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Post by Gemlake Sat 13 Apr 2019, 8:51 am

@vaderito Your analysis is compelling, no question.  I think all of us here can agree that this is not the start of a "final battle" between Rey and Kylo.

@MindAndMagic:  wonderful summary of what Palpatine's return means for the narrative.  He is the missing link to Kylo's redemption, and, of course, Reylo.  I feel like everything is on course now.

JJ is going to answer a lot of his critics with this movie.  Since most fans didn't see the seeds of Reylo being planted in TFA, they missed the epic story being told.  Fans struggled with Kylo as the Big Bad (because he isn't), with Rey as neither a Solo nor a Skywalker (she really can't be, sorry) and with Rey defeating Kylo in the first movie of a trilogy (it doesn't matter, their destiny isn't tied to defeating the other).  TFA was not the "rehash" that many pronounced, but the start of a very daring and compelling storyline.

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Post by rey09 Sat 13 Apr 2019, 9:22 am

omg guys I was just on gwendy's tumblr and found this- I didn't realize the desert kylo pic was video??

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Post by Teo oswald Sat 13 Apr 2019, 9:42 am

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this image is different from this one

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in the first kylo it is cleaner
the second , he is dirty. I doubt there's a correlation, surely Rey will destroy kylo's ship.
moreover, on Kylo's face it seems to me mud and not sand..
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Post by Lovely_Rose Sat 13 Apr 2019, 9:52 am

I think the picture of him being dirty is right after his scene from the trailer. If we try to fit it into the recent leak, I'm betting that that picture concludes Kylo's time with the Oracle (who may have suggested that he get Rey on his side?) Then the one with him looking much cleaner is after Rey crashes his ship.

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Post by special_cases Sat 13 Apr 2019, 9:54 am

I assume that the shot inside ship is Kylo after Resistance vs FO battle in ACT I. He looks tired and dead in the eyes. (and only Driver can have so MUCH presence while looking so dead in the eyes)

Interesting what will happen with Leia cuz I think that in this shot Rey is saying goodbye to Leia on forest planet and this is their last meeting...

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My theory that it's happening in a dream right before Leia passes away in her sleep (and Rey and Co already have left the planet). Leia's death is the reason Kylo attacks the Resistance - he's hurt, mad etc.
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Post by vaderito Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:04 am

Teo oswald wrote:

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in the first kylo it is cleaner
the second , he is dirty. I doubt there's a correlation, surely Rey will destroy kylo's ship.
moreover, on Kylo's face it seems to me mud and not sand..
@Teo oswald

OK, now that the image is Hi res, it looks like mud so that would be after the fight in the swamp that Jason talked about, when Kylo takes down a group of rebels. it could be a continuation of the fight scene in the snow from the trailer, but mud cannot be from the snow. and jason indicated that he got separated from other FO when the fight happens.

so Kylo here

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is likely after the TIE crash.

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Post by special_cases Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:18 am



@vaderito Why do you think it's the snow planet in the trailer? Looks like there are ashes in the air but no snow.

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Post by shii405 Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:22 am

MrsWindu wrote:@shii405

I’m so happy to see you back here again Smile

This quote could be interpreted several ways. Did the certain script changes mean there were more Rey & Kylo scenes. So John is admitting he’s in some scenes with them right ? Yup I’d love to know how many potential Reylo scenes we’re getting - that’s what I’m curious about
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hahah im always back when there is a new teaser or trailer, i might disappear again, but i will definitely be back full force after first official trailer is dropped in October, and I expect there will be Reylo romance hint in that one. Just like with TLJ trailer. Laughing

I interpreted what John said, that he has been filming this movie but he is shocked with the title, he cannot figure out which part of the story means The Rise of Skywalker. Then he said there were several script changes, I think it means there were script changes in his own scenes, so there might be script changes on Reylo scenes, in which he is not part of, and according to him, there are a lot of Reylo scenes without him. The script changes in Reylo scenes might be the hint of the reason of the IX title, maybe that is what he is thinking.
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Post by AhsokaTano Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:28 am

