Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

RosiePancake wrote:

ZioRen wrote:The leaker I posted about before is basically saying that Kylo's ultimate goal is to kill Snoke. He thinks he has to be full Dark Side to do it, so that's why he's so determined to snuff out any light in himself. He thinks going as dark as possible, and collecting a bunch of Sith relics to bolster his power, is the only way he'll be strong enough to kill Snoke for the greater good. Rey and Luke believe there is another way, but it's longer and more complicated so Kylo wants to do things his own way. So at the end, he heads off to keep consolidating power and cuts off his connection with Rey, who wants to follow him, so she can't find him.

He also says Kylo has been told since he was a baby that he was the Chosen One meant to kill Snoke and that this is presented as "pretty messed up". From what I can tell, he's saying that it was through touching Darth Vader's helmet, which is apparently infused with Anakin's negative emotions and power, that Kylo becomes warped enough to think that the path he's chosen is the only way.

Rey "purifies" Kylo's saber but Kylo has it in the end and also has Anakin's saber, which he doesn't use because it's a cursed relic or something like that. He also claims that there's a scene where Rey and Kylo have parallel dreams in which the other dies and that may be part of why Kylo doesn't want Rey to stick around him.

The whole thing sounds rather convoluted and there's much more he's said about an Indiana Jones-type plot with Rey, Luke, and Kylo. But hey, it's creative! And it would fit with Adam's long time comments about the lengths one will go if they believe they're in the right and doing the right thing, and that he never thought of Kylo as a villain. I think it even sort of ties into the idea that was introduced in supplementary stuff that objects can be infused with the dark?

@ZioRen

And according to that leaker, Rose, Finn, Rey, Kylo's dynamic are like Naruto in Space
Rose ->  Finn -> Rey <-> Kylo, just like Hinata -> Naruto -> Sakura <-> Sasuke
After Kylo shuts his force bond with Rey down, Rey determines to find Kylo and be with him no matter what, Finn thinks Rey makes a bad choice (chooses to be with Kylo) and will try to stop Rey.
I think it does sound fun and romantic drama

Cowgirlsamurai wrote:I showed the saber catching gif to my husband and he says the spoiler is that Rey’s going to remove her “face” to reveal that she’s actually Kylo Ren. Then it will be revealed that everyone in the movie is Kylo Ren, which will make me happy because I only seem to care about Kylo   (not true!)  

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:Thought I'd share some paraphrased knee-jerk anti reactions/headcanons:

1. The scene is backwards like Rey holding the lightsaber in the rain even though a Praet is running toward her! Kylo is actually pulling the saber out of her hand to fight her! Never mind the fact that she's literally holding it out and seems totally cool with it. Rey's just silly that way.

2. Kylo will betray her right after this because all anti-Reylo headcanons position Rey as the galaxy's biggest moron who would put her faith in a patricidal creep only to be betrayed. Again. Rofl. Pretty sure we already watched the movie all about Kylo'x betrayal. It's called TFA.

3. Prime Jedi is Snoke and has no correlation with Rey and Kylo. I guess we're pretending it's not a Jedi in a perfect state of meditation that is made up of two halves. Rey and Kylo are two halves of something. Hmm.

4. Kylo leads troopers on Crait be-all-end-all argument. They didn't read the part about his conflicted feelings.

Darth_Awakened wrote:

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:Thought I'd share some paraphrased knee-jerk anti reactions/headcanons:

1. The scene is backwards like Rey holding the lightsaber in the rain even though a Praet is running toward her! Kylo is actually pulling the saber out of her hand to fight her! Never mind the fact that she's literally holding it out and seems totally cool with it. Rey's just silly that way.

2. Kylo will betray her right after this because all anti-Reylo headcanons position Rey as the galaxy's biggest moron who would put her faith in a patricidal creep only to be betrayed. Again. Rofl. Pretty sure we already watched the movie all about Kylo'x betrayal. It's called TFA.

