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Post by Little_Boots Thu 12 May 2016, 8:02 pm

For some bizarre reason, the thought of Snoke following young Ben Solo makes me think of the strange man in the sequel to Poltergeist. He had a Southern American accent I recall and he was ultra creepy! With a weird hat!

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Post by Mana Thu 12 May 2016, 8:05 pm

But the difference between Vader and Palps and Kylo and Snoke is that Palps was Vaders 'master' and he was very devoted to his master. That relationship is very different from the one that Kylo and Snoke have. While Kylo respects Snoke as a teacher, he doesn't seem as attached to him, and willing to do his bidding at every turn as Vader was with Palps...so I'm not sure about Snoke wanting to whip or torture him into submission at this point in time, especially when Kylo's not totally devoted to him
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Post by Mana Thu 12 May 2016, 8:06 pm

Little_Boots wrote:For some bizarre reason, the thought of Snoke following young Ben Solo makes me think of the strange man in the sequel to Poltergeist. He had a Southern American accent I recall and he was ultra creepy! With a weird hat!
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hehe LOL..the poltergeist sequels were a joke....
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Post by panki Thu 12 May 2016, 8:07 pm

Mana wrote:But the difference between Vader and Palps and Kylo and Snoke is that Palps was Vaders 'master' and he was very devoted to his master. That relationship is very different from the one that Kylo and Snoke have. While Kylo respects Snoke as a teacher, he doesn't seem as attached to him, and willing to do his bidding at every turn as Vader was with Palps...so I'm not sure about Snoke wanting to whip or torture him into submission at this point in time, especially when Kylo's not totally devoted to him
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Maybe he'll use force lightning on Kylo? That is used by sith and dark side users to 'train' apprentices.

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Post by Little_Boots Thu 12 May 2016, 8:09 pm

Mana wrote:
Little_Boots wrote:For some bizarre reason, the thought of Snoke following young Ben Solo makes me think of the strange man in the sequel to Poltergeist. He had a Southern American accent I recall and he was ultra creepy! With a weird hat!
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hehe LOL..the poltergeist sequels were a joke....
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True that!! Look at that pic I attached to my post. Boogy Boogy Boogy!!!!
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Post by Mana Thu 12 May 2016, 8:10 pm

panki wrote:
Mana wrote:But the difference between Vader and Palps and Kylo and Snoke is that Palps was Vaders 'master' and he was very devoted to his master. That relationship is very different from the one that Kylo and Snoke have. While Kylo respects Snoke as a teacher, he doesn't seem as attached to him, and willing to do his bidding at every turn as Vader was with Palps...so I'm not sure about Snoke wanting to whip or torture him into submission at this point in time, especially when Kylo's not totally devoted to him
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Maybe he'll use force lightning on Kylo? That is used by sith and dark side users to 'train' apprentices.
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The thing is, we still don't know what Snoke wants to teach Kylo, or has been teaching him all this time. According to the visual dictionary, Snoke actually encourages him to draw strength from the dark and the light side, and believes him to be the focal point of these two sides....
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Post by panki Thu 12 May 2016, 8:15 pm

Mana wrote:
panki wrote:
Mana wrote:But the difference between Vader and Palps and Kylo and Snoke is that Palps was Vaders 'master' and he was very devoted to his master. That relationship is very different from the one that Kylo and Snoke have. While Kylo respects Snoke as a teacher, he doesn't seem as attached to him, and willing to do his bidding at every turn as Vader was with Palps...so I'm not sure about Snoke wanting to whip or torture him into submission at this point in time, especially when Kylo's not totally devoted to him
@Mana

Maybe he'll use force lightning on Kylo? That is used by sith and dark side users to 'train' apprentices.
@panki
The thing is, we still don't know what Snoke wants to teach Kylo, or has been teaching him all this time. According to the visual dictionary, Snoke actually encourages him to draw strength from the dark and the light side, and believes him to be the focal point of these two sides....
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Snoke always says the light side as an afterthought..... I wonder what his actual plan is...... Suspect

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Post by vaderito Thu 12 May 2016, 8:26 pm

Reylo a story of destiny

Rey...Rey...