Wow ladies and gents ! Wow wow wow ! Very Happy What a teaser trailer!! Have been on an absolute high since I saw it and have been obsessing over it and watching it over and over on loop ! Lol!
First all welcome back everyone ! Wonderful to hear from everyone again ! Very Happy
I absolutely loved the teaser ! Not only was it so cool , passionate , exciting but it was nostalgic and had me crying and smiling at the same time by the end .
Ok firstly Rise of skywalker title ( you’re right @Rey09 it wasn’t far off that April fool’s skywalker heir ha ha!). Initially I thought kylo ( his theme over the title reveal ) and/or Rey but now I think it incorporates a lot more than that . Am thinking it also includes a new type of force wielder ? ( just like you suggested @Gemlake ) . It probably has multiple meanings but maybe it’s an ancient term and what will be again - ie one who can force project/travel through time and space much like kylo and Rey seem to be able to do ( force bond )and Luke could too via force hyperspace lanes ? What if “ Jedi/Sith “ gets replaced by “ skywalker “- and this is the term from now on? After all episode 8 was called the last Jedi . I always thought the final film would be called something like rise of the new Jedi but after last Jedi it didn’t make sense - what if this is the new term ? The new force wielders are “ skywalkers “.
First trilogy ends - revenge of SITH ( dark )
Second trilogy - Return of the JEDI
( light )
Third and final trilogy -
Rise of SKYWALKER ( grey - light and dark )

Is this what they meant about controversy and how we view the force and Jedi ? But it does bring it full circle and includes our family of skywalkers but also opens up the term to include everyone else .

So the macguffin is related to the Death Star ( of course lol but I don’t mind this time ha ha!)and probably Palpatine himself ( controversial yet delightful indeed !)his cackle and appearance at the panel at the end sure did put a smile on my face .And this would tie up all three trilogies as the main villain . After all how much do we really know about Palpatine and who he was and what he is capable of ? I agree with you @Rey09 he may be our Sauron here . Aren’t there rumours that the next trilogy ( Weiss and Benioff one ) is old republic era due to something that ties up with episode 9? Maybe Palpatine is more ancient than we think and an incarnation of the dark side or has lived in symbiosis with something that extended his life ? The dark side opens up paths some may consider unnatural as he tells us . Also if they can pull this off about Palpatine they would have the biggest twist of any franchise and it was staring us in the face the whole time because everything was proceeding as he had foreseen . Wonderful!

@Vaderito I love your analysis of the desert scene and initially I thought it was Rey training with Ben but what you’ve said makes perfect sense. Lovers spat , kylo chasing Rey ( and of course he wouldn’t gun her down ) and Rey is like here we go and in true style as he’s showing off she goes for his cockpit with her lightsaber . They are like a bickering couple, she’s walked away , he’s chasing her and showing off and she slashes his tires ie his tie silencer , stranding him . Lol! Gosh even in that tiny interaction between them in
the trailer it’s raw , intense , passionate and sexy . Cannot wait to see more dynamic between them!

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I think if Luke gets resurrected and notice it says maybe in the leak I think there will be a twist to it ie it will be through the world between worlds or it will be temporary for the final battle like in LOTR or he will come back in another form like kanan did as a wolf . Am looking forward to a battle between Rey and Kylo teleporting all over the place - hopefully in zero gravity too with a sexy kiss ! Very Happy
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I initially thought Luke was talking to Kylo but if Star Wars site are saying it’s Rey then am banking it’s a possible epilogue where yes she could be pregnant or it’s like passing on the torch of the Jedi/skywalker legacy .

John And Daisy’s comments bode well for Reylo and FinnRose ( loved how he said she’s my girl regarding Rose on the panel) and loved the reception Rose got too . The whole vibe on the panel was fantastic and fun ! I loved too how JJ confirmed it was about light and dark fighting a greater evil .
What a time to be a fan! I believe this film could unite all aspects of the fandom and have everyone root for kylo and Rey working together to defeat the ultimate evil.
I need this film now lol! Have no idea how am going to wait til December! Lol!

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Post by motherofpearl1 Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:32 am

Is it just me, or does Poe look like a cowboy?
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Post by rawpowah Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:40 am

So if the grassland/Death Star planet is after the desert planet (where we know Kylo is present), then where is Kylo after that part of the movie? What happened to him?
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Post by vaderito Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:43 am

[quote="special_cases"]

@vaderito Why do you think it's the snow planet in the trailer? Looks like there are ashes in the air but no snow.


@special_cases

what's the while thing on the ground?

