Re: ARCHIVE: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors - 3

by FrolickingFizzgig Wed 18 May 2016, 3:19 pm

teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:TBH it is better than I expected.
@AnneNeville
Right!? Why is everybody freaking out? Kylo and Rey reunite early on and the two are left alone with Luke on Ahch-To? At first he's furious but later they have a conversation? Sounds good to me. Sign me right up.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Actually this doesn't seem to be the case. A member at the other place who seems to have some insider knowledge has said that the scene would finish with Rey & Luke fleeing with the Falcon. If I remember correctly he has predicted a couple of things in advance so he has a level of credibility.

@teltaru
Well, we'll see. I'm not particularly attached to any outcome or plot-point. Not a "headcanon" person. I interpret, but I highly doubt they'll be leaving Ahch-To permanently, not the site of the first Jedi Temple.

by **Kessel** Wed 18 May 2016, 3:20 pm

I really want to know when in the movie this scene takes place. Fairly early is the general assumption? The MSW report theorizes that the duel may contine in a Jedi ruin site Luke and Rey visit, that Kylo may run inside the location Luke and Rey are heading towards.

I can't wait for the next MSW podcast as I'm sure they'll be going into more detail about the rumors and their theories.

by AnneNeville Wed 18 May 2016, 3:20 pm

http://annenevillereviews.tumblr.com/post/142713925553/annenevillereviews-the-evolution-of-a-villain

See the link for my screencaps and explanation. On mobile and cannot directly post them here. I'd appreciate if one of you would reply and insert them for me.

by EchoBase Wed 18 May 2016, 3:23 pm

http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/05/even-more-star-wars-episode-viii-set-details-and-new-photos-from-cork.html

by teltaru Wed 18 May 2016, 3:24 pm

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:TBH it is better than I expected.
@AnneNeville
Right!? Why is everybody freaking out? Kylo and Rey reunite early on and the two are left alone with Luke on Ahch-To? At first he's furious but later they have a conversation? Sounds good to me. Sign me right up.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Actually this doesn't seem to be the case. A member at the other place who seems to have some insider knowledge has said that the scene would finish with Rey & Luke fleeing with the Falcon. If I remember correctly he has predicted a couple of things in advance so he has a level of credibility.
@teltaru
Well, we'll see. I'm not particularly attached to any outcome or plot-point. Not a "headcanon" person. I interpret, but I highly doubt they'll be leaving Ahch-To permanently, not the site of the first Jedi Temple.

@FrolickingFizzgig

Sure, I just wanted to point out that they are likely to get separated once more after the encounter. I doubt this would be an Act III scene and it's very likely that we return to Ahch-To later on.

by naberrie93 Wed 18 May 2016, 3:29 pm

I'm just thinking in the possibilities. Their fight is too personal! Kylo doesn't even think in his uncle Luke, he just focus in Rey...
Maybe Kylo wants to prove himself that he doesn't has feeling for Rey by attempting to kill her and maybe he thinks he kills her. Maybe he see her fall in that cliff?

I don't know. I CAN'T WAIT.

by FrolickingFizzgig Wed 18 May 2016, 3:30 pm

teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:TBH it is better than I expected.
@AnneNeville
Right!? Why is everybody freaking out? Kylo and Rey reunite early on and the two are left alone with Luke on Ahch-To? At first he's furious but later they have a conversation? Sounds good to me. Sign me right up.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Actually this doesn't seem to be the case. A member at the other place who seems to have some insider knowledge has said that the scene would finish with Rey & Luke fleeing with the Falcon. If I remember correctly he has predicted a couple of things in advance so he has a level of credibility.
@teltaru
Well, we'll see. I'm not particularly attached to any outcome or plot-point. Not a "headcanon" person. I interpret, but I highly doubt they'll be leaving Ahch-To permanently, not the site of the first Jedi Temple.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Sure, I just wanted to point out that they are likely to get separated once more after the encounter. I doubt this would be an Act III scene and it's very likely that we return to Ahch-To later on.

