Episode IX: Spoilers and Rumors

motherofpearl1 wrote:Apparently Captain Marvel has had some pretty rotten reviews, which saddens me - I have never been a fan of the comic book character, but Larson is wonderful.

motherofpearl1 wrote:Tell me about it - the so called 'fan' reaction to TLJ makes my blood boil.
TBH my advice to people is ignore reviews, professional or otherwise and judge for yourself.

Kathy Kennedy and Lucasfilm came up with the idea — it wasn't mine — of an episodic Star Wars series called The Mandalorian, done by Jon Favreau.

Disney has a formidable 2019 slate, with Avengers, Lion King, Frozen 2 and Episode IX. How do you manage expectations?

It's always a challenge because — and I say this with love and respect for media — the thing about these big movies is they get a lot of attention, whether positive or negative. So when they don't work, like Solo, the media says it's a failure. I think it was a pretty good movie. It didn't resonate as much as we'd hoped it would, but the press writes it up in a more negative way than I would.

Will Episode IX get Star Wars back on track?

I just got back from the United Kingdom, which is not so united. (Laughs.) I went to the set, and was with J.J. [Abrams], Kathy and the cast. I watched a couple of scenes being shot and then we all had dinner. I have not seen a cut of it yet, but I watch dailies every weekend and send J.J. and Kathy a note every weekend. It's a big deal, and it's going to be terrific.

What will the next Star Wars movie be after Episode IX?

It's all in discussion.

SW_Heroine_Journey wrote:

tukicarreno wrote:
Sigh.. I've been kind of down this week.
I want to remain positive, but I am kind of scared with this secrecy lasting so long. We are almost in March and still no title! We have no idea about anything about episode IX. Nothing! Zilch.. Perhaps, the atmosphere inside Lucasfilm is uncertain? They don't know what to do? How to market this? All I know is that fans might start losing interest if they keep postponing any promo or info.

Also, maybe it's just me, but JJ posting a photo of the supposed trio of Daisy, John and Oscar as wrap-up tweet and nothing about Adam when we know he was there until the last wrap day made me mad. He is one of the main characters too! Also, why can't anyone post a pic of Adam and Daisy BTS on a SW set or party for example? No one ever does! Plus I am sure he was at the party but still no one shared! It's so frustrating.....

Honestly, all this mystery is getting on my nerves. And here I was, believing Rey & Kylo would be the main focus of episode IX promo and now all we are going to get it seems, is the Resistance trio versus Kylo and his First Order. Once again...  Yipeee!   Sorry guys but I had to vent somewhere..

@tukicarreno

Venting is OK, yet I encourage you not to worry.  Big reason why - you have no control over what is occuring, and this is supposed to be fun!

Title - Avengers: Endgame received its title in December...4-5 months prior to the film's release.  I doubt LF/Disney will do that with IX, yet it does show that Disney views this in an interesting manner.  Probably because the film is 10 months away, and the most important audience (unfortunately true) - the general audience...isn't even thinking about films in December now.  I think max is through August now for them.

Marketing - I'm rather certain Disney/LF knows what to do..how to market IX.  We're buying tickets...we're interested.  Fans are getting impatient yes...but they aren't going to lose interest.  And if they do..it's temporary...they will be back when something intrigues them again about IX.  Way too soon to market to the General Audience.

End of shooting photo - JJ can't post a photo of Adam even if he wanted to.  He's a walking spoiler, plus Adam is really social network/photo adverse...so it's a mixture of reasons why.  We're touchy about the trio because of the antis...but we need to relax about how we believe antis will perceive things.  We need to celebrate what is shown too, and really love it when there are fun extras...such as the Nerdist Reylo Star is Born video (which I agree with some who said LF must have known about it, and approved it).  

BTS/Wrap Party/Daisy - The official photo released...it's interesting how we really don't see Daisy, only her side profile. Which is peculiar....I can't decide if it's because of her wanting a form of privacy at this point...or JJ is hiding something...but he felt that he had to show Daisy because she is the obvious established light force user...even though maybe he didn't want to..lol As for the Wrap Party...she was less private than Adam...but she must have said something - "only show the back of my head, or a blurry pic of me" - and it's honoring that privacy request.

Wrap Party/Adam - If he was there, people were respecting his privacy.  He probably made it known...please don't take photos of me, or he said it's OK, but asked it's not shared on social media.  People honored that request.  

We're getting FO and Resistance - because it's safe and obvious to share.  I actually believe we're received easter eggs about Reylo and Bendemption, that we see because we believe and know about it...I won't be surprised that the title, when it is revealed, will be a huge spoiler in nature for Reylos and Bendemptionists...and everyone else is??? or..."I guess that fits with FO and Resistance."

