Star Wars Episodes I-VII Viewing Party: THE PHANTOM MENACE

bela.mesecina wrote:

vaderito wrote:

spacebaby45678 wrote:Jar Jar is tazed just like Finn in the beginning of the movie

@spacebaby45678

Finn is the Jar Jar of ST.

@vaderito

I actually liked Jar Jar *please don't kill me*

Darth Rowan wrote:

Kylo Ren's 8-Pack wrote:My fave bits in Episode 1 - 

Love Qui-Gon Jinn.
My favorite Jedi.
He exerts a lot of wisdom and has that slight rebellious streak going against the Council at times.
Always saw him right up there with Yoda as most Force connected Master.
Love him.
Liam Neeson played a fine Jedi.

Watto.
One of my favorite non-human characters in Star Wars.
Love his gruff little demeanor and his interesting character design.
The scene between him and Qui-Gon outside of his junk shop, where the Jedi tries to mind trick him into accepting Republic Credits, is pure gold.
Love his reaction there.." I'm a Tydarian! Mind tricks don't work on me, only money..!"

Sebulba.
Another cool character I really liked from the Prequels.
His smugness and shifty game play make him a interesting addition.
A unique character design too...having his 'hands' actually be his 'feet' and vise versa.

The 'Duel of Fates' musical score.
Such a great piece of music from John Williams.
The duel against Maul was good, but the score here raises it up to an even higher level.

@Kylo Ren's 8-Pack

Great post! I really liked reading this. I agree with everything you say here. Especially about Watto! He doesn't usually get any praise as a character, but I thought he was really enjoyable and fun. What I most liked about him was that in spite of his being a scoundrel and literally a slave driver, it was also clear that he had soft spot for Ani. He wasn't cruel, and he could have been. Later in the PT when Anakin encounters him again he seems genuinely pleased to see him. Almost heart-warming to see, lol.

Here are my favorite things about TPM:

-Qui-Gon, of course. n_n

If he had lived maybe everything would have worked out better for poor Anakin and, well, the galaxy. Qui-Gon would have been an amazing father-figure to Ani, Sidious/Palpatine would have had no foothold, not as easy a way to get his hooks into Anakin. Qui-Gon also wouldn't have been blinded to Sidious the way the Jedi Council was, because he wasn't concerned with increasing his own influence/protecting his position/going on the offensive. He wasn't apprehensive, aggressive and closed off, the way Mace Windu was. He really was a fantastic Jedi, would have loved to have seen more of him.

-The magnificent pageantry of Queen Amidala in stark contrast to the simplicity of Padme's style. I just really enjoyed her character here. Natalie Portman's best showing in Star Wars. She seemed invested/committed in a way that I didn't see her achieve in other installments.

-Darth Maul: gone to soon, RIP.

-The music. As you say, 8-Pack, John Williams brought his A-game to this movie. Duel of the Fates is one of those scores that gives me chills each time I hear it. Just amaaaazing.

My least favorite thing about TPM is how it began to tear down my beloved Yoda, and the whole of the Jedi Council and Jedi Order. By the time the PT was done, I was completely disillusioned with the Jedi Order and that was a hard pill to swallow. I had been the kid who played with my grandma's oversized umbrella, making lightsaber sounds and swinging it around yelling "I will never join you!". Throughout my childhood what I wanted to be the most was a Jedi (on days when it wasn't astronaut, cashier or king). But everything I thought the order stood for turned out to be meaningless rhetoric, because the Jedi themselves did not follow their own code in the PT, and they did things unbecoming and disturbing that led to their own downfall as surely as Sidious' machinations did. Bottom line: the Jedi council really, really screwed up.

They mishandled Anakin from day one. That scene where this little kid is brought out before the council so they can inform him that they don't want him because he is distressed for his mother and fears for her, because he's too old and because he loves - that scene is nuts. They couldn't have been more unkind to that child if they had deliberately set out to be. The complete lack of compassion there is stunning. When Qui-Gon Jinn said he was going to train Anakin no matter what I wanted to get up and clap. Somebody needed to stand up for that little boy, good grief.

