Re: The "Crack" Spoiler Discussion Thread

[snufkin]

I just misread that as Prince and the Scavenger and got distracted for a second thinking that Rey is going to Paisley Park instead of Ache-to. Prince would make a better mentor than Luke (and Rey could have pancakes versus boiled Porg, win win).

Disney is determined that we bow to the Porg Overlords, so wouldn’t be a surprise if they got a theme. Though my guess would be something for Finn like Mr Big Deal or giving Rose her own theme. @Xylo Ren has weighed in before on the likelihood of potential Williams titles having the education/experience with this topic.

[SoloSideCousin]

Porgs, Order of secrets. Fake imo.

@soulluos

I could actually see Porgs getting their own little section, especially if it's part of that island exploration Rey is on.

Also, "Order of Secrets" could refer to the Jedi Order.  She does go and read those books.

@SoloSideCousin

Didn't we see this same (or a similar) fake track listing before?  The reason I ask is that there was an early fake track listing that had other character names but no "Rey/Rey's" anything...  much as this list has.  I wonder if it's the same poster posting again.

Edit:  Someone else posted the other fake track listing further downthread. Here it is:

And a little bonus - previous score leak from august this year:

1.Main Title and The Attack On D'Qar

2.Kylo Rens Failure

3.Luke's Despair

4.Welcome Back

5.The Praetorian Guard

6.Snokes Warning

7.Chewies New Friends

8.The Massacre

9.Big Deal

10.Jurnal Of The Whills

11.Kylo Ren Arrives

12.Finn And Rose

13.The Force Tree

14.Casino Jam

15.On The Run

16.The Battle Of Crait

17.The Eclipse

18.Snoke Arrives

19.Leia's Sacrifice

20.Ben Solo

21.Return Of The Jedi

22.Prisoner

23.The Crash And Finale

There was another one, but if I remember right, it was Luke-centric, and did not have anything Reylotastic like "Prince and the Scavenger".  They might both be bs, but this is different in tone.

Edit: Okay, yeah, this was it. (I don't know how this list got in my post though. I had to modify and maybe when I modified you were posting and I caught this old list, lol).

[DarthRen]

Porgs, Order of secrets. Fake imo.

@soulluos

I could actually see Porgs getting their own little section, especially if it's part of that island exploration Rey is on.

Also, "Order of Secrets" could refer to the Jedi Order.  She does go and read those books.

@SoloSideCousin

Didn't we see this same (or a similar) fake track listing before?  The reason I ask is that there was an early fake track listing that had other character names but no "Rey/Rey's" anything...  much as this list has.  I wonder if it's the same poster posting again.

Edit: Someone else posted the other fake track listing further downthread. Here it is:

And a little bonus - previous score leak from august this year:

1.Main Title and The Attack On D'Qar

2.Kylo Rens Failure

3.Luke's Despair

4.Welcome Back

5.The Praetorian Guard

6.Snokes Warning

7.Chewies New Friends

8.The Massacre

9.Big Deal

10.Jurnal Of The Whills

11.Kylo Ren Arrives

12.Finn And Rose

13.The Force Tree

14.Casino Jam

15.On The Run

16.The Battle Of Crait

17.The Eclipse

18.Snoke Arrives

19.Leia's Sacrifice

20.Ben Solo

21.Return Of The Jedi

22.Prisoner

23.The Crash And Finale

@ISeeAnIsland

It's the one and possibly from the same author, like the spoiler of Rey going with Snoke and Kylo, Finn, Poe and BB-8 on Supremacy.

[SoloSideCousin]

soundtrack listing  

r/starwarsspeculation
The Soundtrack Titles For The Last Jedi
u/Pursuing_the_Dream
Main theme/The Supreme Leader

1.The Galaxy Needs You

2.Attack on D’qarr

3.Flight of the Resistance

4.Poe’s Fire

5.Porgs

6.Order of Secrets

7.Bombs Away

8.Retaliation

9.Crait

10.Welcome to Canto Bight

11.Jailbreak!/I Hope It’s Fast!

12.Tragedy

13.Master of the Knights of Ren

14.The Supremacy

15.Heartbreak

16.Last Stand

17.The Cold Truth

18.Destiny

19.The Prince and The Scavenger

20.Reunion

There’s Still Good In Him/End Credits

https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/79clao/the_soundtrack_titles_for_the_last_jedi/

@BenRey

I can’t believe there’s a “The Prince and the Scavenger.” I can’t allow myself to believe it.

@PalmettoBlue

I don't see reason why not. Cat is out of the bag already, may as well just give them a track.