3. Prime Jedi is Snoke and has no correlation with Rey and Kylo. I guess we're pretending it's not a Jedi in a perfect state of meditation that is made up of two halves. Rey and Kylo are two halves of something. Hmm.

4. Kylo leads troopers on Crait be-all-end-all argument. They didn't read the part about his conflicted feelings.

@FrolickingFizzgig

Not to mention that I saw a Force bond = Rey Solo confimred!

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:

Darth_Awakened wrote:

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:Thought I'd share some paraphrased knee-jerk anti reactions/headcanons:

1. The scene is backwards like Rey holding the lightsaber in the rain even though a Praet is running toward her! Kylo is actually pulling the saber out of her hand to fight her! Never mind the fact that she's literally holding it out and seems totally cool with it. Rey's just silly that way.

2. Kylo will betray her right after this because all anti-Reylo headcanons position Rey as the galaxy's biggest moron who would put her faith in a patricidal creep only to be betrayed. Again. Rofl. Pretty sure we already watched the movie all about Kylo'x betrayal. It's called TFA.

3. Prime Jedi is Snoke and has no correlation with Rey and Kylo. I guess we're pretending it's not a Jedi in a perfect state of meditation that is made up of two halves. Rey and Kylo are two halves of something. Hmm.

4. Kylo leads troopers on Crait be-all-end-all argument. They didn't read the part about his conflicted feelings.

@FrolickingFizzgig

Not to mention that I saw a Force bond = Rey Solo confimred!

@Darth_Awakened
I'm genuinely puzzled by the number of people who have jumped off Rey Skywalker in favour of REY SOLO over the past few days. To quote a lovely person from another forum that's like giving away your ticket aboard the Titanic and booking a one-way flight on the Hindenburg.

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:

Darth_Awakened wrote:

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:Thought I'd share some paraphrased knee-jerk anti reactions/headcanons:

1. The scene is backwards like Rey holding the lightsaber in the rain even though a Praet is running toward her! Kylo is actually pulling the saber out of her hand to fight her! Never mind the fact that she's literally holding it out and seems totally cool with it. Rey's just silly that way.

2. Kylo will betray her right after this because all anti-Reylo headcanons position Rey as the galaxy's biggest moron who would put her faith in a patricidal creep only to be betrayed. Again. Rofl. Pretty sure we already watched the movie all about Kylo'x betrayal. It's called TFA.

3. Prime Jedi is Snoke and has no correlation with Rey and Kylo. I guess we're pretending it's not a Jedi in a perfect state of meditation that is made up of two halves. Rey and Kylo are two halves of something. Hmm.

4. Kylo leads troopers on Crait be-all-end-all argument. They didn't read the part about his conflicted feelings.

@FrolickingFizzgig

Not to mention that I saw a Force bond = Rey Solo confimred!

@Darth_Awakened
I'm genuinely puzzled by the number of people who have jumped off Rey Skywalker in favour of REY SOLO over the past few days. To quote a lovely person from another forum that's like giving away your ticket aboard the Titanic and booking a one-way flight on the Hindenburg.

vaderito wrote:Ok, so this is what I got from Visual Dictionary spoilers:

Half-way retcon: Anakin Prophecy = destroy the Sith but not the Darkness. This is going to cause the controversy.

Hints of possible Storm trooper rebellion once they find out Finn defected (his graduation class is stationed on Supremacy and Finn's revenge against Phasma may have something to do with them)

LOL, Luke's red crystal necklace is a relic from the Jedi Crusader (yep, they were modeled after the Templar as we suspected), so RIP all those fake spoilers about Luke with the red saber from Vader's crystal.

Luke is a 100% Jedi, RIP Skymom and Reywalker. Sorry, time to reach the Acceptance Phase.

Reyloismine is legit.

MrGhostFace was legit (that leia was Luke's first student may imply that she indeed used the Force to save herself during the attack as he spoiled).

Thala Sirens are NOT Sloth Anakin. Wherever monster Rey fights is not those creatures.

