Discussion: TLJ Movie Spoilers/Rumors

Kylo Rey wrote:

Blackcanary wrote:@Kylo Rey

I PMed that reddit review writer and he confirmed Kylo/Rey romance and Luke's death...

@Blackcanary

Ugh, really? I'll be way more heartbroken and angry at Luke dying than Han, especially after all he's been through, wtf...

Nimbus002 wrote:

Blackcanary wrote:@Kylo Rey

I PMed that reddit review writer and he confirmed Kylo/Rey romance and Luke's death...

@Blackcanary

This is interesting. I wonder how romantic, like what happens to make it so. As for Luke, I have mixed feelings but I can sympathize with OT and Luke fans. The whole OT cast basically got wiped out. Though I suppose Luke can have a very heroic sacrifice

reylo1992 wrote:

Ynqve wrote:

special_cases wrote:

DarthRen wrote:

special_cases wrote:@reylo1992

First, I really liked Prince Wang So's character's arc in Scarlet Heart Ryeo. He begins the drama as a monster, then becomes more like a dark Prince as his love story with the heroine progresses. But deep inside, he says himself that he is still very much a wolf: the ending of the drama shows very much that he is not meant to be a soft man. And the context doesn't help: the throne is a lonely seat that drives you crazy

Parallels between So and Kylo is insane! Even the scar

@special_cases

Let's hope it has a different outcome. No death, Kylo is the last Skywalker and if they all die, just yeah he has to live. Me thinks.

@DarthRen

No, they won't do this in SW. Never.

(Only if JJ become mad because of Rian success and decide to "shock" everybody. And Kathy somehow allow it)

@special_cases

You've seen Rogue One right? People didn't think Disney would have the guts to wipe out the main cast but boy were they wrong.

@Ynqve

Yeah, you're right. But let's take account of the context. It's about a squad of courageous rebels sent on the Death Star to steal the plans. And it appears that none of them show up later in the franchise. So of course, you could have had them following all their own paths. But really there couldn't be a best ending than killing them because that makes their suicide mission even more heroic than if they had miraculously escaped. No way they do that as a conclusion of the Skywalker franchise IMO. Just when you look back, you see how much one single family paid  a high price of war over 6 decades.

And if you add Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's death, there is no single Episode that concludes without a death and/or dramatic turn for a major character. So I suppose that TLJ will follow the same pattern and if I have the choice, I prefer dramatic ending in TLJ to have a real happy ending as the conclusion of the franchise. And with Carrie's death, we already know that Leia will have died in Episode 9 (although it was confirmed that she would survive TLJ) so it will still be bittersweet because Leia will never know the grandchildren she wanted to have. There were too many deaths and sacrifices in each episode: just for that, Reylo needs to be real to bring balance to the Force and bring an end to this unending. conflict.

Nimbus002 wrote:

Blackcanary wrote:@Kylo Rey

I PMed that reddit review writer and he confirmed Kylo/Rey romance and Luke's death...

@Blackcanary

This is interesting. I wonder how romantic, like what happens to make it so. As for Luke, I have mixed feelings but I can sympathize with OT and Luke fans. The whole OT cast basically got wiped out. Though I suppose Luke can have a very heroic sacrifice

rawpowah wrote:

vaderito wrote:

Kylo Rey wrote:CAN SOMEONE LEAK LEGIT SPOILERS ALREADY

@Kylo Rey

http://www.chud.com/community/t/159913/star-wars-the-last-jedi-2017-post-release/50

https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/7j469i/strong_with_the_force_is_the_last_jedi/

@vaderito

Wow am I glad I clicked that reddit link. Thank you!

special_cases wrote:Guys

special_cases wrote:Guys

ZioRen wrote:

special_cases wrote:Guys

@special_cases

This literally sounds like a Reylo fanfic.

Ynqve wrote:

reylo1992 wrote:

Ynqve wrote:

special_cases wrote:

DarthRen wrote:

special_cases wrote:@reylo1992

First, I really liked Prince Wang So's character's arc in Scarlet Heart Ryeo. He begins the drama as a monster, then becomes more like a dark Prince as his love story with the heroine progresses. But deep inside, he says himself that he is still very much a wolf: the ending of the drama shows very much that he is not meant to be a soft man. And the context doesn't help: the throne is a lonely seat that drives you crazy

Parallels between So and Kylo is insane! Even the scar

@special_cases

Let's hope it has a different outcome. No death, Kylo is the last Skywalker and if they all die, just yeah he has to live. Me thinks.

@DarthRen

No, they won't do this in SW. Never.

