Re: The Last Jedi Trailer(s)

by Angel Of Iego Tue 16 May 2017, 12:19 am

Did you notice the whispers? When Rey talks about duality of the Force?
Before she says: The light, someone whispers "I love you" (to me it sounded like Rey's voice)
Then Before she says: the Darkness, there's Obiwan's voice about Ani being seduced to the Darkside.

Is there any meaning to this?

by Lily Snape Tue 16 May 2017, 12:30 am

Angel Of Iego wrote:Did you notice the whispers? When Rey talks about duality of the Force?
Before she says: The light, someone whispers "I love you" (to me it sounded like Rey's voice)
Then Before she says: the Darkness, there's Obiwan's voice about Ani being seduced to the Darkside.

Is there any meaning to this?

@Angel Of Iego

I believe the part that some people have heard as a woman's voice saying "I love you" is Leia saying "Help me, Obi-Wan Kenobi." I've seen that same question before, and someone had broken down the sounds and figured that out.

by Gemini Tue 16 May 2017, 1:07 am

A lot is revealed in the first few seconds of the trailer. Just before you meet rey you have obi wans music playing from a new hope (literally note for note) which plays just before you meet him. Reys theme tune is then connected to obi wan and how he resembled hope to leia.(leia from the OT saying "you're my only hope" to obi wan). Rey resembles the same. Then kylos theme is connected to darth Vader breathing.

What's more, millions missed this originally, but obi wans music when Luke meets him in anh actually plays twice just as rey approaches Luke at the end of the force awakens (harp)

Angel Of Iego wrote:Did you notice the whispers? When Rey talks about duality of the Force?
Before she says: The light, someone whispers "I love you" (to me it sounded like Rey's voice)
Then Before she says: the Darkness, there's Obiwan's voice about Ani being seduced to the Darkside.

Is there any meaning to this?

@Angel Of Iego

by AceofWands Tue 16 May 2017, 5:20 pm

AceofWands wrote:Awesome analysis on the music!

The case for I love you. On the whispers in the trailer, when we see Leia, at first I heard I love you, then I heard Help me Oh (assuming it's going to be help me Obi-Wan). I was sure it was help me Obi-Wan. The other day I said the trailer had "I love you" then I wanted to facepalm myself because I had stopped hearing that.

But I started to look into this further. I think it's "I love you" because it matches Padme's pitch, speech and intonation, and doesn't really match Leia's. Another option is that it's both voices put together.

The twist will be Obidala and Luke, Leia, and Kylo will be Obi-Wan's kids and grandkid

Anyways, check it out. The whisper is here, at 46

Padme's "I love you" is here, at 23

Help me Obi-wan is here:

The whispers sound a lot more like Padme's voice. It would mean the 3 whispers would be about Vader. "I love you" (said to Anakin), then Vader's breath, then "seduced by the dark side". So it would be a snipped about Vader or about how Vader fell.
I think it goes well with the reversed Anakin theme about Kylo.

I know many blogs have reported that it's "Help me Obi-Wan" , but I don't think they have any insider info. They are just listening like us. I have awesome headphones. Either way, the comparison with the original voices sealed the deal for me.

And again, it could be the combination of the two voices, but then I can't make any sense out of it other than the shocking Obidala twist.

@AceofWands

@Angel of Iego I believe it's Padme's "I love you", she even mumbles it, no wonder it's incomprehensible. I would guess that this is about Vader, how he also had light.

Obi-Wan's line "seduced by the dark side" is about Vader.

It would be perhaps how Kylo parallels in a way Vader. It actually fits perfectly with the theme of reversed Anakin, if Kylo is to start a love story in this movie, and I believe he will.

Because if it's Help me Obi-Wan, then it's "Help me oh", and it doesn't match the intonation and voice of Leia, as I explained above.

Either way, frankly, I don't really care, it's just that I got curious and that was my conclusion. I don't mind if I'm wrong.

by Guest Thu 18 May 2017, 7:47 am

I realize this is very childish, but whenever I want a good chortle, I look at this fanboy prediction for Kylo's appearance in The Last Jedi.

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The Last Jedi Trailer(s) - Page 12 Mqdefault

Haha. Not quite!

by nemapasara Thu 18 May 2017, 7:58 am

Sacrebleu wrote:I realize this is very childish, but when ever I want a good chortle, I look at this fanboy prediction for Kylo's appearance in The Last Jedi.

Haha. Not quite!

@Sacrebleu

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The one of the right kills me whenever I see it and the tagline for the photo is "What Kylo Ren looks like in the Last Jedi in terrifying!"

