Episode IX: Spoilers and Rumors

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Kylo Rey wrote:So apparently JJ's daughter is going to London next week (according to people who follow her on insta). Supposedly she was at the table read for TFA so I'm thinking production might start next week and we might get a vid and/or pic.

Chris24601 wrote:

Lily Snape wrote:

Saracene wrote:@Chris24601 I think that Rey and Kylo's separate "sidequest" could be a situation where Kylo is imprisoned by the FO after doing some big selfless thing for Rey's sake, and she decides to go and rescue him. If you have Kylo break away from the FO way earlier than the last 15 minutes, you need to introduce a different sort of tension, like "will Kylo die". Or maybe they're both taken prisoners by the FO.

@Saracene

I was hoping for this for TLJ, but I think that for romantic Reylo or even incipient romantic Reylo to happen, it’s kind of a necessity for IX unless they really double down on the Force bond moments.  They need something like the Han/Leia detour on the asteroid in ESB, or what my family refers to as a “field trip with Zuko” from Avatar: the Last Air Bender—the detour with someone important to the character that changes both the individuals and their relationship.  

@Lily Snape
I've been thinking about this and about how they might tie IX back to the entire Skywalker Saga as a whole and what I hit upon was the idea of a still miserable Kylo deciding to seek answers from the one person he believes can truly give them to him; Anakin's Force Ghost. The plot would be that Anakin's ghost hasn't been seen since the end of Return of the Jedi so Kylo decides to slip away from his duties as Renperor to seek out Anakin at various places that were important to Anakin in life.

As a result we'd visit Endor (where he died), Mustafar (where he was transformed), Tattooine (specifically the Lars homestead where Shmi is buried) and, ultimately, Naboo (specifically Padme's tomb) where the final battle will occur. I would further mix in Kylo meeting the Force Ghost of Luke at Vader's pyre on Endor, Leia (possibly as a revelation that Hux has finally tracked her down and killed her if she isn't dead before the movie began... regardless I think she'd be silent and just looking at Ben lovingly... possibly by making use of unused takes from filming Carrie for TLJ) at Shmi's grave on Tattooine and finally Anakin at Padme's grave.

Rey comes into the picture because she's been watching him be torn between the dark and the light over the time since TLJ through their Force bond so she knows he's going off on his own and has received a vision that Kylo's quest is critical to balancing the Force/saving the galaxy and that he will die if she's not by his side. She takes the Falcon and heads off on her own as well.

The action in the plot comes from Hux taking advantage of Kylo's distraction to launch his coup. While Hux moves to crush the Resistance/Rebels with the First Order's military, he also sends a team of Force-sensitive assassins (possibly even the Knights of Ren if the majority of them aren't Luke's former students) led by Keri Russel's character to make sure Kylo never returns from his "sabbatical." Kylo's ship gets destroyed at the first stop so the rest of the quest would be Rey and Kylo aboard the Falcon with more and more assassins showing up at each stop along the way.

Ultimately, Anakin's Force Ghost at Padme's tomb would be used to turn the subtext of Reylo as reverse Anidala into overt text for the truly dense viewers out there and the resolution would involve Ben and Rey taking back control of the First Order (in the middle of a huge pitched space battle) so that Ben can then surrender all the power to Rey (thus the final battle ends not with a huge explosion, but with the guns of both sides falling silent) whose solitary act as Empress of the Galaxy is to disband said Empire by granting every world its freedom (i.e. not bringing back the Republic, but allowing each world to follow its own path).

Then you full circle the thing to a liberation parade on Naboo (episode I ending) where all the heroes are present with cross-cuts to celebrations across the galaxy (episode VI ending) and finally to Rey and Ben alone together looking out at the future/rising sun as the Force theme plays (episode III ending).

It's ENTIRELY possible I've thought a bit TOO much about this.

MrsWindu wrote:@EchoBase @SW_Heroine_Journey

I don't know if either of you posted the exact same images on Tumblr but I just seen the same set up on there....unless you're called Romeo-in-space on that platform?

