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Post by ladyconsular Wed 19 Jul 2017, 12:53 pm

I keep thinking Kylo will attack them, then be a willing prisoner that makes them wonder if he's a spy, then he helps them, pretends to betray them and then fully joins them at the end. Basically we won't know what he's deciding until the final moments.

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Post by FrolickingFizzgig Wed 19 Jul 2017, 12:55 pm

Alright, so this is what I'm currently seeing as the "intros" to some of the major plot strands:

On Ahch-To Luke asks Rey who the heck she, snatches Anakin's lightsaber out of her hand and possibly orders that she leave. Rey is upset and a little distraught when she is faced with the notion that Luke--the Jedi master whom she thought she was going to retrieve--turns out to be nothing like she imagined.

Finn wakes up in some kind of suit, healed after his ordeal with Kylo on SKB. Turns out he's now infamous in the Resistance and considered a hero. He's still unsure about his role in the Resistance, but embraces his popularity and ends up on some kind of mission with a nobody mechanic who may lose her much more accomplished sister in an accident.

Kylo goes to meet with Snoke fully garbed in his helmet and with a new cape. He ends up having some kind of intense conversation or confrontation with Snoke that leads to Snoke possibly melting his helmet. Kylo ends up in the elevator and finishes the job of smashing the helmet himself. He's more convinced than ever that he has something to prove, but is also completely lost because he was wrong that killing Han would rid him of his conflict.
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Post by Cowgirlsamurai Wed 19 Jul 2017, 12:59 pm

snufkin wrote:@Cowgirlsamurai - no need for restraints, just guilt from Mommy.
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Aww, mommy guilt is all over his face in that shot too I love you
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Post by Rei of Sunshine Wed 19 Jul 2017, 1:07 pm

Cowgirlsamurai wrote:
Darth_Awakened wrote:Don't forget that Bothan spy also didn't drop off the possibility of Kylo being a prisoner during hut exploding scene.
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How would Kylo be kept prisoner, though? Some kind of Force resistant restraints? Laughing
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[size=46]A wild ysalamir appears out of nowhere and is kept around Kylo at all times. Lol I know ysalamirs are EU stuff. [/size]


[size=46]But man if they could've incorporated the Chiss it would've been fun.
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Post by ZioRen Wed 19 Jul 2017, 1:11 pm

Total speculation, but the idea intrigued me. I saw a post on Tumblr that theorized that perhaps Leia's end comes about because she sacrifices herself to save Kylo. As in a sort of Force "draining" or "life swap" to save him, which puts her in the long ago reported coma. And in this case, would end up with her probably dying when that wasn't the plan before.

For me, that seems like one of the better and more meaningful ways to have Leia go, since her son's redemption is almost guaranteed afterwards. Then again, I can see audiences getting MAJORLY pissed that Kylo was the cause of both Han and Leia's deaths in the end.
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Post by ladyconsular Wed 19 Jul 2017, 1:15 pm

ZioRen wrote:Total speculation, but the idea intrigued me. I saw a post on Tumblr that theorized that perhaps Leia's end comes about because she sacrifices herself to save Kylo. As in a sort of Force "draining" or "life swap" to save him, which puts her in the long ago reported coma. And in this case, would end up with her probably dying when that wasn't the plan before.

For me, that seems like one of the better and more meaningful ways to have Leia go, since her son's redemption is almost guaranteed afterwards. Then again, I can see audiences getting MAJORLY pissed that Kylo was the cause of both Han and Leia's deaths in the end.
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Leia will likely finish what Han began with bringing Kylo to the light, but I do wonder if she'll die in this one or we only find out in IX she died.

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Post by vaderito Wed 19 Jul 2017, 1:24 pm

It seems to me that "long reported coma" was false. Jason even said in one of older podcasts that he has seen no evidence of it, and judging by Leia's appearance on Crait, it never happened. @ZioRen

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On Ahch-To Luke asks Rey who the heck she, snatches Anakin's lightsaber out of her hand and possibly orders that she leave. Rey is upset and a little distraught when she is faced with the notion that Luke--the Jedi master whom she thought she was going to retrieve--turns out to be nothing like she imagined.

yes and they spend the time on Ahch-to until she leaves or they leave together but it curently looks like only she and Chewie make it to the Resistance. There was this lego set rumor that shows Luke, Kylo and Kylo's TIE Fighter. Could they go in one direction and Rey and Chewie in another? or could either or both be with Rey but images don't reveal it? Considering that Kylo/Leia are now a real possibility.


Finn wakes up in some kind of suit, healed after his ordeal with Kylo on SKB. Turns out he's now infamous in the Resistance and considered a hero. He's still unsure about his role in the Resistance, but embraces his popularity and ends up on some kind of mission with a nobody mechanic who may lose her much more accomplished sister in an accident.

Finn is actually the easiest to track cause we have scenes with him from the beginning (coma on D'Qar) to the end (gunner/pilot costume and new hair on Crait). Ditto Rose, from D'Qar to Crait. In between, they fly in a transport pod, go to Canto Bight's casino and prison, are chased by speeders while riding a space horse, break DJ out of prison, pretend to be FO officers on Snoke's mega ship, Finn fights Phasma and gives her Skywalker special, he and Rose return to Crait and get new hair, and he gets gunner uniform presumably to fight in the battle.

Kylo goes to meet with Snoke fully garbed in his helmet and with a new cape. He ends up having some kind of intense conversation or confrontation with Snoke that leads to Snoke possibly melting his helmet. Kylo ends up in the elevator and finishes the job of smashing the helmet himself. He's more convinced than ever that he has something to prove, but is also completely lost because he was wrong that killing Han would rid him of his conflict.

So he fights on D'Qar with his mighty TIE Fighter, than goes to Ahch-to with some drunken knights who get their butts kicked, likely ends up a sorta prisoner to Luke and rey until Luke blows up the hut (that may allow him to escape but maybe they all get shown the door by Guardians of the Whills and end up on crait or Rey ends up on Crait and Kylo who knows. Then Luke goes for Snoke and Rey for Kylo.





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