@DarthRen

Too much hope. Trying to keep my expectations low to non-existent.

@PalmettoBlue

I'll tell you though, this one might line up with what MSW was saying about the opening of the movie. I mean wasn't the movie supposed to open with Kylo Ren being in some medical center. He could be dragged to the Supreme Leader right away. I mean we could even get a sense that Snoke is "calling for" Kylo", hence the Supreme Leader opening.

Then we cut to Rey asking Luke for help. Then to the attack on D'Qar.

[vaderito]

These clowns are truly something but "Bombs Away"

[DarthRen]

soundtrack listing  

r/starwarsspeculation
The Soundtrack Titles For The Last Jedi
u/Pursuing_the_Dream
Main theme/The Supreme Leader

1.The Galaxy Needs You

2.Attack on D’qarr

3.Flight of the Resistance

4.Poe’s Fire

5.Porgs

6.Order of Secrets

7.Bombs Away

8.Retaliation

9.Crait

10.Welcome to Canto Bight

11.Jailbreak!/I Hope It’s Fast!

12.Tragedy

13.Master of the Knights of Ren

14.The Supremacy

15.Heartbreak

16.Last Stand

17.The Cold Truth

18.Destiny

19.The Prince and The Scavenger

20.Reunion

There’s Still Good In Him/End Credits

https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/79clao/the_soundtrack_titles_for_the_last_jedi/

@BenRey

I can’t believe there’s a “The Prince and the Scavenger.” I can’t allow myself to believe it.

@PalmettoBlue

I don't see reason why not. Cat is out of the bag already, may as well just give them a track.

@DarthRen

Too much hope. Trying to keep my expectations low to non-existent.

@PalmettoBlue

I'll tell you though, this one might line up with what MSW was saying about the opening of the movie.  I mean wasn't the movie supposed to open with Kylo Ren being in some medical center.  He could be dragged to the Supreme Leader right away.  I mean we could even get a sense that Snoke is "calling for" Kylo", hence the Supreme Leader opening.

Then we cut to Rey asking Luke for help.  Then to the attack on D'Qar.

@SoloSideCousin

I think you're right. Vaguely remember that bit about Kylo in the medical center, not sure if bacta tank[I think that was the way to describe it].

Going strictly by my gut feeling, Snoke's presence will be huge and he's coming out of shadows ... I expect him to get a theme and be right on the front. I don't expect Rey to get a theme, she already has one and while The Prince and the Scavanger is heavy Reylo orientated, after the trailer. Would anyone be surprised at this point? They let the cat out of the bag even with their marketing strategy.

D'Qar has to be after Snoke calls for Kylo to brief him, he smashes his helmet and goes to fight the Resistance to kill his mother. Unless we go straight to D'Qar fight which doesn't make that much sense to me. Snoke talked about also finishing his training, so there has to be scene prior to that battle. Also, Rey and Luke before that. So, yeah this new set of titles matches MSW and what we know from the trailer or what could be the timeline of Act I better.

[Millicent the Cat]

Order of the Phoenix + Chamber of Secrets = Order of Secrets

Yer a wizard, Rey!

[vaderito]

Order of the Phoenix + Chamber of Secrets = Order of Secrets

Yer a wizard, Rey!

@Millicent the Cat

Ha,ha, exactly what I think!

Also, the guy who posted the first "leak" admitted that he faked it to see reactions. He assumed that The Eclipse would be the name of Snoke's ship cause of Empire's End but then Supremacy was disclosed soon after (Force Friday) and he was busted, though nobody believed him anyway. But he is not the poster who posted the Crashing SSD leak. This one only used that leak to make the fake track list.

This new leak doesn't even try to sound legit which is why it's totally awesome. Bombs Away!

[shii405]

The Prince and The Scavenger... hmm... it sounds too "HanLeia" for me... back then before Attack of the Clones was out, I thought they'd go with something like "The Jedi and The Senator" for Anakin/Padme love theme, but apparently John didn't wanna go with the same pattern. I'm thinking Reylo theme will have a new, fresh type of title. If they are really the chosen ones, they might have new terms for Kylo and Rey roles in the Force... something like Light and Dark but I'm hoping there are new terms to describe their raw power and the ancient philosophy related to Reylo's power, and I'm thinking John might use that for Reylo theme title.

But we'll see, if it's really The Prince and The Scavenger, I have no complaints as well, would be happy about it! Just being skeptic about this track listing leak for now.