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if it isn't snow then it's a different planet from snow planet, an ash planet. of the ground is covered with ash. I admit that smoke is coming from something. Causew e know there's a snow planet too. I'm just trying to figure out how many of them are there, if snow and "ash" are snow or there are 2, a snow and an ash.
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Post by Krafty Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:45 am

Holy cow! that was a lot! I am so happy the life has been breathed back into the fandom. Long time no see guys its good to be back!
I have so many feelings and so many more questions.
-Rey's hair, up again. Could what we see of her all be from the beginning of the film or do we think this is her new look throughout?(I heard via Scavengers Hoard I think that Jason or somebody said it was for scenes with Leia and it was for continuity)
-Luke talking, could he be speaking to Rey and Ben, with a Leia at his side also as a force ghost (because I'm presuming she might die in this final installment).
-So little of Ben/Kylo could he have more of a presents in the film with Rey at his side and showing it would massively spoil?
I'm just so excited! I've missed a lot while on hiatus, I'll be going back to read all the discussions Wink
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Post by cherrylipstick Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:48 am

motherofpearl1 wrote:Is it just me, or does Poe look like a cowboy?
@motherofpearl1

LOL no you're not the only one, I thought the same.
Actually in the new pics Poe reminds me a lot of Nathan Drake and now I can't take him really seriously WinksD
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Post by special_cases Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:50 am

@vaderito I usually bad with this stuff so I trust others when it comes to defining locations\sets. Now I see that there is something that look like snow on the ground.

To be honest I just assumed that this is part of green planet after FO burnt it down...
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Post by californiagirl Sat 13 Apr 2019, 10:56 am

I wouldn't worry too much about the characters that weren't in the teaser, I'm actually surprised how much we got this early on. Rose wasn't in the TLJ trailers, I'm not sure if Holdo or DJ were either. Hux didn't get a prominent spot either. There's only so much they can cram in.

John wasn't in a lot of the Reylo scenes? Nice! I question if he fully knows what went on in them, since some of the cast didn't have access to the full script.

Though I do want to see Kylo team up with the other "good guys" by the end. It really will be the BFG, but with Ben too!
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Post by Casper Sat 13 Apr 2019, 11:00 am

vaderito wrote:Real pretty. he looks so much like Anakin.

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Oh, it moves!  Shocked  I missed that part.

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Post by californiagirl Sat 13 Apr 2019, 11:06 am

Also, it might be tedious, but should we rename this sub-board and some of the threads TROS instead of IX? Boy, this is still weird having an actual name to attach to this thing.
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Post by SheLitAFire Sat 13 Apr 2019, 11:06 am

@californiagirl

Right, I was thinking the same exact thing!
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Post by Lily Snape Sat 13 Apr 2019, 11:14 am

OK, fellow Avatar: The Last Airbender fans— who thinks this will wind up being something like the “Hello, Zuko here” scene?  Smile. Obviously they’re in a slightly different location than the open desert where we see Kylo, but look at them— she’s armed, they’re all wary...

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Post by Kylo Rey Sat 13 Apr 2019, 11:47 am

I’ve been watching the trailer constantly since yesterday. It’s so beautiful. And Rey looks gorgeous in her white outfit. Kylo body slamming that dude down with ONE arm instead of using the lightsaber in his hand is so extra and SO him I love it lol! Anyway I know the “maybe the person piloting the TIE isn’t Kylo but is Poe/KoR/Anakin” speculation is stupid but this comment on Reddit made me laugh

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Post by rey09 Sat 13 Apr 2019, 11:48 am

@Lily Snape o m g. This is THE moment I'm waiting for. The episode when Zuko tries to join is my fave episode ever and have been dying for the same thing to happen with Kylo. It makes me soo gleeful. The level of awkwardness will be too much to handle.

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Post by Armadeus Sat 13 Apr 2019, 11:50 am

Kylo Rey wrote:I’ve been watching the trailer constantly since yesterday. It’s so beautiful. And Rey looks gorgeous in her white outfit. Kylo body slamming that dude down with ONE arm instead of using the lightsaber in his hand is so extra and SO him I love it lol! Anyway I know the “maybe the person piloting the TIE isn’t Kylo but is Poe/KoR/Anakin” speculation is stupid but this comment on Reddit made me laugh

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That comment thread did not end up where I thought it was going to end up.
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Post by grimbergen Sat 13 Apr 2019, 12:09 pm


All this about Kylo's glove,reminds me of the TLJ trailer and the controversy with the rubber glove offering it to someone who was not sure Rey, makes me laugh so much. Very Happy
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