General Discussion: Canon Novels/Comics/Short Stories

To anyone else reading the Princess Leia comics (Rebel Jail arc):

(I may or may not be serious) Anyone else wondering why the Rebellion is keeping Han and Luke around? I mean, those two are like walking liabilities. I get that maybe the Rebellion isn't in a position to be choosy, but I feel a line has to be drawn somewhere. If I was in charge, I'd be sending them a 'Thanks, but no thanks' memo.

Armadeus wrote:To anyone else reading the Princess Leia comics (Rebel Jail arc):

(I may or may not be serious) Anyone else wondering why the Rebellion is keeping Han and Luke around? I mean, those two are like walking liabilities. I get that maybe the Rebellion isn't in a position to be choosy, but I feel a line has to be drawn somewhere. If I was in charge, I'd be sending them a 'Thanks, but no thanks' memo.

@Armadeus

Completely agree! They seem to be the comedy and general nuisance element of the story arc....carrying illegal livestock, getting captured and covered with explosives etc.... That being said, I love Doctor Aphra and her snarky comments, goading Sana and poor Leia having to keep them from murdering each other...

I'm also very intrigued by the long term effects of force lightning on FS and non-FS people after seeing what has happened to Eneb Ray....

panki wrote:

Armadeus wrote:To anyone else reading the Princess Leia comics (Rebel Jail arc):

(I may or may not be serious) Anyone else wondering why the Rebellion is keeping Han and Luke around? I mean, those two are like walking liabilities. I get that maybe the Rebellion isn't in a position to be choosy, but I feel a line has to be drawn somewhere. If I was in charge, I'd be sending them a 'Thanks, but no thanks' memo.

@Armadeus

Completely agree! They seem to be the comedy and general nuisance element of the story arc....carrying illegal livestock, getting captured and covered with explosives etc.... That being said, I love Doctor Aphra and her snarky comments, goading Sana and poor Leia having to keep them from murdering each other...

I'm also very intrigued by the long term effects of force lightning on FS and non-FS people after seeing what has happened to Eneb Ray....

@panki

I'm curious to see how Aphra's gonna handle learning that Vader wants her dead. Wonder if she'll throw her lot in with the Rebellion. I'm sure they could use a droid specialist.

Armadeus wrote:

panki wrote:

Armadeus wrote:To anyone else reading the Princess Leia comics (Rebel Jail arc):

(I may or may not be serious) Anyone else wondering why the Rebellion is keeping Han and Luke around? I mean, those two are like walking liabilities. I get that maybe the Rebellion isn't in a position to be choosy, but I feel a line has to be drawn somewhere. If I was in charge, I'd be sending them a 'Thanks, but no thanks' memo.

@Armadeus

Completely agree! They seem to be the comedy and general nuisance element of the story arc....carrying illegal livestock, getting captured and covered with explosives etc....    That being said, I love Doctor Aphra and her snarky comments, goading Sana and poor Leia having to keep them from murdering each other...

I'm also very intrigued by the long term effects of force lightning on FS and non-FS people after seeing what has happened to Eneb Ray....

@panki

I'm curious to see how Aphra's gonna handle learning that Vader wants her dead. Wonder if she'll throw her lot in with the Rebellion. I'm sure they could use a droid specialist.

@Armadeus

Maybe Leia and the resistance will track Doctor Aphra (they mentioned how they've placed trackers on her) and they'll reach just in time to save her from Vader? I'd love to see her join the resistance and cause lots of trouble for the imperials.....the resistance could use a droid specialist but would Bee Tee and 0-0-0 join the resistance or remain with the imperials?

But I also have a bad feeling Vader might finish her off.....in the first Vader comics, she tells Vader that if he must kill her, she requested it be done quickly with a lightsaber through the neck....could it be foreshadowing?

Poe Dameron Issue #3 is out.... are we seeing the first official romantic couple of the ST?

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The first of the four-part comic series of "The Force Awakens" is finally out and I'm a little disappointed.... the first page was really weird, particularly how the characters are introduced.

I'll probably get the rest to complete the collection but I'm not a fan so far!  

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panki wrote:The first of the four-part comic series of "The Force Awakens" is finally out and I'm a little disappointed.... the first page was really weird, particularly how the characters are introduced.

I'll probably get the rest to complete the collection but I'm not a fan so far!  

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@panki

I have to wait until September . I've read reviews, they weren't really positive. I've just finished the Leia mini-series and was also a bit dissappointed (lame story and the illustrations were not really convincing). But I loved Obi-Wan and Anakin!