@teltaru
It sounds like an end of Act I/beginning of Act II scene to me. There have been reliable rumours that Rey will have her hair down for a good portion of the film, and her hair is still up in this spoiler scene.

by vaderito Wed 18 May 2016, 3:31 pm

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
We're definitely missing stuff. Might have been filmed in Pinewood. We'll see. But the funny thing is antis are going to take this as proof of Kylo evil4ever, betraying how little they understand storytelling. It's actually so incredibly pro-redemption/pro-Reylo in terms of narrative set-up. Perfect introduction to a development-rich story:

> It seems to take place early on in the movie, with Rey's hair still up.
> Kylo isn't wearing his mask. Maskless Kylo = BIG DEAL. NO MASK on Ahch-To.
> Kylo's villainy is redefined early on. That means massive development will ensue within this movie itself.
> Massive development will likely involve the girl he went right for instead of his uncle.
> It's personal, as it has been since they met.
> Epic battle in the rain by the dark ocean. Imagine two saber colours glowing in the dark.
> Rey disappears and Kylo retreats. Rey is separated from Luke. Rey, Luke and Kylo are alone on Ahch-To.
> The next rumour we have is Rey and Kylo having a... conversation?
> How do we get from point A to point B? Rey falling and Kylo and Rey having a conversation Luke doesn't like?

Honestly, all the lovey-dovey stuff was pure fanfiction. That is not what these two will be. That is not this story. There's a reason I never took part in those discussions...

@FrolickingFizzgig

Oh, who cares about antis? They thought that Rey would hook up with Poe but she's spending time on Ahch-to with...Kylo. They thought VIII would be Adventures of Rey and Finn but he's spending time with KMT while she's spending time on Ahch-to with...Kylo. Yeah. Laughing

by Gemini Wed 18 May 2016, 3:33 pm

Yep...No mask, I said millions of times that she changed the future already and I always doubted that he would have his mask on..its a constant reminder to Rey as well, that she did this to his face during the new fight on the cliff..Its a reminder of why he is fighting her.

by EchoBase Wed 18 May 2016, 3:33 pm

teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:TBH it is better than I expected.
@AnneNeville
Right!? Why is everybody freaking out? Kylo and Rey reunite early on and the two are left alone with Luke on Ahch-To? At first he's furious but later they have a conversation? Sounds good to me. Sign me right up.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Actually this doesn't seem to be the case. A member at the other place who seems to have some insider knowledge has said that the scene would finish with Rey & Luke fleeing with the Falcon. If I remember correctly he has predicted a couple of things in advance so he has a level of credibility.
@teltaru
Well, we'll see. I'm not particularly attached to any outcome or plot-point. Not a "headcanon" person. I interpret, but I highly doubt they'll be leaving Ahch-To permanently, not the site of the first Jedi Temple.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Sure, I just wanted to point out that they are likely to get separated once more after the encounter. I doubt this would be an Act III scene and it's very likely that we return to Ahch-To later on.

@teltaru

But MH was also spotted in Dubrovnik (Space Vegas), so somehow he has to leave Ahch-to. Very unlikely, that that he and Rey return later then are attacked by Kylo and his gang, I assume that this fight will take place very early in the film.

by Blackcanary Wed 18 May 2016, 3:36 pm

EchoBase wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:TBH it is better than I expected.
@AnneNeville
Right!? Why is everybody freaking out? Kylo and Rey reunite early on and the two are left alone with Luke on Ahch-To? At first he's furious but later they have a conversation? Sounds good to me. Sign me right up.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Actually this doesn't seem to be the case. A member at the other place who seems to have some insider knowledge has said that the scene would finish with Rey & Luke fleeing with the Falcon. If I remember correctly he has predicted a couple of things in advance so he has a level of credibility.
@teltaru
Well, we'll see. I'm not particularly attached to any outcome or plot-point. Not a "headcanon" person. I interpret, but I highly doubt they'll be leaving Ahch-To permanently, not the site of the first Jedi Temple.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Sure, I just wanted to point out that they are likely to get separated once more after the encounter. I doubt this would be an Act III scene and it's very likely that we return to Ahch-To later on.
@teltaru

But MH was also spotted in Dubrovnik (Space Vegas), so somehow he has to leave Ahch-to. Very unlikely, that that he and Rey return later then are attacked by Kylo and his gang, I assume that this fight will take place very early in the film.