[DeeBee]

The Prince and The Scavenger... hmm... it sounds too "HanLeia" for me... back then before Attack of the Clones was out, I thought they'd go with something like "The Jedi and The Senator" for Anakin/Padme love theme, but apparently John didn't wanna go with the same pattern. I'm thinking Reylo theme will have a new, fresh type of title. If they are really the chosen ones, they might have new terms for Kylo and Rey roles in the Force... something like Light and Dark but I'm hoping there are new terms to describe their raw power and the ancient philosophy related to Reylo's power, and I'm thinking John might use that for Reylo theme title.

But we'll see, if it's really The Prince and The Scavenger, I have no complaints as well, would be happy about it! Just being skeptic about this track listing leak for now.

@shii405

It sounds too Marilyn Monroe 'The Prince and the Showgirl'! .. but I love the idea nonetheless I agree @shii405 I wouldn't be complaining either

[vaderito]

I must admit this thread has become my favorite. I'm eagerly awaiting updates with new awesome fakes. We had quite a few boring ones that tried too hard to sound legit but complete lack of imagination and slavish devotion to already released stuff and speculation gave them away immediately. OTOH, I adore crazy leaks that pull no punches but just go off rails. This one is solid gold.

[IoJovi]

The Prince and The Scavenger... hmm... it sounds too "HanLeia" for me... back then before Attack of the Clones was out, I thought they'd go with something like "The Jedi and The Senator" for Anakin/Padme love theme, but apparently John didn't wanna go with the same pattern. I'm thinking Reylo theme will have a new, fresh type of title. If they are really the chosen ones, they might have new terms for Kylo and Rey roles in the Force... something like Light and Dark but I'm hoping there are new terms to describe their raw power and the ancient philosophy related to Reylo's power, and I'm thinking John might use that for Reylo theme title.

But we'll see, if it's really The Prince and The Scavenger, I have no complaints as well, would be happy about it! Just being skeptic about this track listing leak for now.

@shii405

It sounds too Marilyn Monroe 'The Prince and the Showgirl'! .. but I love the idea nonetheless I agree @shii405 I wouldn't be complaining either

@DeeBee

Even if it’s fake, it goes to definitely show all of these so-called “leakers” see the potential dynamic shown in the trailer.  There’s something to be said for that!

@vaderito Totally agree!

[vaderito]

@ioJovi They see dynamic cause it's big on Reddit. So they just try to cater to the audience.

[FrolickingFizzgig]

This is very fake. I lurk on Reddit and there were questions about the tracklist today. That's probably what prompted this "leaked" tracklist. Someone was like "Nobody ever believes fake af leaks on Reddit that involve questions, I'll write a tracklist instead!"

From what I remember Rogue One's list leaked a little over a week before the film and apparently TFA's leaked 3 or so weeks before. There's no way TLJ's has leaked nearly two months early, not when they've upped security to the max. Also "The Prince and the Scavenger"... eesh. The fact that a Reylo shipper probably wrote this doesn't make it any less crack af.

[vaderito]

anyone remembers this:

Main theme/The Supreme Leader
The Galaxy Needs You
Attack on D’qarr
Flight of the Resistance
Poe’s Fire
Porgs
Order of Secrets
Bombs Away
Retaliation
Crait
Welcome to Canto Bight
Jailbreak!/I Hope It’s Fast!
Tragedy
Master of the Knights of Ren
The Supremacy
Heartbreak
Last Stand
The Cold Truth
Destiny
The Prince and The Scavenger
Reunion
There’s Still Good In Him/End Credits

So someone on reddit is investigating whether this was leaked on Amazon and pulled.

[SoloSideCousin]

anyone remembers this:

Main theme/The Supreme Leader
The Galaxy Needs You
Attack on D’qarr
Flight of the Resistance
Poe’s Fire
Porgs
Order of Secrets
Bombs Away
Retaliation
Crait
Welcome to Canto Bight
Jailbreak!/I Hope It’s Fast!
Tragedy
Master of the Knights of Ren
The Supremacy
Heartbreak
Last Stand
The Cold Truth
Destiny
The Prince and The Scavenger
Reunion
There’s Still Good In Him/End Credits

So someone on reddit is investigating whether this was leaked on Amazon and pulled.

@vaderito

Awwww yeah!!!

[FrolickingFizzgig]

anyone remembers this:

Main theme/The Supreme Leader
The Galaxy Needs You
Attack on D’qarr
Flight of the Resistance
Poe’s Fire
Porgs
Order of Secrets
Bombs Away
Retaliation
Crait
Welcome to Canto Bight
Jailbreak!/I Hope It’s Fast!
Tragedy
Master of the Knights of Ren
The Supremacy
Heartbreak
Last Stand
The Cold Truth
Destiny
The Prince and The Scavenger
Reunion
There’s Still Good In Him/End Credits

So someone on reddit is investigating whether this was leaked on Amazon and pulled.

