Re: The "Crack" Spoiler Discussion Thread

[Reylo Lemon]

The "leaker" about Kylo:

he begins a redemption arc. maybe redemption isn't the right word. For most of the movie he is out to prove himself but he turns on snoke and kills a couple of the red guards when he finds out snoke is directly targetting leia toward end of film. he and rey have a lightsaber fight in the first half of the movie which he wins.

@SkyStar


Do you think the leak's legit? The leaker seems to be online so might be able to get them to answer some questions

@Marie Ren

I'm laughing because in every crack spoiler, there's a rematch and he wins this time

[Darth_Awakened]

The leak looks nice, and I would love it is legit.

Although, it doesn't give anything we didn't know before (a boy in a hallway..etc), so I have doubts about it.

[SkyStar]

The "leaker" about Kylo:

he begins a redemption arc. maybe redemption isn't the right word. For most of the movie he is out to prove himself but he turns on snoke and kills a couple of the red guards when he finds out snoke is directly targetting leia toward end of film. he and rey have a lightsaber fight in the first half of the movie which he wins.

@SkyStar


Do you think the leak's legit? The leaker seems to be online so might be able to get them to answer some questions

@Marie Ren

I would say more no, than yes. There have been a lot of these leaks and many of them sound believable, but it is also because there is stuff we already know. The guy hasn't posted anything else before. I want to believe, but somehow something doesn't let me.

[Helix]

I call it... Sneia.

[snufkin]

@Helix - knocked up by a wayward church pastor, it's like Dateline! I can almost hear Keith Morrison's voice when reading that (church pastors having illicit affairs with parishoners is at least 30% of all the scandals and murders covered on that show).

[SoloSideCousin]

@Helix - knocked up by a wayward church pastor, it's like Dateline! I can almost hear Keith Morrison's voice when reading that (church pastors having illicit affairs with parishoners is at least 30% of all the scandals and murders covered on that show).

@snufkin

Not only that, but appears under this desperate ReySnokeSkywalkerOrgana theory that Kylo would have had to kill the Jedi somewhere between the ages of 10 and 12. Lol!!! Just a little arithmetic is needed, lol.

[snufkin]

@SoloSideCousin - Ben's tall, so maybe he developed early for his age : P

When I finally saw TFA and then tried reading other fan theories/explanations, the whole "he dumped Rey on Jakku after the Jedi Academy massacre" made zero sense to me. Because somebody who's portrayed at 29 years old as frequently losing his sH*t and getting distracted from the task at hand wasn't a cold and collected assassin at 14 years old.

[SoloSideCousin]

@SoloSideCousin - Ben's tall, so maybe he developed early for his age. Ha, yeah this is when I finally saw TFA and then tried reading other fan theories/explanations, the whole "he dumped Rey on Jakku after the Jedi Academy massacre" made zero sense to me. Like somebody who's portrayed at 29 years old as frequently losing his sH*t and getting distracted from the task at hand was a cold and collected assassin at 14 years old.

@snufkin

Right! Lol! Jason Bourne might have tried to turn away from his programming, but that dude is still as cool as a cucumber in any tense situation ... Kylo, not so much, lol. Kylo's never been that cool. He was never a Jason Bourne and certainly not a Vader.

[Guest]

I guess this belongs in this thread because I haven't even heard of the supposed source. If Snoke has the power to destroy whole planets with his mind why would he even bother with Starkiller Base in the first place? lol. I do like the pictured Disney figure set, though. https://buzznews.co.uk/star-wars-force-friday-2-snoke-kyber-crystal-ring-revealed-it-gives-him-terrifying-power

[ISeeAnIsland]

I guess this belongs in this thread because I haven't even heard of the supposed source. If Snoke has the power to destroy whole planets with his mind why would he even bother with Starkiller Base in the first place? lol. I do like the pictured Disney figure set, though. https://buzznews.co.uk/star-wars-force-friday-2-snoke-kyber-crystal-ring-revealed-it-gives-him-terrifying-power

@Mrs Ben Solo

At least they didn't quote "Star Wars expert Mike Zeroh"?

[ISeeAnIsland]

New, probably fake "spoiler" from 4chan, folks (although it does have some intriguing bits):

http://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/87474516

Minor spoilers from action sequences:
>Resistance tries to fight off new AT-M6's with bombers but it doesn't work, Poe uses a proton torpedo to ignite the ground under the vehicles, finally destroying them.
> AT-M6 can bend up and down and shoot an artillery canon.
>Kylo's new starship has a "combat mode" similar to X-Wings, its wings sort of fold outside making space for multiple new guns jumping into place.
>There's a somewhat slapsticky scene in which BB-8 fights BB-9E with blowtorch.

