thoughtfully imagined version. I’m taking this with a large pinch of salt mind.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/is-reed-morano-next-star-wars-director-1075060

her acclaimed work on the Hulu drama led to a meeting with Star Wars gatekeeper Kathleen Kennedy about, um, something.
"I guess she was watching with her daughter and then called people and was like, 'Who's this Reed person?' She probably thought I was a guy because of my name," says Morano of her two-and-a-half-hour sit-down with the Lucasfilm president. "She's amazing. We're talking about adventure movies, and I'm not even remembering that she produced Goonies. Any movie that I put my finger on that I loved when I was growing up was a movie that she produced. Anyway, it was a great meeting. Obviously, I can't say anything about what else we were talking about."

@MrsWindu

Huh, interesting. So Rian would write the new SW films but someone else would potentially direct them? I just always assumed he'd do both, but that's a lot of work so I can see that they may be looking for future directors. ::cough cough:: Ava Duvernay and Patty Jenkins

"Once you get past the things that are the iconography of Star Wars, once you say, okay, if it doesn't have the Falcon; if it doesn't have someone with Skywalker as their last name; if we don't go to Tatooine, what is it? What is it at its essence? It's a really exciting question, and I think it's something that has to be answered at some point. So let's figure it out."

Does it really need to be answered, though? Star Wars fans like their already in-place Star Wars elements best in these newer films, and many simply balk at the main cast of new characters calling them straight up terrible. Fans like the familiar. And it was the unfamiliar that had so many turning on The Last Jedi. That's where the standalone movies come into play. They actually tie into existing Star Wars lore.....

So, Rian Johnson's intrinsic problem is losing all the stuff that makes Star Wars feel like Star Wars, which is essentially the characters and their story. So he's going to have to come up with some quite compelling leads. And they cant just be carbon copies of the Jedi, the Princess and the Rogue. It's going to be quite interesting to watch as he tries and pulls this rabbit out of his hat

MrsWindu wrote:@DeeBee

I saw a continuation of that interview ( I think) in another article when Rian went on to say:

"Once you get past the things that are the iconography of Star Wars, once you say, okay, if it doesn't have the Falcon; if it doesn't have someone with Skywalker as their last name; if we don't go to Tatooine, what is it? What is it at its essence? It's a really exciting question, and I think it's something that has to be answered at some point. So let's figure it out."

I'm NOT sure I agree with how the rest of the article went...give the guy a chance please.

Does it really need to be answered, though? Star Wars fans like their already in-place Star Wars elements best in these newer films, and many simply balk at the main cast of new characters calling them straight up terrible. Fans like the familiar. And it was the unfamiliar that had so many turning on The Last Jedi. That's where the standalone movies come into play. They actually tie into existing Star Wars lore.....

So, Rian Johnson's intrinsic problem is losing all the stuff that makes Star Wars feel like Star Wars, which is essentially the characters and their story. So he's going to have to come up with some quite compelling leads. And they cant just be carbon copies of the Jedi, the Princess and the Rogue. It's going to be quite interesting to watch as he tries and pulls this rabbit out of his hat

https://movieweb.com/star-wars-10-new-trilogy-rian-johnson-biggest-challenge/

Orange, 2018 wrote:
[RJ said:] "We're just at the very beginning of figuring out what this new thing is going to be, but part of the excitement of it is really trying to hone in on 'what is Star Wars?' What was Star Wars for me the very first time I saw it when I was a little kid? What are the combination of elements that just made me want to jump into the screen, and made me want to go home and instantly start telling my own stories?"
What is that, indeed? Most Star Wars fans would answer the characters, ships and aliens that make up this world coupled with a compelling space opera about a family we've come to know and love over the course of 9 movies. There have been a lot of Star Wars rip-offs over the years, and none of them ever got it right. And if done wrong, this could definitely just feel like Battle Beyond the Stars. It's a guy without a plan forced to create something out of nothing instead of pulling from a true creative place. That usually renders very mixed results.

Couch, 2017 wrote: Now conjuring a new Star Wars trilogy, the duo isn't yet unconcerned about its place in the franchise timeline. “I’m thinking of, what’s the story going to be, who is it going to follow?” Johnson says. “I’m excited by the potential.”

What have you learned on The Last Jedi that will help you going forward with the new trilogy?