@EchoBase

Which suggest that Rey's feelings towards him change very early...

*Ponders*

by teltaru Wed 18 May 2016, 3:37 pm

EchoBase wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:TBH it is better than I expected.
@AnneNeville
Right!? Why is everybody freaking out? Kylo and Rey reunite early on and the two are left alone with Luke on Ahch-To? At first he's furious but later they have a conversation? Sounds good to me. Sign me right up.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Actually this doesn't seem to be the case. A member at the other place who seems to have some insider knowledge has said that the scene would finish with Rey & Luke fleeing with the Falcon. If I remember correctly he has predicted a couple of things in advance so he has a level of credibility.
@teltaru
Well, we'll see. I'm not particularly attached to any outcome or plot-point. Not a "headcanon" person. I interpret, but I highly doubt they'll be leaving Ahch-To permanently, not the site of the first Jedi Temple.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Sure, I just wanted to point out that they are likely to get separated once more after the encounter. I doubt this would be an Act III scene and it's very likely that we return to Ahch-To later on.
@teltaru

But MH was also spotted in Dubrovnik (Space Vegas), so somehow he has to leave Ahch-to. Very unlikely, that that he and Rey return later then are attacked by Kylo and his gang, I assume that this fight will take place very early in the film.

@EchoBase

Yeah the hair thing sounds pretty convincing. But it can't happen too early, since we know that basically there's no time jump between VII and VIII and Kylo has to recover from his injuries to some extent.

by vaderito Wed 18 May 2016, 3:37 pm

Gemini wrote:Yep...No mask, I said millions of times that she changed the future already and I always doubted that he would have his mask on..its a constant reminder to Rey as well, that she did this to his face during the new fight on the cliff..Its a reminder of why he is fighting her.

@Gemini

Maask = stupid when you have AD's expressive "dangerous dreamboat" face. Twisted Evil

by BastilaBey Wed 18 May 2016, 3:38 pm

@BlackCanary IMO, the thing that she saw in Kylo's head during the interrogation will be something she can't stop thinking about. It's something that led her to be shocked when he killed his father, she called him a monster, she was disappointed in his action. So it has to be something about why he turned, how he still feels conflicted, etc. That hint from MSW seems like the most likely reason for why she won't want to kill him.

by EchoBase Wed 18 May 2016, 3:39 pm

Bactatank. Remember Luke in ESB, he recovered veeeery quickly.

by MissG Wed 18 May 2016, 3:42 pm

EchoBase wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:TBH it is better than I expected.
@AnneNeville
Right!? Why is everybody freaking out? Kylo and Rey reunite early on and the two are left alone with Luke on Ahch-To? At first he's furious but later they have a conversation? Sounds good to me. Sign me right up.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Actually this doesn't seem to be the case. A member at the other place who seems to have some insider knowledge has said that the scene would finish with Rey & Luke fleeing with the Falcon. If I remember correctly he has predicted a couple of things in advance so he has a level of credibility.
@teltaru
Well, we'll see. I'm not particularly attached to any outcome or plot-point. Not a "headcanon" person. I interpret, but I highly doubt they'll be leaving Ahch-To permanently, not the site of the first Jedi Temple.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Sure, I just wanted to point out that they are likely to get separated once more after the encounter. I doubt this would be an Act III scene and it's very likely that we return to Ahch-To later on.
@teltaru

But MH was also spotted in Dubrovnik (Space Vegas), so somehow he has to leave Ahch-to. Very unlikely, that that he and Rey return later then are attacked by Kylo and his gang, I assume that this fight will take place very early in the film.

@EchoBase

Well in that case the "hutslayer" rumor is false? Shouldn't they stay for this to happen?

by **Kessel** Wed 18 May 2016, 3:43 pm

vaderito wrote:
Gemini wrote:Yep...No mask, I said millions of times that she changed the future already and I always doubted that he would have his mask on..its a constant reminder to Rey as well, that she did this to his face during the new fight on the cliff..Its a reminder of why he is fighting her.
@Gemini

Maask = stupid when you have AD's expressive "dangerous dreamboat" face.