Please forgive me if this you and I'm jumping to assumptions, as @snufkin pointed out to me once its funny how these things migrate from this forum.

MrsWindu wrote:@EchoBase @SW_Heroine_Journey

I don't know if either of you posted the exact same images on Tumblr but I just seen the same set up on there....unless you're called Romeo-in-space on that platform?

Please forgive me if this you and I'm jumping to assumptions, as @snufkin pointed out to me once its funny how these things migrate from this forum.

MrsWindu wrote:@EchoBase @SW_Heroine_Journey

I don't know if either of you posted the exact same images on Tumblr but I just seen the same set up on there....unless you're called Romeo-in-space on that platform?

Please forgive me if this you and I'm jumping to assumptions, as @snufkin pointed out to me once its funny how these things migrate from this forum.

Lily Snape wrote:

Chris24601 wrote:

Lily Snape wrote:

Saracene wrote:@Chris24601 I think that Rey and Kylo's separate "sidequest" could be a situation where Kylo is imprisoned by the FO after doing some big selfless thing for Rey's sake, and she decides to go and rescue him. If you have Kylo break away from the FO way earlier than the last 15 minutes, you need to introduce a different sort of tension, like "will Kylo die". Or maybe they're both taken prisoners by the FO.

@Saracene

I was hoping for this for TLJ, but I think that for romantic Reylo or even incipient romantic Reylo to happen, it’s kind of a necessity for IX unless they really double down on the Force bond moments.  They need something like the Han/Leia detour on the asteroid in ESB, or what my family refers to as a “field trip with Zuko” from Avatar: the Last Air Bender—the detour with someone important to the character that changes both the individuals and their relationship.  

@Lily Snape
I've been thinking about this and about how they might tie IX back to the entire Skywalker Saga as a whole and what I hit upon was the idea of a still miserable Kylo deciding to seek answers from the one person he believes can truly give them to him; Anakin's Force Ghost. The plot would be that Anakin's ghost hasn't been seen since the end of Return of the Jedi so Kylo decides to slip away from his duties as Renperor to seek out Anakin at various places that were important to Anakin in life.

As a result we'd visit Endor (where he died), Mustafar (where he was transformed), Tattooine (specifically the Lars homestead where Shmi is buried) and, ultimately, Naboo (specifically Padme's tomb) where the final battle will occur. I would further mix in Kylo meeting the Force Ghost of Luke at Vader's pyre on Endor, Leia (possibly as a revelation that Hux has finally tracked her down and killed her if she isn't dead before the movie began... regardless I think she'd be silent and just looking at Ben lovingly... possibly by making use of unused takes from filming Carrie for TLJ) at Shmi's grave on Tattooine and finally Anakin at Padme's grave.

Rey comes into the picture because she's been watching him be torn between the dark and the light over the time since TLJ through their Force bond so she knows he's going off on his own and has received a vision that Kylo's quest is critical to balancing the Force/saving the galaxy and that he will die if she's not by his side. She takes the Falcon and heads off on her own as well.

The action in the plot comes from Hux taking advantage of Kylo's distraction to launch his coup. While Hux moves to crush the Resistance/Rebels with the First Order's military, he also sends a team of Force-sensitive assassins (possibly even the Knights of Ren if the majority of them aren't Luke's former students) led by Keri Russel's character to make sure Kylo never returns from his "sabbatical." Kylo's ship gets destroyed at the first stop so the rest of the quest would be Rey and Kylo aboard the Falcon with more and more assassins showing up at each stop along the way.

Ultimately, Anakin's Force Ghost at Padme's tomb would be used to turn the subtext of Reylo as reverse Anidala into overt text for the truly dense viewers out there and the resolution would involve Ben and Rey taking back control of the First Order (in the middle of a huge pitched space battle) so that Ben can then surrender all the power to Rey (thus the final battle ends not with a huge explosion, but with the guns of both sides falling silent) whose solitary act as Empress of the Galaxy is to disband said Empire by granting every world its freedom (i.e. not bringing back the Republic, but allowing each world to follow its own path).