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A monstah!

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Mmmm

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Marry Me

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Yes!

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With this swing, I thee wed

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What the Force has joined together, let no man separate...not even the Force

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I can heart you heartbeat

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Rey...Rey...I love you

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And I'll find you

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I love your son

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I know

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At night, desperate to sleep, you imagine an ocean. I see it. Iiii see an island.

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It is you.
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Post by snufkin Thu 12 May 2016, 8:34 pm

BastilaBey wrote:@Mana OK maybe this makes me a little sick, but I kind of like the idea of Snoke torturing Kylo because he has compassion for Rey and didn't try to kill her or actually want to bring her to Snoke. That could go a long way with generating sympathy, because he's being punished for feeling something good for our heroine.
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Post by Little_Boots Thu 12 May 2016, 8:37 pm

Does Rey hear a heartbeat when she looks back before boarding the Falcon???
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Post by vaderito Thu 12 May 2016, 8:38 pm

Little_Boots wrote:Does Rey hear a heartbeat when she looks back before boarding the Falcon???
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People say so. So now the theory is that she looks back cause she heard his heartbeat through the Force.
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Post by Little_Boots Thu 12 May 2016, 8:42 pm

vaderito wrote:
Little_Boots wrote:Does Rey hear a heartbeat when she looks back before boarding the Falcon???
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People say so. So now the theory is that she looks back cause she heard his heartbeat through the Force.
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I watched the scene just now, there is definitely a heart beat 100%
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Post by vaderito Thu 12 May 2016, 8:46 pm

cheers cheers cheers cheers cheers
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Post by SoloSideCousin Thu 12 May 2016, 8:56 pm

vaderito wrote:
Little_Boots wrote:Does Rey hear a heartbeat when she looks back before boarding the Falcon???
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People say so. So now the theory is that she looks back cause she heard his heartbeat through the Force.
@vaderito

Every time I think of this heartbeat thing, I think of the following song ... which interestingly enough was last song to be added to Disney's Rey Playlist on Spotify :

"Sound Of Your Heart"

You were my courage, my sword and shield
Grace under pressure, my wall of steel
I was a stone, weighing us down
You were the angel I chained to the ground

I miss the way you undress, I miss your head on my chest
Can't stop this bleeding, can't stop believing

I'm missing the sound of your heart beating
Baby I'm in love with you
I'm missing the sound of your heart beating
Baby you were mine to lose
I'm missing the sound of your heart beating

You showed me heaven, you rang up bells
I played with matches, it hurt like hell
Asleep and wake, you're all I see
I can't escape you, can't set you free
I miss your full moon rising, catching a breath in silence
Can't stop this bleeding, can't stop believing


I'm missing the sound of your heart beating
Baby I'm in love with you
I'm missing the sound of your heart beating
Baby you were mine to lose

I'm missing the sound of your heart beating
Missing you, missing you
I'm missing the sound of your heart beating
Missing you, missing you
I'm missing the sound of your heart beating

[b]Baby I'm coming, baby I'm coming
Tell me now, baby I'll come running
Baby I'm coming, baby I'm coming
Say the words, baby I'll come running
[/b]

Baby I'm in love with you
I'm missing the sound of your heart beating
Baby you were mine to lose
I'm missing the sound of your heart beating

I'm missing the sound, I'm missing the sound of your heart beating, beating
I'm missing the sound of your heart beating

Missing you missing you
I'm missing the sound of your heart beating
Missing you missing you
I'm missing the sound of your heart beating
Beating, beating, I'm missing the sound of your heart beating


http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/shawnhook/soundofyourheart.html


It's probably nothing, but it is interesting that they added it late to the Rey list.  It certainly doesn't refer to Finn ... so maybe ... just maybe ... lol ... anyway, it always makes me think of Kylo coming to Ach-to now.  Very Happy


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Post by IoJovi Thu 12 May 2016, 9:04 pm

Wow, that song is MOST definitely not about Finn!!!