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by Helix Thu 18 May 2017, 10:26 am

b-but he's going to become ugly and scarred just like Vader!! Sad

by DarthRen Thu 18 May 2017, 10:40 am

Sacrebleu wrote:I realize this is very childish, but whenever I want a good chortle, I look at this fanboy prediction for Kylo's appearance in The Last Jedi.

Haha. Not quite!

@Sacrebleu

Still looks handsome. Claps

by ZioRen Thu 18 May 2017, 12:46 pm

I still laugh thinking of antis saying his scar would be hideous and that Luke would be some saintly perfect mentor. Meanwhile, on this end, we were saying that the scar wouldn't be disfiguring and that Luke could very well have some more darkness or bitterness to him almost an entire year ago.

Who are the ones who have been consistently right in their predictions for months, again? Hmm... Cool

by snufkin Thu 18 May 2017, 12:58 pm

Ha, yeah so who's been writing the actual fan fiction?

by ReyofLightSide Thu 18 May 2017, 1:39 pm

Sacrebleu wrote:I realize this is very childish, but whenever I want a good chortle, I look at this fanboy prediction for Kylo's appearance in The Last Jedi.

Haha. Not quite!

@Sacrebleu

lmao why did he lose his hair, too??

by IoJovi Thu 18 May 2017, 2:04 pm

ReyofLightSide wrote:
Sacrebleu wrote:I realize this is very childish, but whenever I want a good chortle, I look at this fanboy prediction for Kylo's appearance in The Last Jedi.

Haha. Not quite!
@Sacrebleu

lmao why did he lose his hair, too??

@ReyofLightSide

Um........ They HAVE seen the images that have been released right? lol!

They know this is all in their imagination... right?

by Guest Thu 18 May 2017, 6:50 pm

IoJovi wrote:
ReyofLightSide wrote:
Sacrebleu wrote:I realize this is very childish, but whenever I want a good chortle, I look at this fanboy prediction for Kylo's appearance in The Last Jedi.

Haha. Not quite!
@Sacrebleu

lmao why did he lose his hair, too??
@ReyofLightSide

Um........ They HAVE seen the images that have been released right?

They know this is all in their imagination... right?

@IoJovi

This was predicted before the teaser trailer and poster were released. Now a few somebodies have egg on their faces. I will treasure it always.

by IoJovi Thu 18 May 2017, 6:54 pm

Sacrebleu wrote:
IoJovi wrote:
ReyofLightSide wrote:
Sacrebleu wrote:I realize this is very childish, but whenever I want a good chortle, I look at this fanboy prediction for Kylo's appearance in The Last Jedi.

Haha. Not quite!
@Sacrebleu

lmao why did he lose his hair, too??
@ReyofLightSide

Um........ They HAVE seen the images that have been released right?

They know this is all in their imagination... right?
@IoJovi

This was predicted before the teaser trailer and poster were released. Now a few somebodies have egg on their faces. I will treasure it always.

@Sacrebleu

That is so freaking funny I can't stand it. Laughing

And when did Kylo shave his head?! Laughing

They really are threatened by that hair, aren't they. As well they should be...

by Guest Thu 18 May 2017, 6:59 pm

IoJovi wrote:
Sacrebleu wrote:
IoJovi wrote:
ReyofLightSide wrote:
Sacrebleu wrote:I realize this is very childish, but whenever I want a good chortle, I look at this fanboy prediction for Kylo's appearance in The Last Jedi.

Haha. Not quite!
@Sacrebleu

lmao why did he lose his hair, too??
@ReyofLightSide

Um........ They HAVE seen the images that have been released right?

They know this is all in their imagination... right?
@IoJovi

This was predicted before the teaser trailer and poster were released. Now a few somebodies have egg on their faces. I will treasure it always.
@Sacrebleu

That is so freaking funny I can't stand it.

And when did Kylo shave his head?!

They really are threatened by that hair, aren't they. As well they should be...