EchoBase wrote:

panki wrote:The first of the four-part comic series of "The Force Awakens" is finally out and I'm a little disappointed.... the first page was really weird, particularly how the characters are introduced.

I'll probably get the rest to complete the collection but I'm not a fan so far!  

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@panki

I have to wait until September . I've read reviews, they weren't really positive. I've just finished the Leia mini-series and was also a bit dissappointed (lame story and the illustrations were not really convincing). But I loved Obi-Wan and Anakin!

@EchoBase

Obiwan & Anakin was really good!

Sometimes I wonder whether Lor San Tekka would have been able to tell the difference between jedi and sith knowledge/ artifacts after reading of how the Scavenger mistook sith artifacts for jedi ones (which Obi-wan wisely figured out)....maybe he inadvertently passed dark side knowledge to Luke and his acolytes?

My second favourite series is the Vader comic series (especially Doctor Aphra and the droids)... the Leia comics series was quite dull.....

The Force Awakens comic #2 is out...... still no unmasked Kylo..... But hopefully we'll get the bridal carry in the next comic...

The good news- Finn and Rey have been depicted like a pair of bickering siblings so far

In the meantime, a little space rage....    

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Interesting development in the latest Darth Vader comic....Cylo V had a switch to deactivate Vader's suit and he used it....while sitting deactivated, Vader confronted his emotions in the form of Obi-wan, himself as the jedi Anakin and Padme....he hates Obi-wan for not killing him and he hates himself for killing Obi-wan...Also, it looks like Vader and Anakin have split into two completely different personalities during this time...and the Vader personality has become very strong and ruthless. This is definitely going to have some impact in the ST. (maybe Vader is still living in that helmet)

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panki wrote:The Force Awakens comic #2 is out...... still no unmasked Kylo..... But hopefully we'll get the bridal carry in the next comic...

The good news- Finn and Rey have been depicted like a pair of bickering siblings so far

In the meantime, a little space rage....    

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@panki

Oh my goodness... looks like the artwork still hasn't improved. The first issue was awful! Poe looked like he was in his sixties LOL! Oh well, looking forward to seeing the Reylo interactions anyway.

Hey Panki, did you ever read the Obsession comics?

Anyone seen the latest issue of the Journal of Ben Kenobi?

Holy crap, Owen and Beru are kinda awesome.

AppleCrumble122 wrote:

panki wrote:The Force Awakens comic #2 is out...... still no unmasked Kylo..... But hopefully we'll get the bridal carry in the next comic...

The good news- Finn and Rey have been depicted like a pair of bickering siblings so far

In the meantime, a little space rage....    

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@panki

Oh my goodness... looks like the artwork still hasn't improved. The first issue was awful! Poe looked like he was in his sixties LOL! Oh well, looking forward to seeing the Reylo interactions anyway.

Hey Panki, did you ever read the Obsession comics?

@AppleCrumble122

I LOVE the Obsession series!!! Am hoping some of the stories are brought into canon..... (not the ventress and kenobi obsession part thought )

panki wrote:

AppleCrumble122 wrote:

panki wrote:The Force Awakens comic #2 is out...... still no unmasked Kylo..... But hopefully we'll get the bridal carry in the next comic...

The good news- Finn and Rey have been depicted like a pair of bickering siblings so far

In the meantime, a little space rage....    

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@panki

Oh my goodness... looks like the artwork still hasn't improved. The first issue was awful! Poe looked like he was in his sixties LOL! Oh well, looking forward to seeing the Reylo interactions anyway.

Hey Panki, did you ever read the Obsession comics?

@AppleCrumble122

I LOVE the Obsession series!!! Am hoping some of the stories are brought into canon.....

@panki

Whoo! Silly question I know, of course you would have lol . I'm gonna be honest, I was really disappointed that the Obi-Wan/Asajj relationship wasn't brought into canon - specifically the 2008 Clone Wars. There were hints of it here and there but it wasn't fully explored, but the relationship was so intense and engaging with ambiguity in it as in you never never really sure what their true feelings for each other were and in my opinion it fitted with the whole redemption theme of SW as well as the hero/villain romance themes. Still I haven't seen all of Clone Wars so I don't know the full extent of the Obi-Wan/Satine relationship and I haven't read Dark Disciple either (that's on my reading list lol).

I also loved how they brought Durge back and he got better development in it then the 2003 Clone Wars. Do you think he'll ever come back into canon?

