Discussions: Tweets/Instagram

ISeeAnIsland wrote:

ReyofLightSide wrote:

SoloSideCousin wrote:

WhatGirl wrote:'Yet to be told', huh? Interesting.  



Gosh, I wonder who in the First Order would've wanted to save Leia?

@WhatGirl

Yeah, I can't remember if you were here back then it not, but someone addressed the "warning datacard" to Pablo, suggesting that Kylo sent it, and Pablo said he couldn't get into that. @Mrs Ben Solo might have a copy of the actual tweet. I can't remember the exact wording, but I  remember thinking that it was definitely Kylo who sent it.

@SoloSideCousin

Yesssssss, we did think it was Kylo who sends it. Also there is a theory on tumblr about the assassination attempt on Leia in Bloodline. Was it Snoke showing Kylo he could "get to" Leia if Kylo didn't join the FO? Or was it an inside job and that is why Kylo turned on the Resistance? Anyway, a theory that Kylo is protecting his mother somehow.

@ReyofLightSide

That would make a TON of sense, knowing a bit of the background behind Bloodline. The "napkin incident" was one of the things that Claudia Gray included at Rian's request, if you'll recall. And from what I recall, the whole bombing thing was more like a "warning shot" than something actually intended to kill.

It would also be very Anakin-like if Ben's fall had to do with protecting his mother.

@ISeeAnIsland

Ha great minds post alike!

This video, just posted today, pretty much covers everything in this conversation. I wonder if it's what spurred that person on Twitter to question MM:

It's nice to have something bright again!

I must admit I forgot about that little bit - and began to think about as yet another SW inconsistency. I'am glad I was wrong.

Also, if I remember correctly there was a tweet (a long ago when Pablo was nice lol) where he suggested that Snoke knows Leia.

Darth_Awakened wrote:It's nice to have something bright again!

I must admit I forgot about that little bit - and began to think about as yet another SW inconsistency. I'am glad I was wrong.

Also, if I remember correctly there was a tweet (a long ago when Pablo was nice lol) where he suggested that Snoke knows Leia.

@Darth_Awakened

Maybe they had a fling while Han was away. It's the all the gold.

Cowgirlsamurai wrote:This video, just posted today, pretty much covers everything in this conversation. I wonder if it's what spurred that person on Twitter to question MM:

@Cowgirlsamurai

Thanks for posting that.  He has some very interesting ideas.  One question I have, though, is about what he says at around the 0:25 mark.  He says that Lucasfilm has stated they won't be recasting the role of Leia.  Did they really say that?  I remember they said something about not having plans to CGI her, but I don't remember them saying anything about whether they would recast or not.

They've never said that. They've said they won't use CGI and that TLJ is the last movie with CF but nothing about recasting.

Darth_Awakened wrote:It's nice to have something bright again!

I must admit I forgot about that little bit - and began to think about as yet another SW inconsistency. I'am glad I was wrong.

Also, if I remember correctly there was a tweet (a long ago when Pablo was nice lol) where he suggested that Snoke knows Leia.

@Darth_Awakened

I thought this was implied in The Force Awakens when Leia tells Han that Snoke seduced Ben to the dark side. To me, it was clear that Snoke was a known figure in their lives.

Piper Maru wrote:

Darth_Awakened wrote:It's nice to have something bright again!

I must admit I forgot about that little bit - and began to think about as yet another SW inconsistency. I'am glad I was wrong.

Also, if I remember correctly there was a tweet (a long ago when Pablo was nice lol) where he suggested that Snoke knows Leia.

@Darth_Awakened

I thought this was implied in The Force Awakens when Leia tells Han that Snoke seduced Ben to the dark side. To me, it was clear that Snoke was a known figure in their lives.

@Piper Maru

Knowing someone doesn't mean intimate knowing, decades long knowing, etc. Leia could have suspected that Ben was under someone's influence, but once that influence was revealed to be Snoke, there's no point to address him as anything but Snoke. 

If we go by canon timeline, FO was still hiding in Unknown Regions 6 years prior to TFA, and Snoke definitely wasn't a political factor in GFFA cause nobody mentions him. You can't have Presidential elections plot pulled off without mentioning a power player if there's such a figure. But the only FO liaisons we hear of are Lady Carise and Amaxine Warriors.  

So my bet is that "Leia knows Snoke" refers to period between Bloodline and TFA when FO reveal happened.

I didn't say she knew Snoke "intimately" as a friend, but she knew him in some capacity.

The fact that he was (1) known figure and (2) was around enough to seduce Ben implies that he was a constant presence in their lives - a colleague, a visitor in their vacation home, an investor of sorts (going by his pimp-y looks), whatever else.

I've been thinking about datacard warning a bit more:

I see two possibilities:

1. Kylo Ren - It seems obvious a this point. He's against the use of SKB against Resistance. Leia's his mum.

2. A wise plot device to introduce a new character to avoid the notion of being pulled in the story out of nowhere.
i.e. Admiral Holdo or someone from her team undercover on SKB

Unlike Rose (who's maintenance worker at the Resistance base and such is expected to be among all this crowd running around the base in TFA but not necessarily seen on the screen, and unlike DJ who is apparently in the package of the new world introduction, Holdo seems to be a part of the Resistance and nowhere to be seen in TFA (unlike Rose you would expect to see her among other high positioned resistance fighter debating the SKB and how to blow it up).
So, where was Holdo during the events of TFA?