Then you full circle the thing to a liberation parade on Naboo (episode I ending) where all the heroes are present with cross-cuts to celebrations across the galaxy (episode VI ending) and finally to Rey and Ben alone together looking out at the future/rising sun as the Force theme plays (episode III ending).

It's ENTIRELY possible I've thought a bit TOO much about this.

@Chris24601



That is an epic field trip. Even if they don’t whip up something that awesome, I hope Rey and Kylo — who are now connected and can actually be in the same room without trying to do damage to each other— go off alone together like Han and Leia did. “We have to repair the Falcon” is always a great excuse, even if it has been used before, because the Falcon is (pun intended) no spring chicken. That said, I’m not sure where my “Rey and Ben need some time alone” headcanon fits with my “Ben has to make an epic and near-fatal sacrifice for Rey and for the good of the galaxy” headcanon. I’m sure JJ can figure it out.

ISeeAnIsland wrote:

Lily Snape wrote:

Chris24601 wrote:

Lily Snape wrote:

Saracene wrote:@Chris24601 I think that Rey and Kylo's separate "sidequest" could be a situation where Kylo is imprisoned by the FO after doing some big selfless thing for Rey's sake, and she decides to go and rescue him. If you have Kylo break away from the FO way earlier than the last 15 minutes, you need to introduce a different sort of tension, like "will Kylo die". Or maybe they're both taken prisoners by the FO.

@Saracene

I was hoping for this for TLJ, but I think that for romantic Reylo or even incipient romantic Reylo to happen, it’s kind of a necessity for IX unless they really double down on the Force bond moments.  They need something like the Han/Leia detour on the asteroid in ESB, or what my family refers to as a “field trip with Zuko” from Avatar: the Last Air Bender—the detour with someone important to the character that changes both the individuals and their relationship.  

@Lily Snape
I've been thinking about this and about how they might tie IX back to the entire Skywalker Saga as a whole and what I hit upon was the idea of a still miserable Kylo deciding to seek answers from the one person he believes can truly give them to him; Anakin's Force Ghost. The plot would be that Anakin's ghost hasn't been seen since the end of Return of the Jedi so Kylo decides to slip away from his duties as Renperor to seek out Anakin at various places that were important to Anakin in life.

As a result we'd visit Endor (where he died), Mustafar (where he was transformed), Tattooine (specifically the Lars homestead where Shmi is buried) and, ultimately, Naboo (specifically Padme's tomb) where the final battle will occur. I would further mix in Kylo meeting the Force Ghost of Luke at Vader's pyre on Endor, Leia (possibly as a revelation that Hux has finally tracked her down and killed her if she isn't dead before the movie began... regardless I think she'd be silent and just looking at Ben lovingly... possibly by making use of unused takes from filming Carrie for TLJ) at Shmi's grave on Tattooine and finally Anakin at Padme's grave.

Rey comes into the picture because she's been watching him be torn between the dark and the light over the time since TLJ through their Force bond so she knows he's going off on his own and has received a vision that Kylo's quest is critical to balancing the Force/saving the galaxy and that he will die if she's not by his side. She takes the Falcon and heads off on her own as well.

The action in the plot comes from Hux taking advantage of Kylo's distraction to launch his coup. While Hux moves to crush the Resistance/Rebels with the First Order's military, he also sends a team of Force-sensitive assassins (possibly even the Knights of Ren if the majority of them aren't Luke's former students) led by Keri Russel's character to make sure Kylo never returns from his "sabbatical." Kylo's ship gets destroyed at the first stop so the rest of the quest would be Rey and Kylo aboard the Falcon with more and more assassins showing up at each stop along the way.

Ultimately, Anakin's Force Ghost at Padme's tomb would be used to turn the subtext of Reylo as reverse Anidala into overt text for the truly dense viewers out there and the resolution would involve Ben and Rey taking back control of the First Order (in the middle of a huge pitched space battle) so that Ben can then surrender all the power to Rey (thus the final battle ends not with a huge explosion, but with the guns of both sides falling silent) whose solitary act as Empress of the Galaxy is to disband said Empire by granting every world its freedom (i.e. not bringing back the Republic, but allowing each world to follow its own path).