@vaderito

Yes, they'll want Kylo's scar and Adam's amazing acting and micro expressions on full display.

This will likely be the first time Rey and Kylo see each other after the SKB duel, and the first time Rey sees his scar. There's defintely going to be some intense dialogue between these two. This duel is going to be so personal.

by vaderito Wed 18 May 2016, 3:44 pm

@MissG Hutslayer is totally different part of Ireland, and huts are scheduled to blow sometime this week. KoR scoop is from malin Head. I think that huts are in Sybil Head.

by teltaru Wed 18 May 2016, 3:45 pm

EchoBase wrote:Bactatank. Remember Luke in ESB, he recovered veeeery quickly.

@EchoBase

Yes, that's a possibility. Just do it off screen please because I'm not sure I can take the sight of Kylo in a diaper. Razz

by EchoBase Wed 18 May 2016, 3:46 pm

MissG wrote:
EchoBase wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
teltaru wrote:
FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
AnneNeville wrote:TBH it is better than I expected.
@AnneNeville
Right!? Why is everybody freaking out? Kylo and Rey reunite early on and the two are left alone with Luke on Ahch-To? At first he's furious but later they have a conversation? Sounds good to me. Sign me right up.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Actually this doesn't seem to be the case. A member at the other place who seems to have some insider knowledge has said that the scene would finish with Rey & Luke fleeing with the Falcon. If I remember correctly he has predicted a couple of things in advance so he has a level of credibility.
@teltaru
Well, we'll see. I'm not particularly attached to any outcome or plot-point. Not a "headcanon" person. I interpret, but I highly doubt they'll be leaving Ahch-To permanently, not the site of the first Jedi Temple.
@FrolickingFizzgig

Sure, I just wanted to point out that they are likely to get separated once more after the encounter. I doubt this would be an Act III scene and it's very likely that we return to Ahch-To later on.
@teltaru

But MH was also spotted in Dubrovnik (Space Vegas), so somehow he has to leave Ahch-to. Very unlikely, that that he and Rey return later then are attacked by Kylo and his gang, I assume that this fight will take place very early in the film.
@EchoBase

Well in that case the "hutslayer" rumor is false? Shouldn't they stay for this to happen?

@MissG

Maybe they will leave afterwards, after the hutslaying scene. With Kylo, to Space Vegas. Yay. Razz

by Sylvia Snow Wed 18 May 2016, 3:47 pm

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This is from manyymedia about the potential title for episode VIII, can someone please confirm this?

by MissG Wed 18 May 2016, 3:48 pm

vaderito wrote:@MissG Hutslayer is totally different part of Ireland, and huts are scheduled to blow sometime this week. KoR scoop is from malin Head. I think that huts are in Sybil Head.

@vaderito

I was more confused about the mention of Dubrovnik and Falcon being on it, but I guess it can happen later on in the movie. Actually now thinking of that, Luke wanting Rey to kill Kylo and then blowing up that hut after seeing/hearing their conversation goes very well together.

by AnneNeville Wed 18 May 2016, 3:49 pm

This suggests that the so-called clan leader is a KoR after all. There won't be two iconic rain battles. This is good for redemption because it means Kylo isn't killing civilians. And the rumor attributes the battlefield bodycount to Luke. And not even evil!Luke. Self Defense!Luke.

This rumor is all good news.

by vaderito Wed 18 May 2016, 3:49 pm

Sylvia Snow wrote:

This is from manyymedia about the potential title for episode VIII, can someone please confirm this?

@Sylvia Snow

No, cause Pablo's tweet about "fake spoilers" is likely about that.

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by AnneNeville Wed 18 May 2016, 3:49 pm

This suggests that the so-called clan leader is a KoR after all. There won't be two iconic rain battles. This is good for redemption because it means Kylo isn't killing civilians. And the rumor attributes the battlefield bodycount to Luke. And not even evil!Luke. Self Defense!Luke.

This rumor is all good news.

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