AppleCrumble122 wrote:

panki wrote:

AppleCrumble122 wrote:

panki wrote:The Force Awakens comic #2 is out...... still no unmasked Kylo..... But hopefully we'll get the bridal carry in the next comic...

The good news- Finn and Rey have been depicted like a pair of bickering siblings so far

In the meantime, a little space rage....    

Spoiler:

@panki

Oh my goodness... looks like the artwork still hasn't improved. The first issue was awful! Poe looked like he was in his sixties LOL! Oh well, looking forward to seeing the Reylo interactions anyway.

Hey Panki, did you ever read the Obsession comics?

@AppleCrumble122

I LOVE the Obsession series!!! Am hoping some of the stories are brought into canon.....

@panki

Whoo! Silly question I know, of course you would have lol . I'm gonna be honest, I was really disappointed that the Obi-Wan/Asajj relationship wasn't brought into canon - specifically the 2008 Clone Wars. There were hints of it here and there but it wasn't fully explored, but the relationship was so intense and engaging with ambiguity in it as in you never never really sure what their true feelings for each other were and in my opinion it fitted with the whole redemption theme of SW as well as the hero/villain romance themes. Still I haven't seen all of Clone Wars so I don't know the full extent of the Obi-Wan/Satine relationship and I haven't read Dark Disciple either (that's on my reading list lol).

I also loved how they brought Durge back and he got better development in it then the 2003 Clone Wars. Do you think he'll ever come back into canon?

@AppleCrumble122

It is funny....when someone in the old forum told me that Ventress was now Vos's LI in canon, I was really outraged because I loved the Obi-wan and Ventress relationship in SW Republic and Obsession....then I read Dark Disciple and fell completely in love with the Vos-Ventress relationship (wept buckets at the end of the book- it is possibly one of the best books in canon) and I just cannot imagine it any other way...if I look at it objectively, I think it is because the EU Ventress is not the same as the canon Ventress.....I read somewhere that GL liked her character but didn't want her to be a sith...so she has actually ended up being a much sweeter character and a Nightsister in canon- more grey than dark....helping Ahsoka, saving that kidnapped alien girl, etc....now that I think about it, this iteration of Ventress is a combination of Vos's EU LIs- Shylar and Khaleen....while the EU Ventress personality was used for the Seventh Sister in Rebels down to the little crustacean robots she uses to find things.



Another possibility for this development is that the Obi-wan- Ventress relationship would undermine the Obi-wan-Satine relationship- making him hop from LI to LI....I don't know if you've seen any of the Clone Wars episodes about the Mandalorians, but Satine reminds me of a non-FS Siri Tachi....so I like her.

I haven't had a chance to see the old clone wars cartoon as yet...but I like Durge in the comics....maybe they'll bring him into Rebels and make him work for Vader since he used bounty hunters?

Armadeus wrote:Anyone seen the latest issue of the Journal of Ben Kenobi?

Holy crap, Owen and Beru are kinda awesome.

@Armadeus

Armadeus wrote:Anyone seen the latest issue of the Journal of Ben Kenobi?

Holy crap, Owen and Beru are kinda awesome.

@Armadeus

Uncle Owen's attempts to bond with Luke are especially touching...and I like how he winks at Obi-wan at the end of the story....that was really nice.
What did you think of Obi-wan, Owen and Black Krrsantan's fight? I thought it was beautifully illustrated....actually, all the Old Man Kenobi comics have some of the best artwork.

panki wrote:

Armadeus wrote:Anyone seen the latest issue of the Journal of Ben Kenobi?

Holy crap, Owen and Beru are kinda awesome.

@Armadeus

Armadeus wrote:Anyone seen the latest issue of the Journal of Ben Kenobi?

Holy crap, Owen and Beru are kinda awesome.

@Armadeus

Uncle Owen's attempts to bond with Luke are especially touching...and I like how he winks at Obi-wan at the end of the story....that was really nice.
What did you think of Obi-wan, Owen and Black Krrsantan's fight? I thought it was beautifully illustrated....actually, all the Old Man Kenobi comics have some of the best artwork.

@panki

It was to see that Owen genuinely enjoys spending time with Luke. Nice change from the over-protective curmudgeon we see in ANH

I really liked the fight. One of my favourite parts was when Obi-Wan's mind trick on Black Krrrsantan fails miserably

Also, special mention must be given to Obi-Wan's pose when he surprises Krrrsantan as the latter is beating Owen

Star Wars Annual 2 will be available in January 2017 and is supposed to cover Leia's adventures as a rebel spy....I've noticed that there are a lot of stories in canon pertaining to Leia either as a spy or managing a spy ring, including sending Han on dangerous missions.... could this foreshadow Ben Solo initially contacting the FO as a spy for Leia?