@vaderito
What made them suspect it was leaked on Amazon? You'd think they would have provided that in the initial "leak".

[ISeeAnIsland]

anyone remembers this:

Main theme/The Supreme Leader
The Galaxy Needs You
Attack on D’qarr
Flight of the Resistance
Poe’s Fire
Porgs
Order of Secrets
Bombs Away
Retaliation
Crait
Welcome to Canto Bight
Jailbreak!/I Hope It’s Fast!
Tragedy
Master of the Knights of Ren
The Supremacy
Heartbreak
Last Stand
The Cold Truth
Destiny
The Prince and The Scavenger
Reunion
There’s Still Good In Him/End Credits

So someone on reddit is investigating whether this was leaked on Amazon and pulled.

@vaderito

Interesting. What sparked that idea?

(They're probably also violating their NDA if they share whatever they find...)

[vaderito]

@Frolickingfizzgig @IseeAnisland it's fishy. Some people on Amazon claimed that this list was posted there and immediately taken down (but they saw it). Fishy. OTOH, the post is still standing on reddit. Fishier. When studios pull leaked stuff they pull it from everywhere and reddit is big enough to be on their radar for takedowns. So disregard.

[FrolickingFizzgig]

@Frolickingfizzgig @IseeAnisland it's fishy. Some people on Amazon claimed that this list was posted there and immediately taken down (but they saw it). Fishy. OTOH, the post is still standing on reddit. Fishier. When studios pull leaked stuff they pull it from everywhere and reddit is big enough to be on their radar for takedowns. So disregard.

@vaderito
Yeah, it just reads as so fake to me. Some Reylos headcanon timeline + obvious titles to fit that timeline. I would be shocked it turns out there's any validity to it. The one that stands out as the most fake to me is actually "Master of the Knights of Ren". Kylo already has a theme song, he doesn't need another one. Also, "The Prince and the Scavenger", which is just... really? And "I Hope It's Fast". Finn and Rose are going to know they're kidnapping race creatures. Why would they make a quippy statement wondering if they're fast?

[vaderito]

@Frolickingfizzgig @IseeAnisland it's fishy. Some people on Amazon claimed that this list was posted there and immediately taken down (but they saw it). Fishy. OTOH, the post is still standing on reddit. Fishier. When studios pull leaked stuff they pull it from everywhere and reddit is big enough to be on their radar for takedowns. So disregard.

@vaderito
Yeah, it just reads as so fake to me. Some Reylos headcanon timeline + obvious titles to fit that timeline. I would be shocked it turns out there's any validity to it. The one that stands out as the most fake to me is actually "Master of the Knights of Ren". Kylo already has a theme song, he doesn't need another one. Also, "The Prince and the Scavenger", which is just... really? And "I Hope It's Fast". Finn and Rose are going to know they're kidnapping race creatures. Why would they make a quippy statement wondering if they're fast?

@FrolickingFizzgig

I love that list cause it didn't even try to sound legit. Titles are more creative than usual legit titles so that gives it away as fake.

[Darth Dingbat]

If there really is a track called "The Prince and the Scavenger", I'm going to eat my hat.

....shaped cake. Chocolate hat cake. I'll make one! But anyway I'm not holding my breath

[Forsythia]

Order of the Phoenix + Chamber of Secrets = Order of Secrets

Yer a wizard, Rey!

@Millicent the Cat

The "Order of Secrets" wordplay sounds more like a title you'd find on a Michael Giacchino soundtrack than John Williams.

"There’s Still Good In Him/End Credits" sounds very fake to me, too, and I doubt LF would allow such a spoilery title for the last track when the soundtrack is released about the same time as the film and could accidentally be sold early or spoiled by anyone who's working in packaging (and I think with TFA we even had an official track list before the film was released?).

[Tex]

Guys the Reylo theme on that track list isnt "The Prince and the Scavenger". It's "Bombs Away".

[rey09]

Yeah I got excited for a sec but it's too good to be true- like I know Kylo is "like a prince" and technically is, but in the context of the story, he really isn't a prince, whereas Rey IS a scavenger. It reminds me a lot of when the finale episode title of GOT came out "The dragon and the wolf" and the jonerys fandom exploded bahaha. Hopefully we still get our reylo epic theme moment.

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