Episode IX: Spoilers and Rumors

AhsokaTano wrote:@Mila Lazarus
Interesting..am hoping at the end it will be Adam and daisy and John - the trio of this trilogy( although Kyla is antagonist too).

Makng Star Wars wrote:Sometime ago, I spoke to a source about Star Wars: Episode IX who told me that things would get interesting for Kylo Ren when a threat from The Beyond reveals itself, making Kylo Ren vulnerable. This threat would serve as a motivating factor for Kylo and Rey’s interactions as the story progressed but the source wasn’t sure which act it happened in or how it unfolded. It should be noted that a lot of what that source told me, in terms of accuracy, has come to fruition since that conversation. However, with just that info in hand, the understandable but knee jerk assumptions from fans would likely have gone right to the Expanded Universe and The Yuuzhan Vong. Now, I think I may have got the information that relieves that ambiguity a bit more.

Very recently, another source with a great track record said it was really important that The Knights of Ren have returned from The Beyond. The pregnant pause after that bit of information has led me to believe there’s a lot to that. The fact that there is some plot significance to the Knights of Ren in the film is something else most sources have also echoed.

Another rumor I have heard a few times pertains to those red troopers I wrote about sometime ago. I have heard that the red troopers are called “Sith Stormtroopers.” Now, are they called that behind the scenes because Kylo is actually a Sith Lord now or do we have a game of synonyms at play where “evil” is the same as “Sith”? Anyways, the pertinent info here is that these red troopers answer only to Kylo Ren and The Knights of Ren exclusively. Maybe they’re just the Knights of Ren’s infantry?

It also seems that in Episode IX Kylo has accumulated private armies and militias under The First Order banner to strengthen any opposition to his rule. Worlds that have their own defense forces are also aligned with The First Order. So it sounds like the scope of the battles in the film could be pretty large and not just have the rebellion fighting against white Stormtroopers.

Do these rumors connect? Let us speculate that they do as they really might connect like this. It would seem Kylo Ren is putting together a large force to dominate the galaxy. But the first rumor says that a threat from The Beyond eventually reunites Kylo Ren with Rey (who seems to pretty much have the same hair as last time, by the way). Maybe the Knights of Ren are like The Sith. Perhaps the #2 person of power in the knight’s order knows that they have to kill Kylo to become The Supreme Leader and things get out of control for Kylo as the Knights of Ren, now generals of The First Order, try and usurp The Supreme Leader just like Kylo Ren did in The Last Jedi? This is pure speculation on my part, but if these rumors are all accurate, that could potentially be how these things connect together.

Remember, these are real rumors that have come with information that has been validated in various aspects of Star Wars on screen. So the rumors by themselves have validity. The connective tissue between them was speculation about how they connect, assuming all the building blocks to that narrative have been interpreted correctly.

Man Without A Star wrote:Threat from the Beyond? The source of the Dark Side that was mentioned in Aftermath?

DeeBee wrote:@ISeeAnIsland - interesting, thanks for sharing!
I guess we'll see... for me, 'Sith Stormtroopers' sounds meh. Let the past die! (LOL). (I agree @Night Huntress !)
Rey's hair is the same huh.. hmm.. I guess this is something the marketing can't help but show us, so we'll know if this remains possibly legit soon enough...  
@ladyMxx @Man Without A Star
I've gotta read the aftermath trilogy again! I want to revisit what goes on with the observatory too..
Yupe Tashu was creepy as, and I'm a sucker for any of the Knights of Ren or Acolytes of the Beyond stuff!
But.. I'm looking forward to whatever they come up with IX!

Mila Lazarus wrote:

DeeBee wrote:@ISeeAnIsland - interesting, thanks for sharing!
I guess we'll see... for me, 'Sith Stormtroopers' sounds meh. Let the past die! (LOL). (I agree @Night Huntress !)
Rey's hair is the same huh.. hmm.. I guess this is something the marketing can't help but show us, so we'll know if this remains possibly legit soon enough...  
@ladyMxx @Man Without A Star
I've gotta read the aftermath trilogy again! I want to revisit what goes on with the observatory too..
Yupe Tashu was creepy as, and I'm a sucker for any of the Knights of Ren or Acolytes of the Beyond stuff!
But.. I'm looking forward to whatever they come up with IX!

@DeeBee

What are the Aftermath trilogy exactly? Are they the ones that tell how Snoke watched Ben even before he was born?

About the last MSW rumour, I'm very suspiscious about this "Sith Troopers" thing. Why would Kylo want to call his personal army like that? He's not a Sith and claimed quite clearly that he didn't want to be one. It doesn't make very much sense...

AhsokaTano wrote:Have been thinking about these MSW leaks and the source of the darkside etc - the grysks could just be the servant of chaos /origin of darkside . The origin could be Abeloth ,bringer of chaos herself . If the other EU mortis gods are now canon who is to say Abeloth isn’t ?Wasn’t there an Easter egg of Abeloth ( one of her avatars )in Solo - a Star Wars story( the tentacle creature in the abyss).?Also wasn’t there talk before last Jedi about Rey and her connection to the bringer of chaos and bringing about Armageddon and Kylo took her place to prevent this ? Am sure it was on this forum where it came up but don’t remember where . It was on a podcast I remember that bit . Anyway it’s possible that those snippets of info were all about Abeloth. Here’s a link if you want to read up more about it . Am not saying it’s happening but the leaks just made me think of this :
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Abeloth

Edit - basically Abeloth is like a female Sauron and the grysks could be like orcs ( lord of the rings ).

AhsokaTano wrote:https://makingstarwars.net/2019/02/what-is-star-wars-episode-ixs-macguffin/

There’s more just arrived from MSW- what could the item be? The dark saber? The sphere object that was in Poe comics that had to be opened by a dark and a light sider that Lor San Tekka was after on Neimodia ( that could be link with prequels ).

AhsokaTano wrote:@ladyMxx
Probably . Could be something else ? Gosh MSW are on a roll with the leaks . I reckon that’s why we had so many faf leaks in the lead up to this .Its weird - when you get genuine leaks you get a barrage of faf ones in the lead up - almost as if Lucasfilm want to direct your focus elsewhere .... thing is people are gonna listen to MSW even though some of their leaks are rumour and speculation too.