Then you full circle the thing to a liberation parade on Naboo (episode I ending) where all the heroes are present with cross-cuts to celebrations across the galaxy (episode VI ending) and finally to Rey and Ben alone together looking out at the future/rising sun as the Force theme plays (episode III ending).

It's ENTIRELY possible I've thought a bit TOO much about this.

@Chris24601



That is an epic field trip.   Even if they don’t whip up something that awesome, I hope Rey and Kylo — who are now connected and can actually be in the same room without trying to do damage to each other— go off alone together like Han and Leia did.  “We have to repair the Falcon” is always a great excuse, even if it has been used before, because the Falcon is (pun intended) no spring chicken.  That said, I’m not sure where my “Rey and Ben need some time alone” headcanon fits with my “Ben has to make an epic and near-fatal sacrifice for Rey and for the good of the galaxy” headcanon.  I’m sure JJ can figure it out.  

@Lily Snape

It works if Ben's epic sacrifice is to save the galaxy (and not Rey specifically). Perhaps we get a mid-movie diversion where Rey and Ben spend some alone time together, and Rey learns that Ben really is (as Benporer) working for the good of the galaxy, which softens Rey's view of Ben--perhaps even to the point where they kiss. Or they spend time together because Ben has been ousted by Hux and is now on the run...  

But by the end of the movie, Ben has to do something on a galaxy-wide scale to save the day for everyone (not just for the woman that he's fallen in love with)--like a "free the slaves" scenario or something.

Here's a scoop for you. Ridley, Boyega and Isaac have recently signed a multi-picture deal. Lucasfilm will try to keep this a secret because they want Episode IX to get the final movie bump at the boxoffice. But make no mistake, there will be more movies with these actors who are slated to appear together as the trio. Now this is where things get really interesting. Adam Driver has signed the multi-picture contract too, but my source tells me that "Driver will not appear in the movies with the rest of the cast, but in separate movies." The source theorizes that something happens in Episode IX that separates this character and puts him on his own (cinematic) journey.
That's all I've been told.

vaderito wrote:Don't know if this is crack or not, so I'm gonna post in Crack and here:

Here's a scoop for you. Ridley, Boyega and Isaac have recently signed a multi-picture deal. Lucasfilm will try to keep this a secret because they want Episode IX to get the final movie bump at the boxoffice. But make no mistake, there will be more movies with these actors who are slated to appear together as the trio. Now this is where things get really interesting. Adam Driver has signed the multi-picture contract too, but my source tells me that "Driver will not appear in the movies with the rest of the cast, but in separate movies." The source theorizes that something happens in Episode IX that separates this character and puts him on his own (cinematic) journey.
That's all I've been told.

http://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/101259612

snufkin wrote:

MrsWindu wrote:@EchoBase @SW_Heroine_Journey

I don't know if either of you posted the exact same images on Tumblr but I just seen the same set up on there....unless you're called Romeo-in-space on that platform?

Please forgive me if this you and I'm jumping to assumptions, as @snufkin pointed out to me once its funny how these things migrate from this forum.

@MrsWindu


Ha, I predicted that someone would likely copy/paste this discussion because so many things (including your scans) have been stolen from here and reposted to Tumblr and Reddit. Do you have a link?

SW_Heroine_Journey wrote:

snufkin wrote:

MrsWindu wrote:@EchoBase @SW_Heroine_Journey

I don't know if either of you posted the exact same images on Tumblr but I just seen the same set up on there....unless you're called Romeo-in-space on that platform?

Please forgive me if this you and I'm jumping to assumptions, as @snufkin pointed out to me once its funny how these things migrate from this forum.

@MrsWindu


Ha, I predicted that someone would likely copy/paste this discussion because so many things (including your scans) have been stolen from here and reposted to Tumblr and Reddit. Do you have a link?