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Post by vaderito Thu 12 May 2016, 9:06 pm

Can't stop this bleeding

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I'm missing the sound of your heart beating

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Scenes of their hearts beating in sync


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Post by BastilaBey Thu 12 May 2016, 11:43 pm

So I've been reading about Letter Never Sent, since Rian Johnson hinted that this was an inspiration for what might be going on in episode 8. And it really does seem to fit with the Ahch-to feel. check this out:

"The cleansing rain creates salvation, and Kalatozov and Urusevsky capture the relief in a way that resembles religious ecstasy. Tanya leans against a tree and lets the water pour over her, and her expression is serene and joyous. The irony, of course, is that the same rain will turn to ice and become their next deadly obstacle. Time and space become immaterial, with seasons seemingly passing overnight and civilization appearing no nearer."

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/53714/letter-never-sent/

Many of us have been talking about the meaning water might have in the next installment - of cleansing, rebirth, emotion - with the island Kylo saw in Rey's mind surrounded by it, the rumored waterfall, the rain, etc. The unrequited love that this Sergei character has seems apt too, of course. Very exciting.
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Post by vaderito Fri 13 May 2016, 8:21 am

BastilaBey wrote:So I've been reading about Letter Never Sent, since Rian Johnson hinted that this was an inspiration for what might be going on in episode 8. And it really does seem to fit with the Ahch-to feel. check this out:

"The cleansing rain creates salvation, and Kalatozov and Urusevsky capture the relief in a way that resembles religious ecstasy. Tanya leans against a tree and lets the water pour over her, and her expression is serene and joyous. The irony, of course, is that the same rain will turn to ice and become their next deadly obstacle. Time and space become immaterial, with seasons seemingly passing overnight and civilization appearing no nearer."

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/53714/letter-never-sent/

Many of us have been talking about the meaning water might have in the next installment - of cleansing, rebirth, emotion - with the island Kylo saw in Rey's mind surrounded by it, the rumored waterfall, the rain, etc. The unrequited love that this Sergei character has seems apt too, of course. Very exciting.
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Sith, Luke the Hutslayer is Sergei! The Force of Nature angry guy!
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Post by Reynak Fri 13 May 2016, 12:28 pm

BastilaBey wrote:So I've been reading about Letter Never Sent, since Rian Johnson hinted that this was an inspiration for what might be going on in episode 8. And it really does seem to fit with the Ahch-to feel. check this out:

"The cleansing rain creates salvation, and Kalatozov and Urusevsky capture the relief in a way that resembles religious ecstasy. Tanya leans against a tree and lets the water pour over her, and her expression is serene and joyous. The irony, of course, is that the same rain will turn to ice and become their next deadly obstacle. Time and space become immaterial, with seasons seemingly passing overnight and civilization appearing no nearer."

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/53714/letter-never-sent/

Many of us have been talking about the meaning water might have in the next installment - of cleansing, rebirth, emotion - with the island Kylo saw in Rey's mind surrounded by it, the rumored waterfall, the rain, etc. The unrequited love that this Sergei character has seems apt too, of course. Very exciting.
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In poetry thirst has often been used as a metaphor for desire, that the person who is always so thirsty longs por passion and love. Remember how thisty Rey is on Jakku and she never has enough water. She goes to Takodana and is transfixed when she sees that planet with so much water and woods. That's where she meets Kylo, in a wood. It may be a simple coincidence but perhaps it represents that she wants something and that something is passion and love, which she finds in a beautiful planet with more water than she has ever seen but she doesn't know yet.
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Post by vaderito Fri 13 May 2016, 12:45 pm

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BastilaBey wrote:So I've been reading about Letter Never Sent, since Rian Johnson hinted that this was an inspiration for what might be going on in episode 8. And it really does seem to fit with the Ahch-to feel. check this out:

"The cleansing rain creates salvation, and Kalatozov and Urusevsky capture the relief in a way that resembles religious ecstasy. Tanya leans against a tree and lets the water pour over her, and her expression is serene and joyous. The irony, of course, is that the same rain will turn to ice and become their next deadly obstacle. Time and space become immaterial, with seasons seemingly passing overnight and civilization appearing no nearer."

