Episode IX: Spoilers and Rumors

loversinthestorm wrote:I don’t know them well enough but I was under the impression that he was pro / neutral to reylo and she is completely against. Leaks analysis are just speculation and depends on who is speculating of course, the important is just the information. I personally am expecting for evil kylo marketing (with the Asian marketing being a little more truthful) so we can be surprised as an audience. I would be more nervous if they teased the redemption too much because that would Probably mean they would subvert our expectations (kind of like they joked with Rey skywallker a lot).

Saracene wrote:

So basically, Rey and Kylo will have nothing to do with each other for 90% of the film, and their relationship will stay completely static throughout, according to the "experts" who totally predicted TLJ

kroi wrote:

Actually it could just mean they were deciding which scenes it looked best in, though I am now laughing thinking of him wearing it while shirtless w/ his high waist pants!!

As far as the mask goes, I really don't understand the dismay over it.... JJ started Reylo in TFA w/ Kylo wearing a mask. Him wearing it again doesn't signal no redemption or no romance with Rey. Also the leaker added more about it's look; "It definitely looked like it was broken and put back together with the red stuff. The lines were kinda thin. It kinda reminded me of the look of a porcelain vase that was broken and put back together if that makes sense."

When I first heard of it honestly I was excited, because it sounds like Kintsugi...
"The kintsugi technique suggests many things. We shouldn’t throw away broken objects. When an object breaks, it doesn’t mean that it is no more useful. Its breakages can become valuable. We should try to repair things because sometimes in doing so we obtain more valuable objects. This is the essence of resilience. Each of us should look for a way to cope with traumatic events in a positive way, learn from negative experiences, take the best from them and convince ourselves that exactly these experiences make each person unique, precious."
https://www.lifegate.com/people/lifestyle/kintsugi
"This repair method celebrates each artifact’s unique history by emphasizing its fractures and breaks instead of hiding or disguising them. Kintsugi often makes the repaired piece even more beautiful than the original, revitalizing it with new life."
& "Namely, the practice is related to the Japanese philosophy of wabi-sabi, which calls for seeing beauty in the flawed or imperfect. The repair method was also born from the Japanese feeling of mottainai, which expresses regret when something is wasted, as well as mushin, the acceptance of change."
https://mymodernmet.com/kintsugi-kintsukuroi/
A Christian piece about Kintsugi & Redemption: http://kinstugi.blogspot.com/2015/05/kintsugi-and-power-of-forgiveness-and.html

And:
"There is a Japanese art form called Kintsugi that I think is a beautiful metaphor for this redemptive process. Kintsugi is the process of fixing broken pottery with a lacquer resin sprinkled with powdered gold. The story goes that in the 15th century, the Shogun of Japan sent a damaged Chinese tea bowl to China to be repaired. When it was returned with ugly metal staples, Japanese craftsmen came up with a more aesthetic means of repair. Hence, Kintsugi. Because of the gold linings, the new pottery becomes even more valuable than the old unbroken pottery.

I wonder if the same is true for us. We all experience brokenness, sometimes in very painful ways. But I believe there is also hope for repair, healing, and redemption. If you are a person of faith, perhaps you view God as an integral part of this process. And when the process is complete, the new version of yourself may be even more valuable than the old."
https://www.joshuanhook.com/kintsugi/

maybe... we see Rey go to Ilum to find a lightsaber crystal so she can build a double sided saber?! I wish. lol..

californiagirl wrote:A snowy planet, a jungle/forest planet, that grassy planet Poe and Finn were on, a desert planet that is apparently not Jakku-this movie will really go everywhere it seems.

...Nowadays it’s like working for some secret deep state government organization, like being in the CIA. They’re going to send rewrites over to Prague on this dark red paper that gives you a headache to read.”....During filming for The Last Jedi, Hamill noted he was allowed to keep a paper script. Not so for the Episode IX.

“They’re going to fly [the rewrites] over with somebody from the company,” Hamill said. “They’re going to come and give it to me and wait for me to read it before I give it back. So no pressure! You can’t even keep it overnight. But that’s the way it is now.”

Hamill said he spent about a week on Episode IX previously and will return for more shooting amid his Knightfall schedule.

motherofpearl1 wrote:Just about every review of TLJ praised the 'dynamic' relationship between Rey and Kylo, and many claimed their on screen chemistry the best thing in the film.
And let's face it....JJ set it all in motion for Rian to develop. The bridal carry, the sexy unmasking, Max's little speech to Rey about 'belonging'....that was JJ.
I refuse to believe he will not 'finish what he started'.

PalmettoBlue wrote:Y'all, I'm ridiculous. I've gotten to the point where I don't even want to hear about it if someone says Kylo is embracing evil, that he's just going to continue getting worse.
Did we not watch the same film?
I'm just - tired of that line of thought.

californiagirl wrote:@fuhry Fourth desert planet, if we're counting Jedha, which was actually filmed in the same place they shot for this planet in IX. According to MSW, they consider it more of a rocky planet.

They are also apparently back in Black Park. There's lots of photos of sets and scenery here.

https://makingstarwars.net/2018/12/star-wars-episode-ix-rumors-back-in-black-turtles-castles-and-13-dazzling-photos/

motherofpearl1 wrote:If there is one thing I would like to see it's Luke asking Kylo to forgive him.
Then maybe Kylo can do the same.

californiagirl wrote:@tukicarreno Probably just emphasizes how super-secret their parts are. It's promising, if anything.