@snufkin
@MrsWindu mentioned Romeo-in-space, so I went hunting. When I saw it, yeah....I doubt it is a coincidence. Definitely not a tumblr I am bookmarking and checking for metas because that is not cool!

http://romeo-in-space.tumblr.com/post/176041466546/it-rhymes

MrsWindu wrote:

SW_Heroine_Journey wrote:

snufkin wrote:

MrsWindu wrote:@EchoBase @SW_Heroine_Journey

I don't know if either of you posted the exact same images on Tumblr but I just seen the same set up on there....unless you're called Romeo-in-space on that platform?

Please forgive me if this you and I'm jumping to assumptions, as @snufkin pointed out to me once its funny how these things migrate from this forum.

@MrsWindu


Ha, I predicted that someone would likely copy/paste this discussion because so many things (including your scans) have been stolen from here and reposted to Tumblr and Reddit. Do you have a link?

@snufkin
@MrsWindu mentioned Romeo-in-space, so I went hunting. When I saw it, yeah....I doubt it is a coincidence. Definitely not a tumblr I am bookmarking and checking for metas because that is not cool!

http://romeo-in-space.tumblr.com/post/176041466546/it-rhymes

@AhsokaTano

I’m sorry I totally forgot to tag you I’m my original post - it’s always tricker on a phone. But I agree it’s not cool to share without credit

AhsokaTano wrote:Hi all no that’s not my tumblr unfortunately- I dip in and out of tumblr like Reddit but not on there .   I do find interestingly enough that things we post here turn up there a few hours later so people that aren’t on here are eavesdropping and watching this forum. Sigh!It seems to happen a lot not just with this particular incident  so am thinking about keeping closer eye on these  sites /forums.
Sorry I didn’t reply earlier but have been distracted with the news that’s come out of comic con so far that they are finishing clone wars ! At least it will get  a proper ending like Rebels !

vaderito wrote:Don't know if this is crack or not, so I'm gonna post in Crack and here:

Here's a scoop for you. Ridley, Boyega and Isaac have recently signed a multi-picture deal. Lucasfilm will try to keep this a secret because they want Episode IX to get the final movie bump at the boxoffice. But make no mistake, there will be more movies with these actors who are slated to appear together as the trio. Now this is where things get really interesting. Adam Driver has signed the multi-picture contract too, but my source tells me that "Driver will not appear in the movies with the rest of the cast, but in separate movies." The source theorizes that something happens in Episode IX that separates this character and puts him on his own (cinematic) journey.
That's all I've been told.

http://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/101259612

Moonjump05 wrote:

vaderito wrote:Don't know if this is crack or not, so I'm gonna post in Crack and here:

Here's a scoop for you. Ridley, Boyega and Isaac have recently signed a multi-picture deal. Lucasfilm will try to keep this a secret because they want Episode IX to get the final movie bump at the boxoffice. But make no mistake, there will be more movies with these actors who are slated to appear together as the trio. Now this is where things get really interesting. Adam Driver has signed the multi-picture contract too, but my source tells me that "Driver will not appear in the movies with the rest of the cast, but in separate movies." The source theorizes that something happens in Episode IX that separates this character and puts him on his own (cinematic) journey.
That's all I've been told.

http://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/101259612

@vaderito

The crack is friendship trio headcanon desperation. Sorry, that ship is sailed.

AhsokaTano wrote:It gets worse - I’ve got a friend who uses tumblr( at work )&  after I explained to her what had happened with my post she tried to message the person who posted it on tumblr ( because it won’t allow you to post outside of tumblr as I tried that yesterday  ) and she couldn’t do it either . They’ve set their account to not accept messages . The only thing I hope is if they were watching this forum they know that we know  what they did .
Ps/ of course it is feasible that the above tumblr poster had the same idea and just posted their post later than one here . It’s hard to prove either way but it looks like no one can ask them about it because they are not taking messages.

special_cases wrote:I see that some users who are also active here have shared that post on Tumblr. Did someone talk to romeo-in-space about it or send him\her a message?