Rey is very likely to meet Kylo through the Force bond in the Mirror Cave.

Kylo is likely not coming to Ahch-to given that their Force Bond transcends space. However, he may be present through the Force Bond on the planet.

No faker knew that Ahch-to has more than 1 sun. It's very likely it has twin suns cause Luke meditation scene shows twin suns. VD addresses them as "Ahch-to suns" without stating the number.

No faker knew about The Prime Jedi. It looks like Rey and Kylo are two sides of the prime Jedi based on the Yin/Yang symbol.

Renperor confirmed?

It looks like romance situation will be free for all again given some entries (Force Bond, Finn knows what he feels about Rey is deeper than "imprinting", Poe's waiting to share his mother's wedding ring with the right partner)

Darth Dingbat wrote:LA LA LA LA I'm trying to shield my eyes from seeing too much and so far I've managed quite well, but can someone confirm one thing - was there actually a reference to the Jedi Crusaders? Is that true?!

Hot damn. If so, looks like Revan is finding his way to canon in some form, after all.

SkyStar wrote:Rey Solo - how is still alive? Hysterical.

Darth_Awakened wrote:

SkyStar wrote:Rey Solo - how is still alive? Hysterical.

@SkyStar

Rey Solo will never die!

vaderito wrote:

Darth Dingbat wrote:LA LA LA LA I'm trying to shield my eyes from seeing too much and so far I've managed quite well, but can someone confirm one thing - was there actually a reference to the Jedi Crusaders? Is that true?!

Hot damn. If so, looks like Revan is finding his way to canon in some form, after all.

@Darth Dingbat

Yes. Luke's infamous red crustal necklace is a relic from a Jedi Crusader. Luke devoted himself to uncovering the Jedi teachings and restoring the order. There's really no room for Skymom.

@FrolickingFizzgig Yes, I read it here. Cause theyhave to double down after Daisy debunked it again.

vaderito wrote:Ok, so this is what I got from Visual Dictionary spoilers:

Half-way retcon: Anakin Prophecy = destroy the Sith but not the Darkness. This is going to cause the controversy.

Hints of possible Storm trooper rebellion once they find out Finn defected (his graduation class is stationed on Supremacy and Finn's revenge against Phasma may have something to do with them)

LOL, Luke's red crystal necklace is a relic from the Jedi Crusader (yep, they were modeled after the Templar as we suspected), so RIP all those fake spoilers about Luke with the red saber from Vader's crystal.

Luke is a 100% Jedi, RIP Skymom and Reywalker. Sorry, time to reach the Acceptance Phase.

Reyloismine is legit.

MrGhostFace was legit (that leia was Luke's first student may imply that she indeed used the Force to save herself during the attack as he spoiled).

Thala Sirens are NOT Sloth Anakin. Wherever monster Rey fights is not those creatures.

Rey is very likely to meet Kylo through the Force bond in the Mirror Cave.

Kylo is likely not coming to Ahch-to given that their Force Bond transcends space. However, he may be present through the Force Bond on the planet.

No faker knew that Ahch-to has more than 1 sun. It's very likely it has twin suns cause Luke meditation scene shows twin suns. VD addresses them as "Ahch-to suns" without stating the number.

No faker knew about The Prime Jedi. It looks like Rey and Kylo are two sides of the prime Jedi based on the Yin/Yang symbol.

Renperor confirmed?

It looks like romance situation will be free for all again given some entries (Force Bond, Finn knows what he feels about Rey is deeper than "imprinting", Poe's waiting to share his mother's wedding ring with the right partner)

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
Didn't you hear? ReySky isn't happening but it's all about Rey Solo again.

teltaru wrote:

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:
Didn't you hear? ReySky isn't happening but it's all about Rey Solo again.

@FrolickingFizzgig

What's their reasoning now that Daisy laughed it off as a crack theory in one of her latest interviews? If there was any kind of uproar about that one, I missed it and I'm genuinely curious.