Bigger spoilers:
>Supremacy is destroyed but without Snoke on board - it's a trick, he's a hologram. By the end of the movie it's revealed he was on a different starship all the time.
>DJ hacks Finn's spine implant to retrieve information about Resistance base on Crait and sells this info to First Order. After it's revealed, Holdo throws Finn into a brig for treason.
>Admiral Holdo sabotages Leia's transporter. Poe, Finn and Rose manage to run away using an escape pod (the cockpit detaches), but Leia is injured and doesn't make it, implied to die in explosion.
>Luke is now Dr Jekkyl/Mr Hide and evidently crazy.

Someone asked him to elaborate on the Luke comment, and the OP said this:

Unfortunately that's all I know, Luke and Rey's arc is top top top secret and tightly under the wraps even for people who are close to production. Noticed how they, of all characters, are weirdly under-represented (almost absent) in the currently available merchandise, while marketing is working full-time pushing the "mysterious" narrative?

And some of this might sound reasonable, but here's where the OP screws up:

OP here, here's multiple other things I remembered.
>Poe's X-Wing is damaged which is unfortunate because he's assumed to be the only pilot good enough to fulfil Resistance's plan to destroy the Supremacy. He gets super pissed, Leia slaps him in the face and orders him to lead the ground offensive.
>Kylo shoots Millennium Falcon down for good, but I don't know more details.
>It's explained that First Order is actually quite influential and they rule about a third of the known galaxy, so it's not like they're "imperial remnants" as presented in TFA, it's explained that there's "first order controlled space".
>One of the stormtroopers recognizes Finn while he's dressed up as an officer and congratulates him on promotion.
>Casino on Canto Bight belongs to Snoke, assumed to be one of many, it's one of the sources of his enormous wealth. I know how it sounds but I heard someone calling him the "Trump of Star Wars".

There's no effing way they get rid of the Millennium Falcon, IMO. And definitely not by Kylo.

[Kessel]

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>Casino on Canto Bight belongs to Snoke, assumed to be one of many, it's one of the sources of his enormous wealth. I know how it sounds but I heard someone calling him the "Trump of Star Wars".

@ISeeAnIsland

Snoke as the "Trump of Star Wars" would make him even more scary to me...lol

I love the creative craziness of these Reddit "spoilers." These people have quite the imagination.

[vaderito]

My comments in red:

New, probably fake "spoiler" from 4chan, folks (although it does have some intriguing bits):

http://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/87474516

Minor spoilers from action sequences:
>Resistance tries to fight off new AT-M6's with bombers but it doesn't work, Poe uses a proton torpedo to ignite the ground under the vehicles, finally destroying them. - Jason says they dump crystals on them
> AT-M6 can bend up and down and shoot an artillery canon.
>Kylo's new starship has a "combat mode" similar to X-Wings, its wings sort of fold outside making space for multiple new guns jumping into place. Lego has released a video that demonstrates that, nothing new
>There's a somewhat slapsticky scene in which BB-8 fights BB-9E with blowtorch.

Bigger spoilers:
>Supremacy is destroyed but without Snoke on board - it's a trick, he's a hologram. By the end of the movie it's revealed he was on a different starship all the time. So somehow he perfected a hologram that looks 100% real yet had a crappy one when talking to Hux and Kylo. Whatever.
>DJ hacks Finn's spine implant to retrieve information about Resistance base on Crait and sells this info to First Order. After it's revealed, Holdo throws Finn into a brig for treason. Nice to see a variation of a mechanic pelvis is back (spine implant). Also, how long is Finn in a bring, 3 seconds? Considering that nothing we've seen so far - and we've seen a lot - supports this claim.
>Admiral Holdo sabotages Leia's transporter. Poe, Finn and Rose manage to run away using an escape pod (the cockpit detaches), but Leia is injured and doesn't make it, implied to die in explosion. LOL, when is this supposed to happen? Leia's fine on Crait and her character was never meant to die anyway. So doubtful they filmed a scene where she kind of dies but then shows up alive in IX before Carrie died.
>Luke is now Dr Jekkyl/Mr Hide and evidently crazy. Ha,ha, tell us something that isn't a speculation

Someone asked him to elaborate on the Luke comment, and the OP said this:

Unfortunately that's all I know, Luke and Rey's arc is top top top secret and tightly under the wraps even for people who are close to production. Noticed how they, of all characters, are weirdly under-represented (almost absent) in the currently available merchandise, while marketing is working full-time pushing the "mysterious" narrative?LOL, so Luke and Rey arc is top secret yet he knows that Luke is Jekyl/Hide?
LMAO! Dude, if anything is top secret than Jekyl/Hide tops the top secret list! Make up your mind!

