Rey's Lineage Discussion II

spacebaby45678 wrote:http://nonibear11.tumblr.com/post/156518605430/just-in-case-you-were-wondering

Piper Maru wrote:She doesn't need to a Skywalker for this to work. Actually, in this kind of story, it would be soooo corny and predictable if she is a Skywalker.

If she was a powerful or relevant child, Luke and Ben could've been looking for her for reasons unknown. Maybe she was abandoned because they were very close to finding her? Maybe Luke had bigger plans for her in the academy and someone didn't want this to happen?

Gemini wrote:

spacebaby45678 wrote:http://nonibear11.tumblr.com/post/156518605430/just-in-case-you-were-wondering

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Has he ever flat out debunked korkie being her father yet? He must have been asked so many times.

spacebaby45678 wrote:Writer-director J.J. Abrams has recently said that, before he started shooting The Force Awakens, he watched John Ford Westerns and Kurosawa’s 1963 High and Low.
http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/cover_story/2015/12/star_wars_is_a_pastiche_how_george_lucas_combined_flash_gordon_westerns.html

Both movies of a kidnapped child. Notice JJ does not reveal which John Ford movie he watched in particular, but we already know which John Ford western the Star Wars Saga has taken major themes from and actual scenes.

John Fords the Searchers. George Lucas has used The Searches as the  emotional turning point/pivotal of the protagonist/hero in both the OT & PT. For Luke in ANH it is when he returns home to find his Uncle & Aunt killed by storm troopers. This precipitates Luke's turning to light side to learn the ways of the force and become a Jedi

A New Hope



Attack of the Clones
For Anakin it is when he returns home to find his mother has been kidnapped by Sand People and she dies. This precipitates Anakins turn to the Darkside









The Force Awakens

Rey is a seemingly "abandoned child living in a graveyard"  Or is she kidnapped like Debbie in The Searchers? Notice Debbie hides in a graveyard.




The moment Rey meets again with Luke is mirrored when Ethan finds a grown up Debbie.





So what do we know

Uncle Luke & Nephew Ben, are out of contact with Leia for some years, we don't know exactly what it is they are doing in the years prior to Ben's fall to the dark side
In The Searchers Uncle Ethan played by John Wayne and His Adopted Nephew Martin spend years searching for little Debbie. Are Ben & Luke searching for someone who has previously been kidnapped.

When Ethan and Martin find the girl, Ethan wants to Kill her because she has become acculturated to the Comanche people and their ways, but Martin won't let him. now an adolescent (Natalie Wood), living as one of Scar's wives. She tells the men that she has become a Comanche, and wishes to remain with them. ( Some spoilers lead us to believe that everything on Ach-to wants to kill Rey)

Scar and Martin are mirror images of each other both darkskinned with blue eyes, both men are mixed one part Cherokee and one part Comanche, with European. In this world being of mixed blood leaves you inexorably in both worlds, like Kylo a tipping point for both the light and the dark.




Kylo's has a scar because he is Scar




So what does this tell us about Rey's lineage? If anything at all. You could say from this information she is a Solo or Skywalker... but this!

Kylo has complicated things....



So is she some random child that Kylo & Luke where looking for? Is she a descendant of Palpatine? Would Luke care? Or is she a Kenobi descendant that Luke would feel obligated and willing to look for, someone almost like family?



It is  you?

Queen of the Knights wrote:"Luke Skywalker? I thought he was a myth." Debunk number 100000000+





And, yes, she picked up the mind trick from Kylo.

Xylo Ren wrote:So Pablo is saying that she has some images and/or memories of her parents or else she wouldn't know who to wait for. This makes sense, especially if Leia could "remember" images of Padme (lol). Basically she would've recognized Luke when she handed him the lightsaber had he been her father. And if Leia was her mother (lol x2) she would've recognized her when they hugged. (Mommy!)

And YAY WE KNEW SHE GOT SOMETHING FROM KYLO. This is going to play a HUGE role in their relationship and the Force plot going forward! Amazing!!!

RandomObserver wrote:I geeked out when I read that. I'm fairly sure she's either a Kenobi or someone especially significant to the Galaxy, but this pretty much sets things straight with her not being related to the Skywalkers. Also, with the comment above, last night we re-watched SWTFA, and I had a thought as Rey was using the mind trick and Kylo Ren left Snoke, storming the corridors to go retrieve her; what if he was somehow sending her instructions mentally on what to do, like he told her telepathically or somehow suggested it through the force to use the mind trick to escape, because he didn't want to take her to Snoke? Just a thought. But I am so stoked PH said that!

ZioRen wrote:Oh Pablo. I saw someone on Reddit claim that Pablo just wanted to blurt out that of COURSE Rey is a Skywalker so people would be quiet. And I was just like, are you kidding? Pablo is one of the main sources of Reywalker wreckage.

BastilaBey wrote:Apologies if this has been posted already, just thought it worth sharing.

panki wrote:

BastilaBey wrote:Apologies if this has been posted already, just thought it worth sharing.

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I find this tweet really interesting, especially when read with a couple of lines from Aftermath where some children being taken to an imperial academy are asked to go back home by rebels after the Empire falls:

“Home isn’t anywhere, then. My parents kicked my can down the road and moved on when I wasn’t looking. Went off to be nomads somewhere."

and

“You sure stick your nose in it, don’t you, kid?”
“Maybe that’s why my parents fixed to get rid of me.”

Looks like parents leaving children behind and taking off wasn't unheard of in the GFFA. It makes sense for Rey's ethnicity to not be defined in casting if her parents were just some random people who dumped her with Unkar Plutt and went off....it also explains Maz's lines about the people she is waiting for never coming back.