End rant. u_u

vaderito wrote:@Rogue Rey But aesthetics and cool fight sequence are all that some fans want in a villain. they complain when they get more than that.

Are you coming to this weekend's AOTC Viewing Party? that should be fun cause Finally Proper Anidala!

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:I was sad to read this about Jake Lloyd today. People can be so cruel.

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/11/leave_jake_lloyd_alone_we_need_compassion_for_mental_illness_not_snark/

vaderito wrote:I don't get Maul love either. Aside his ballerina double blade dance, which is cool and would look tremendous if Rey did it, he was nothing of a role, went down like a b****.

I also prefer Kylo's medieval style swinging to Jedi's speedy kendo style. Much manlier. @Darth_Awakened

Force22 wrote:@panki you're right! Still, he has been seen as a force ghost, right?

I really like Qui-Gon, I wish they made a spin-off with him, or perhaps with some other rebellious/grey jedi.

vaderito wrote:@SoloSideCousin Apparently, martial artists was so bad that another actor dubbed his lines. I can't imagine how anyone could screw up those 3 lines but this guy did. Yet Maul fanboys call that great acting. I can't.

Arcana wrote:Are we going to have a new thread for the AotC wieving....I'll watch sometime during Sunday
(if I wake up at some decent hour....going out dancing on saturday...in a dress...short dress....with my Rey belt ....the Force will be with me )

Saracene wrote:I now rewatched this movie too and I take back what said about Attack of the Clones - this movie is infinitely worse. I haven't watched it since it came out in the cinemas and good lord I forgot what a trainwreck Jar Jar Binks is. Also I can't believe I'm saying this but I actually prefer Christensen's Anakin to this bloody little kid and is it a requirement of the office that a queen of Naboo must speak like a friggin' robot? The plot with the Federation and siege of Naboo is a total snoozefest and the opening crawl is almost enough to put you to sleep. I know most people like Liam Neeson here but to me he just looks like he took a shot of tranqulizers and had the life sucked out of him. If he's meant to be a more rebellious Jedi why is he so bloody boring? McGregor and McDiarmid, the saving graces of later films, don't have much to do here.

What I liked:

- Well the final duel is still pretty damn great, even if it's intercut with the adventures of the wunderkind and Jar Jar's slapstick sith. I think it's pretty much the sole reason why I had thought that this movie was better than AoTC. Darth Maul is basically nothing but a face paint and a cool lightsaber and he's a bit of a shortarse, but his look is sure memorable and Ray Park can move.

panki wrote:

Saracene wrote:I now rewatched this movie too and I take back what said about Attack of the Clones - this movie is infinitely worse. I haven't watched it since it came out in the cinemas and good lord I forgot what a trainwreck Jar Jar Binks is. Also I can't believe I'm saying this but I actually prefer Christensen's Anakin to this bloody little kid and is it a requirement of the office that a queen of Naboo must speak like a friggin' robot? The plot with the Federation and siege of Naboo is a total snoozefest and the opening crawl is almost enough to put you to sleep. I know most people like Liam Neeson here but to me he just looks like he took a shot of tranqulizers and had the life sucked out of him. If he's meant to be a more rebellious Jedi why is he so bloody boring? McGregor and McDiarmid, the saving graces of later films, don't have much to do here.

What I liked:

- Well the final duel is still pretty damn great, even if it's intercut with the adventures of the wunderkind and Jar Jar's slapstick sith. I think it's pretty much the sole reason why I had thought that this movie was better than AoTC. Darth Maul is basically nothing but a face paint and a cool lightsaber and he's a bit of a shortarse, but his look is sure memorable and Ray Park can move.

@Saracene

If the story had only Qui-Gon, Obi-wan and Darth Maul......with a really really brief appearance by Padme and a young Anakin (not a 9 year old but maybe someone closer to 11-12)...and no Jar Jar.... I would have liked the movie a lot!