No worries! Have fun with this!!!!

tukicarreno wrote:

SW_Heroine_Journey wrote:

tukicarreno wrote:
Sigh.. I've been kind of down this week.
I want to remain positive, but I am kind of scared with this secrecy lasting so long. We are almost in March and still no title! We have no idea about anything about episode IX. Nothing! Zilch.. Perhaps, the atmosphere inside Lucasfilm is uncertain? They don't know what to do? How to market this? All I know is that fans might start losing interest if they keep postponing any promo or info.

Also, maybe it's just me, but JJ posting a photo of the supposed trio of Daisy, John and Oscar as wrap-up tweet and nothing about Adam when we know he was there until the last wrap day made me mad. He is one of the main characters too! Also, why can't anyone post a pic of Adam and Daisy BTS on a SW set or party for example? No one ever does! Plus I am sure he was at the party but still no one shared! It's so frustrating.....

Honestly, all this mystery is getting on my nerves. And here I was, believing Rey & Kylo would be the main focus of episode IX promo and now all we are going to get it seems, is the Resistance trio versus Kylo and his First Order. Once again...  Yipeee!   Sorry guys but I had to vent somewhere..

@tukicarreno

Venting is OK, yet I encourage you not to worry.  Big reason why - you have no control over what is occuring, and this is supposed to be fun!

Title - Avengers: Endgame received its title in December...4-5 months prior to the film's release.  I doubt LF/Disney will do that with IX, yet it does show that Disney views this in an interesting manner.  Probably because the film is 10 months away, and the most important audience (unfortunately true) - the general audience...isn't even thinking about films in December now.  I think max is through August now for them.

Marketing - I'm rather certain Disney/LF knows what to do..how to market IX.  We're buying tickets...we're interested.  Fans are getting impatient yes...but they aren't going to lose interest.  And if they do..it's temporary...they will be back when something intrigues them again about IX.  Way too soon to market to the General Audience.

End of shooting photo - JJ can't post a photo of Adam even if he wanted to.  He's a walking spoiler, plus Adam is really social network/photo adverse...so it's a mixture of reasons why.  We're touchy about the trio because of the antis...but we need to relax about how we believe antis will perceive things.  We need to celebrate what is shown too, and really love it when there are fun extras...such as the Nerdist Reylo Star is Born video (which I agree with some who said LF must have known about it, and approved it).  

BTS/Wrap Party/Daisy - The official photo released...it's interesting how we really don't see Daisy, only her side profile. Which is peculiar....I can't decide if it's because of her wanting a form of privacy at this point...or JJ is hiding something...but he felt that he had to show Daisy because she is the obvious established light force user...even though maybe he didn't want to..lol As for the Wrap Party...she was less private than Adam...but she must have said something - "only show the back of my head, or a blurry pic of me" - and it's honoring that privacy request.

Wrap Party/Adam - If he was there, people were respecting his privacy.  He probably made it known...please don't take photos of me, or he said it's OK, but asked it's not shared on social media.  People honored that request.  

We're getting FO and Resistance - because it's safe and obvious to share.  I actually believe we're received easter eggs about Reylo and Bendemption, that we see because we believe and know about it...I won't be surprised that the title, when it is revealed, will be a huge spoiler in nature for Reylos and Bendemptionists...and everyone else is??? or..."I guess that fits with FO and Resistance."

No worries! Have fun with this!!!!

@SW_Heroine_Journey

Thanks so much for you reassurance! I appreciate. I will try to stay positive, it's just not easy....
I just have this bad feeling that JJ will destroy everything about Reylo in IX... But I hope I am wrong!

Everything that you posted makes sense though so I will keep my thoughts in check and just wait accordingly. I pray every day everything works out in the end and that JJ did the right thing!

SW_Heroine_Journey wrote:Both of these tells me he is very interested in the voice of women, and this extends to the heroine's journey and the female gaze, which are the heart and soul of Reylo and Bendemption.  

What adds to my feeling that they are what is driving the ST...is I recall how many people/pundits who don't believe in them or are neutral about it - that they are completely lost where the story is going.  It doesn't make sense, if they don't happen.

12 Parsnips wrote:

SW_Heroine_Journey wrote:Both of these tells me he is very interested in the voice of women, and this extends to the heroine's journey and the female gaze, which are the heart and soul of Reylo and Bendemption.  