Wow, how many comics are out there? My problem with comics is it reads so quickly and then I am like "That's it? Where is the rest of it?" And then I don't feel like filling my cupboards with comics. I tried the electronic ones - Mad Max not SW - on my iPad but it's not the same. So I prefer the novels. However, I would really love it if they would put drawings of the characters in the novels. Sometimes they describe a specy and I still have a hard time picturing it in my head. So I'd need something in between comics and novels I did buy a Leia comic a couple of weeks ago in the US but it was more as a souvenir. Have not read it yet.

I finished A New Dawn. I am still in the middle of Aftermath - Life Debt. Unfortunately I kind of started the 2 novels in parallel but was more interested in finishing A New Dawn. Now that I am back to Life Debt, I have to readjust to the story. I must admit I tend to forget names. Now if there was a picture with the name, I'd remember better.

I will be relying on you @panki before buying the TFA comics. If there is anything annoying in terms of how the characters and their dynamic are described in the last 2 issues, I won't buy it. I still clench my teeth thinking about the novelizations.

SanghaRen wrote:Wow, how many comics are out there? My problem with comics is it reads so quickly and then I am like "That's it? Where is the rest of it?" And then I don't feel like filling my cupboards with comics. I tried the electronic ones - Mad Max not SW - on my iPad but it's not the same. So I prefer the novels. However, I would really love it if they would put drawings of the characters in the novels. Sometimes they describe a specy and I still have a hard time picturing it in my head. So I'd need something in between comics and novels I did buy a Leia comic a couple of weeks ago in the US but it was more as a souvenir. Have not read it yet.

I finished A New Dawn. I am still in the middle of Aftermath - Life Debt. Unfortunately I kind of started the 2 novels in parallel but was more interested in finishing A New Dawn. Now that I am back to Life Debt, I have to readjust to the story. I must admit I tend to forget names. Now if there was a picture with the name, I'd remember better.

I will be relying on you @panki before buying the TFA comics. If there is anything annoying in terms of how the characters and their dynamic are described in the last 2 issues, I won't buy it. I still clench my teeth thinking about the novelizations.

@SanghaRen

I wouldn't mind a couple of illustrations in the novels either.....I would love to see what some of the characters are actually supposed to look like.

Most of the comics have excellent illustrations but not too much in terms of spoilers.....the problem is that in each series, one or two of the comics contain important spoilers linked to future events....so you're stuck reading a lot of irrelevant stuff in the hope that you find that one nugget of great information.....being a comic fan, I dont mind getting them but it might not be for everyone....as of now, I really love the Vader comic series.... there is only one issue left before the series ends (a 40 page special)....am really looking forward to it....

@Darth Dingbat

You made it, I read "The Perfect Weapon" instead of finishing Life Debt I am very intrigued and very confused too. You are indeed left wondering if it doesn't tie into TFA or VIII. If TFA, I guess we'll have the answer through a book but I do not quite understand why they would not just say it. I doubt many people will read the book. If VIII we might see a glimpse of Bazine again. Anyone knows if the actress is in the cast of VIII? What bugs me is that whatever Bazine retrieved sounds extremely important, but then they put the backstory in a small novel and sell the Kindle version for less than 1 EUR. Or is Lucasfilm playing with us and they are just going to open a new storyline that has no direct ties with the ST? I really am confused by what their target is with this book...

So now, what do you think is in the d*** case? You or anyone else who read the novella. I tag you because you mentioned the book. I first thought of these possibilities:

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I always bump into the obstacle of the timeline - apparently some time after Aftermath and before TFA -, the fact that it's been in the case for some years and some people know about it, and the fact that it must have seemed like nothing while being of utter importance - I don't see how the person who had it would have been allowed to keep it if its value was obvious.

A couple of other ideas:

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I am not very clear in my head today and I am not a good investigator. Bazine would not want me as a partner She does not like partners anyway.

@SanghaRen

I actually have a crack theory for this one...

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panki wrote:@SanghaRen

I actually have a crack theory for this one...

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@panki

I thought about that object too, but

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@SanghaRen

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panki wrote:

SanghaRen wrote:

panki wrote:@SanghaRen

I actually have a crack theory for this one...

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@panki

I thought about that object too, but

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@SanghaRen

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@panki

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