Rian Johnson: There were so many things that were new to me, in terms of process with this. Everything from working with pre-vis for the first time to working with the heads of departments. It was a smooth process. It felt oddly comfortable, but a lot of it was new, so there was a learning curve. It will be nice coming into the next one, knowing a little bit better how a machine this big works. It was such an unknown to me, whether the size of this and the scope of it would make it a different thing than I previously knew how to do. Now that I know that's not the case, I feel like I can come into it a little bit more without the trepidation of, "Am I going to know how to do this?" Which feels good.

Are you going to to take any time off once the launch of this movie is out of the way, or do you know when you're going to hunker down and focus on this full time?

Johnson: We're going to figure out the timing of the next one. We haven't figured it out yet. I'll say, I don't feel like, "Oh my God, I'm exhausted, I need to sit on a beach for a month." I feel creatively energized right now. I feel like I want to jump right into work. This whole process has left me feeling ready to jump in and do it again right away. I don't know why. I don't know if that's a good sign.

Ram Bergman: Also, on most of big movies, you work and you deliver the movie literally last minute. We pretty much finished the movie in early August, so we've not been working really hard, except doing press here and there. We had the luxury of delivering the movie a few months earlier than usual.

Have you given thought to where in the Star Wars timeline this trilogy will fit? For instance, would it takes place before the Skywalker Saga or after?

Johnson: I'm at the very beginning of trying to come up with it, and honestly, timeline-wise, I'm not sure yet. In a way it's interesting, but in a way it's the least interesting part of it to me. I'm more thinking of what's the story going to be, who is it going to follow? What elements is it going to have? What kind of drama is in it? My head right now is more in that place. I haven't really, really gotten into it. Right now I'm mostly excited by the potential and just starting to form little clusters of ideas of what it might become.

You’re working on three new “Star Wars” movies. What can you reveal about them?

It’s a completely new trilogy that writer-director Rian Johnson, my partner, is going to create. It’s all new characters. Everything is new.

What’s the plan for releasing the first one?

I can’t tell you because we don’t know yet. Maybe in two years; it’s just in the early stages.

“It’s a completely new trilogy that writer-director Rian Johnson, my partner, is going to create. It’s all new characters. Everything is new.”

And when can we expect these brand new films? Bergman didn’t have an exact date, but he estimated that we could see the first movie by 2020:

“I can’t tell you because we don’t know yet. Maybe in two years; it’s just in the early stages.”

ISeeAnIsland wrote:Sounds like the first movie from Rian's new trilogy might come a little earlier than we all were thinking:

http://www.slashfilm.com/rian-johnson-star-wars-trilogy-release/

“It’s a completely new trilogy that writer-director Rian Johnson, my partner, is going to create. It’s all new characters. Everything is new.”

And when can we expect these brand new films? Bergman didn’t have an exact date, but he estimated that we could see the first movie by 2020:

“I can’t tell you because we don’t know yet. Maybe in two years; it’s just in the early stages.”

ISeeAnIsland wrote:Sounds like the first movie from Rian's new trilogy might come a little earlier than we all were thinking:

http://www.slashfilm.com/rian-johnson-star-wars-trilogy-release/

“It’s a completely new trilogy that writer-director Rian Johnson, my partner, is going to create. It’s all new characters. Everything is new.”

And when can we expect these brand new films? Bergman didn’t have an exact date, but he estimated that we could see the first movie by 2020:

“I can’t tell you because we don’t know yet. Maybe in two years; it’s just in the early stages.”

LadyGaufrette wrote:Musical clip directed by Rian.


Maybe I'm seeing thing, but the beginning reminded me of this,

It's from 'The Garden of Words' by Makoto Shinkai. It could be a coincidence but do you know an other movie by this man?
'Your Name', one of the most reylo film I've seen and one movie JJ should adapt in the future.

My theory.
People at Lucasfilm watched Makoto Shinkai's filmography so maybe there are hints for IX in other movies.

californiagirl wrote:https://observer.com/2019/08/star-wars-rian-johnson-trilogy-knives-out-tiff/

Not much new here, but nice to see him still at it. Wonder when this will come out. D&D recently signed huge deals with both Netflix and Universal, plus the SW trilogy thing? I really am confused about how and when everybody's stuff is happening.

They are crafting a new film series set within the Star Wars universe, and those plans remain on the boards.