@IoJovi

No reason at all to shave his head since Kylo doesn't have helmet hair. And the non-helmet hair, my friends, is indisputably canon!

by Helix Thu 18 May 2017, 7:36 pm

The hair is too sacred to touch.

by ReyofLightSide Thu 18 May 2017, 8:06 pm

And his hair is not even dark in that photo. Did he dye it blond? Or is it gray from all of the stress?
Being evil is hard, y'all.

by snufkin Thu 18 May 2017, 8:17 pm

I never had a clue (mostly because I didn't really pay attention to Star Wars) how much Vader as some kind of icon of masculinity really is to some dudes. This will likely mostly make sense to the other USAians, but I stuck in traffic today behind a dude in a jacked up Ford F-150 covered with decals for Vader, the Raiders, and the NRA. The Vader decal, it finally clicked with me where some of the complaints about Kylo being an emo wuss crybaby are based. Or the ongoing (lbh fan fiction) that he's going to get darker and eviller comments are basically "more to a version of masculinity that sticks with the status quo and that doesn't make me uncomfortable."

by Guest Thu 18 May 2017, 8:21 pm

snufkin wrote:I never had a clue (mostly because I didn't really pay attention to Star Wars) how much Vader as some kind of icon of masculinity really is to some dudes. This will likely mostly make sense to the other USAians, but I stuck in traffic today behind a dude in a jacked up Ford F-150 covered with decals for Vader, the Raiders, and the NRA. The Vader decal, it finally clicked with me where some of the complaints about Kylo being an emo wuss crybaby are based. Or the ongoing (lbh fan fiction) that he's going to get darker and eviller comments are basically "more to a version of masculinity that sticks with the status quo and that doesn't make me uncomfortable."

@snufkin

Yeah, a lot of those guys who mock women for shipping Reylo have a real.....I don't know how to say this politely....a real hard-%# for Vader.

by IoJovi Thu 18 May 2017, 8:54 pm

Sacrebleu wrote:
snufkin wrote:I never had a clue (mostly because I didn't really pay attention to Star Wars) how much Vader as some kind of icon of masculinity really is to some dudes. This will likely mostly make sense to the other USAians, but I stuck in traffic today behind a dude in a jacked up Ford F-150 covered with decals for Vader, the Raiders, and the NRA. The Vader decal, it finally clicked with me where some of the complaints about Kylo being an emo wuss crybaby are based. Or the ongoing (lbh fan fiction) that he's going to get darker and eviller comments are basically "more to a version of masculinity that sticks with the status quo and that doesn't make me uncomfortable."
@snufkin

Yeah, a lot of those guys who mock women for shipping Reylo have a real.....I don't know how to say this politely....a real hard-%# for Vader.

@Sacrebleu

My dad has driven solely F150s since before I was born (read: the 1970s). My dad was also an NRA member for a number of years.

He also loves George Lucas over JJ Abrams. lol!

@Snufkin I am cracking up right now...

by snufkin Thu 18 May 2017, 9:06 pm

@IoJovi It was the Raiders Nation license plate holder that cracked me up, like could you be trying any harder between the giant truck, NRA decal, and the Vader decal to impress us with what kind of dude you are. I'm sure the driver is probably more a fan of Rogue One than TFA ; ).

by IoJovi Thu 18 May 2017, 9:10 pm

I just messaged my mom to find out if my dad is a Raiders fan.... lol!

by ISeeAnIsland Thu 18 May 2017, 9:11 pm

snufkin wrote:@IoJovi It was the Raiders Nation license plate holder that cracked me up, like could you be trying any harder between the giant truck, NRA decal, and the Vader decal to impress us with what kind of dude you are. I'm sure the driver is probably more a fan of Rogue One than TFA ; ).

@snufkin

It was missing the "Hilary for Prison" bumper sticker!

Seriously, you'd think that the guy wouldn't want to announce to the world so loudly that he has a tiny p****.

by Helix Thu 18 May 2017, 9:27 pm

ISeeAnIsland wrote:
snufkin wrote:@IoJovi It was the Raiders Nation license plate holder that cracked me up, like could you be trying any harder between the giant truck, NRA decal, and the Vader decal to impress us with what kind of dude you are. I'm sure the driver is probably more a fan of Rogue One than TFA ; ).

@snufkin

It was missing the "Hilary for Prison" bumper sticker!

Seriously, you'd think that the guy wouldn't want to announce to the world so loudly that he has a tiny p****.

@ISeeAnIsland

It's okay because he likes Vader and he probably got his burnt off. They have something in common.

by snufkin Thu 18 May 2017, 9:34 pm

@ISeeAnIsland - wouldn't it be a sticker about locking up Crocked Leia for stealing the Death Star plans and storing them on an unsecured droid?

@IoJovi - I just wondered which of the local teams out here (Niners or Raiders) George Lucas sides with and then realized that duh, he's a nerd and probably doesn't care about football. Full disclosure, I also grew up with a gun owning and truck driving dad. But he drove a janky 1980s Toyota truck and made fun of people who'd spend $$$ on a shiny brand new truck when they lived in suburbia and weren't going to be driving in the snow or offroading.

@Helix - Ha! Not that you're wrong about Vader and some of his fans having that in common.

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