What adds to my feeling that they are what is driving the ST...is I recall how many people/pundits who don't believe in them or are neutral about it - that they are completely lost where the story is going.  It doesn't make sense, if they don't happen.

@SW_Heroine_Journey
I agree with your whole post, but especially the above. I was astonished that even after TLJ, some BNF are still wondering where the Sith are and complaining that RJ "changed everything JJ did," Disney doesn't have a plan, etc. (I shouldn't have been, because I'd been in this fandom for a while, but there it was.) I am fully prepared now for Ep. IX not to make sense to a lot of people because they are willfully blind--they won't see what they don't want to--and we will be hearing how the ST doesn't make sense and wasn't necessary and ruined the OT for years to come.

But I think for many people, especially in the GA, Ep. IX is going to pull things together so that it clicks (if it hasn't already) and they get the grand overall picture of what's been happening. In fact, my guess is that the part of the fandom that is utterly bewildered at the moment will actually get the picture from the GA's take, and find it's what Reylos have been saying all along. If they do get it then (and some of them still won't), it will acceptable since it comes from outside the fandom per se, but they will never in a million years admit a bunch of fangirls knew what was going on all along.

Mila Lazarus wrote:You know, when people claim that Reylo is dead because of how TLJ ends, I wonder if at the time of the OT, people thought that HanLeia was over because Han was frozen in carbonite and had answered « I know » instead of « I love you too »?

Personally I’m sure that there will be at least a non-romantic Reylo: the recognition of a deep, special connection that is, as Jason Fry stated, beyond romance... But as I told someone who accused me of being pro Reylo as if it was a sort of crime (lol!), I’m pro romance, that’s it! I’d be gutted if this saga was the first SW saga not to feature any romance at all... I especially hope Abrams won’t fall in the stereotype « bad*** girls don’t need a boyfriend », as if love had anything to do with need...

Teo oswald wrote:

@californiagirl
in fact, neither do I worry. I was not shaken even when they told Vanity Fair that there would be no romance.
In every film (at least the great majority) there is a hint of love.
Star wars is full of love, not always in the form we want, but it's always there. Friendship, maternal love, passionate love

justyou wrote:

Teo oswald wrote:

@californiagirl
in fact, neither do I worry. I was not shaken even when they told Vanity Fair that there would be no romance.
In every film (at least the great majority) there is a hint of love.
Star wars is full of love, not always in the form we want, but it's always there. Friendship, maternal love, passionate love  

@Teo oswald

What's this about Vanity Fair and no romance?

FIVE THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN THE LAST JEDI
A big, central-to-the-plot romance. For all the fan-fiction fantasies of “Reylo” (an imagined union of Daisy Ridley’s Rey and Adam Driver’s Kylo Ren) or “Stormpilot” (the same, for John Boyega’s ex-stormtrooper Finn and Oscar Isaac’s pilot Poe Dameron), Johnson says that The Last Jedi offers “no one-to-one equivalent of the Han-to-Leia, burning, unrequited love. In our story, that’s not a centerpiece.”

Moonlight13 wrote:

justyou wrote:

Teo oswald wrote:

@californiagirl
in fact, neither do I worry. I was not shaken even when they told Vanity Fair that there would be no romance.
In every film (at least the great majority) there is a hint of love.
Star wars is full of love, not always in the form we want, but it's always there. Friendship, maternal love, passionate love  

@Teo oswald

What's this about Vanity Fair and no romance?

@justyou
In May, 2017, Vanity Fair published this article:
What’s in Star Wars: The Last Jedi—and What’s Not

FIVE THINGS THAT ARE NOT IN THE LAST JEDI
A big, central-to-the-plot romance. For all the fan-fiction fantasies of “Reylo” (an imagined union of Daisy Ridley’s Rey and Adam Driver’s Kylo Ren) or “Stormpilot” (the same, for John Boyega’s ex-stormtrooper Finn and Oscar Isaac’s pilot Poe Dameron), Johnson says that The Last Jedi offers “no one-to-one equivalent of the Han-to-Leia, burning, unrequited love. In our story, that’s not a centerpiece.”

Everyone thought Reylo had been debunked. The truth was that they misinterpreted Rian's words, and due to all the confusion around the article, the journalist tweeted his quotes:



He didn't say there was no romance, he basically said it was different. #romancegate

Thanks! I thought maybe it was about IX and was gonna be sad. wrote:

Teo oswald wrote:@justyou

Thanks! I thought maybe it was about IX and was gonna be sad. wrote:

Yes, maybe I should have explained a little better, it was not my intention to make you sad. sorry for that.
in any case there will certainly be romance in the next episode oh oh oh