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/53714/letter-never-sent/

Many of us have been talking about the meaning water might have in the next installment - of cleansing, rebirth, emotion - with the island Kylo saw in Rey's mind surrounded by it, the rumored waterfall, the rain, etc. The unrequited love that this Sergei character has seems apt too, of course. Very exciting.
@BastilaBey

In poetry thirst has often been used as a metaphor for desire, that the person who is always so thirsty longs por passion and love. Remember how thisty Rey is on Jakku and she never has enough water. She goes to Takodana and is transfixed when she sees that planet with so much water and woods. That's where she meets Kylo, in a wood. It may be a simple coincidence but perhaps it represents that she wants something and that something is passion and love, which she finds in a beautiful planet with more water than she has ever seen but she doesn't know yet.
@Reynak

Now that she found a family (brother figure Finn, father figure Han, mother figure Leia), epic passion and love with Kylo is next.
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Post by ZenBrainJam Fri 13 May 2016, 1:51 pm

Little_Boots wrote:Does Rey hear a heartbeat when she looks back before boarding the Falcon???
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This or she is using the force (her force sound is an heartbeat) for some research of hers Wink
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Post by Sylvia Snow Fri 13 May 2016, 2:25 pm

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My friend just send me this screenshot and said that the tree behind Rey look sort of like a wing and joking that Angel Rey are trying to get Kylo back to the Light with the saber but upon seeing his stubbornness, she decided to take matters into her own hands and defeat him ROFL


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Post by vaderito Fri 13 May 2016, 2:31 pm

@Sylvia Snow

You can see wings (formed by branches) in the SKB vision already:

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So their appearance in the real SKB scene is Easter Egg:

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Good catch! Post that in Easter Eggs thread too.
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Post by Reynak Fri 13 May 2016, 5:53 pm

vaderito wrote:
Reynak wrote:
BastilaBey wrote:So I've been reading about Letter Never Sent, since Rian Johnson hinted that this was an inspiration for what might be going on in episode 8. And it really does seem to fit with the Ahch-to feel. check this out:

"The cleansing rain creates salvation, and Kalatozov and Urusevsky capture the relief in a way that resembles religious ecstasy. Tanya leans against a tree and lets the water pour over her, and her expression is serene and joyous. The irony, of course, is that the same rain will turn to ice and become their next deadly obstacle. Time and space become immaterial, with seasons seemingly passing overnight and civilization appearing no nearer."

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/53714/letter-never-sent/

Many of us have been talking about the meaning water might have in the next installment - of cleansing, rebirth, emotion - with the island Kylo saw in Rey's mind surrounded by it, the rumored waterfall, the rain, etc. The unrequited love that this Sergei character has seems apt too, of course. Very exciting.
@BastilaBey

In poetry thirst has often been used as a metaphor for desire, that the person who is always so thirsty longs por passion and love. Remember how thisty Rey is on Jakku and she never has enough water. She goes to Takodana and is transfixed when she sees that planet with so much water and woods. That's where she meets Kylo, in a wood. It may be a simple coincidence but perhaps it represents that she wants something and that something is passion and love, which she finds in a beautiful planet with more water than she has ever seen but she doesn't know yet.
@Reynak

Now that she found a family (brother figure Finn, father figure Han, mother figure Leia), epic passion and love with Kylo is next.
@vaderito

You can't miss this post I found on Tumblr on Reylo imagery, psycology and the theme of female sexual awakening. You'll love it:

http://reyloeyesofmist.tumblr.com/post/144316895299/female-sexuality-awakens-the
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Post by vaderito Fri 13 May 2016, 6:02 pm

@Reynak THank you! Very Happy

Hey which genius form out forum wrote that? It's brilliant!
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