And some of this might sound reasonable, but here's where the OP screws up:

OP here, here's multiple other things I remembered.
>Poe's X-Wing is damaged which is unfortunate because he's assumed to be the only pilot good enough to fulfil Resistance's plan to destroy the Supremacy. He gets super pissed, Leia slaps him in the face and orders him to lead the ground offensive. So who destroys the Supremacy? Cause first he says Supremacy is destroyed and then that only Poe could do it but he's screwed. That's too much detail on one side and not enough detail on another side.
>Kylo shoots Millennium Falcon down for good, but I don't know more details. Happens when? During Crait battle? Again, he provides details when it suits him but no detail when it doesn't and he never has details about stuff that people actually want to know about
>It's explained that First Order is actually quite influential and they rule about a third of the known galaxy, so it's not like they're "imperial remnants" as presented in TFA, it's explained that there's "first order controlled space". So said Jason. Nothing new.
>One of the stormtroopers recognizes Finn while he's dressed up as an officer and congratulates him on promotion. Old news. Next
>Casino on Canto Bight belongs to Snoke, assumed to be one of many, it's one of the sources of his enormous wealth. I know how it sounds but I heard someone calling him the "Trump of Star Wars".So he's heard someone calling Snoke the Trump of Star Wars implying he's tight with the production, but he doesn't know any top secrets except Jekyl/Hide Luke which he somehow doesn't consider top secret, and he knows all details about Dj hacking Finn's pelvis and Poe screwing up but not where Kylo shoots MF and who's aboard if anyone. Brill.

There's no effing way they get rid of the Millennium Falcon, IMO. And definitely not by Kylo.

@ISeeAnIsland


FAKE AF

[Kylo Men]

That one is so weirdly specific that I kind of give it credibility. Plus the fact he doesn't know the outcome of the biggest secret of the bunch, Luke and Rey. If you're making it all up, why not that?

[Guest]

There's no effing way they get rid of the Millennium Falcon, IMO. And definitely not by Kylo.

@ISeeAnIsland

I agree Kylo would not purposely destroy the Falcon. He had that chance on SKB. Instead, he became really sentimental from simply being aboard it again. One way to tell when a leak is fake is to look at how Kylo gets characterized, imo.

[ISeeAnIsland]

There's no effing way they get rid of the Millennium Falcon, IMO. And definitely not by Kylo.

@ISeeAnIsland

I agree Kylo would not purposely destroy the Falcon. He had that chance on SKB. Instead, he became really sentimental from simply being aboard it again. One way to tell when a leak is fake is to look at how Kylo gets characterized, imo.

@WhatGirl

Agreed. To me, Kylo destroying the Falcon would be nearly on par with him killing Han. And assuming that we're on for the redemption arc, killing Han should equate to him hitting rock bottom (even if he doesn't realize it for the first part of the movie).

[Kylo Men]

I'm starting to think none of the leaks are true, that we have no inkling what's going to happen. Although if any of them are true, we'll probably figure it out the next time we get a trailer.

[vaderito]

It's back! The link to Mah Baby Gurl crack spoiler from TFA times! I know it doesn't belong here but, damn, that was worth revisiting. here's the link:

https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/3n5gib/i_have_seen_the_force_awakens_twice_now_ama/

Q:Is anything said between Luke and Rey at the end ?

A: Yes. Rey tries to keep up her tough exterior and says "I think this belongs to you." Trying to hand him the lightsaber.
Luke does no such thing, embracing her saying, "my baby girl!"
That's the last line of the movie.

EDIT: though to his credit he did see something cause many stuff from his Q&A are from the movie, like:

Rey has been trying to catch up and as Kylo reaches for the lightsaber it flies away from him and into Rey's hands (who hasn't used the force in any capacity to this point) and ignites it and fights Kylo.

So it sounds like an older version of the script where Rey didn't meet the TREE or he deliberately put some fake info in. Or he just took MSW synopsis as a base and injected Reywalker and other BS into it.

[Darth_Awakened]

Just in from the reddit: A new version of opening crawl

[Airemyn]

That actually sounds quite exciting! Who knows if it's true. Shame we can't see the bottom bit of the first page, it must mention Kylo?

[ISeeAnIsland]

That actually sounds quite exciting! Who knows if it's true. Shame we can't see the bottom bit of the first page, it must mention Kylo?

@Airemyn

Not if it's fake (as is likely). The fake "leaks" almost never know what to do with Kylo.

[SoloSideCousin]

That actually sounds quite exciting! Who knows if it's true. Shame we can't see the bottom bit of the first page, it must mention Kylo?

@Airemyn

Not if it's fake (as is likely). The fake "leaks" almost never know what to do with Kylo.

@ISeeAnIsland

This. Also, Leia is not in charge of the Republic, only the Resistance.  I mean did so many people die that she is the "designated survivor" when she not even a part if that government anymore?

[ISeeAnIsland]

Some more crack from NFJ, who says that it's "almost confirmed" that the Adam Driver training scene from BTS is him training with the Praetorian guards...which will be part of a Rocky-type montage sequence showing Kylo training with the guards while Rey trains alone. Oh yeah, and it'll be "very emotional".




And you have to love this one, where a dude in the comments brings up the old Kylo-stomping-up-and-down-the-hallway-for-the-whole-movie leak, as if it were truth:

[Darth_Awakened]

Emotional training. Never heard of such thing. lol

[Piper Maru]

Yeah, because it makes total sense to train with the bodyguards of your boss.

The guards are there to protect Snoke, not to teach Kylo how to fight.

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