(Only if JJ become mad because of Rian success and decide to "shock" everybody. And Kathy somehow allow it)

@special_cases

You've seen Rogue One right? People didn't think Disney would have the guts to wipe out the main cast but boy were they wrong.

@Ynqve

Yeah, you're right. But let's take account of the context. It's about a squad of courageous rebels sent on the Death Star to steal the plans. And it appears that none of them show up later in the franchise. So of course, you could have had them following all their own paths. But really there couldn't be a best ending than killing them because that makes their suicide mission even more heroic than if they had miraculously escaped. No way they do that as a conclusion of the Skywalker franchise IMO. Just when you look back, you see how much one single family paid  a high price of war over 6 decades.

And if you add Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's death, there is no single Episode that concludes without a death and/or dramatic turn for a major character. So I suppose that TLJ will follow the same pattern and if I have the choice, I prefer dramatic ending in TLJ to have a real happy ending as the conclusion of the franchise. And with Carrie's death, we already know that Leia will have died in Episode 9 (although it was confirmed that she would survive TLJ) so it will still be bittersweet because Leia will never know the grandchildren she wanted to have. There were too many deaths and sacrifices in each episode: just for that, Reylo needs to be real to bring balance to the Force and bring an end to this unending. conflict.

@reylo1992

I agree. I really don't want Kylo to die, but we have to acknowledge that there is unfortunately a risk that redemption = death for him. I don't want that to happen at all. I want the Skywalkers to continue and I'm tired of redemption through sacrifice. I think that it's a far more interesting story if he survives and has to own up to what he's done and move forward with Rey.

But.

If Kylo and Rey has a scene in IX where they meet, and we get a fade to black love scene, LF could have their cake and eat it too where Kylo dies and if they want to revisit the Skywalker line in 10-15 years they could claim that Kylo and Rey had a kid.

ZioRen wrote:

special_cases wrote:Guys

@special_cases

This literally sounds like a Reylo fanfic.

MyOnlyHope wrote:@AppleCrumble122 The good news is Mark will likely still appear in IX. He's not gone forever, which explains why nobody's freaking out about his death. Becoming one with the Force is really the penultimate goal for any Jedi after all.

Funny, but I sort of had a feeling Luke never left the island. I remember having a weird thought about Luke connecting with Force while meditating in the Jedi Temple. That shot from the BTS seemed really profound and spoke to me even back then.

special_cases wrote:

ZioRen wrote:

special_cases wrote:Guys

@special_cases

This literally sounds like a Reylo fanfic.

@ZioRen

Do you think it's fake?

I'm so nervous.

reylo1992 wrote:

Ynqve wrote:

reylo1992 wrote:

Ynqve wrote:

special_cases wrote:

DarthRen wrote:

special_cases wrote:@reylo1992

First, I really liked Prince Wang So's character's arc in Scarlet Heart Ryeo. He begins the drama as a monster, then becomes more like a dark Prince as his love story with the heroine progresses. But deep inside, he says himself that he is still very much a wolf: the ending of the drama shows very much that he is not meant to be a soft man. And the context doesn't help: the throne is a lonely seat that drives you crazy

Parallels between So and Kylo is insane! Even the scar

@special_cases

Let's hope it has a different outcome. No death, Kylo is the last Skywalker and if they all die, just yeah he has to live. Me thinks.

@DarthRen

No, they won't do this in SW. Never.

(Only if JJ become mad because of Rian success and decide to "shock" everybody. And Kathy somehow allow it)

@special_cases

You've seen Rogue One right? People didn't think Disney would have the guts to wipe out the main cast but boy were they wrong.

@Ynqve

Yeah, you're right. But let's take account of the context. It's about a squad of courageous rebels sent on the Death Star to steal the plans. And it appears that none of them show up later in the franchise. So of course, you could have had them following all their own paths. But really there couldn't be a best ending than killing them because that makes their suicide mission even more heroic than if they had miraculously escaped. No way they do that as a conclusion of the Skywalker franchise IMO. Just when you look back, you see how much one single family paid  a high price of war over 6 decades.

And if you add Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's death, there is no single Episode that concludes without a death and/or dramatic turn for a major character. So I suppose that TLJ will follow the same pattern and if I have the choice, I prefer dramatic ending in TLJ to have a real happy ending as the conclusion of the franchise. And with Carrie's death, we already know that Leia will have died in Episode 9 (although it was confirmed that she would survive TLJ) so it will still be bittersweet because Leia will never know the grandchildren she wanted to have. There were too many deaths and sacrifices in each episode: just for that, Reylo needs to be real to bring balance to the Force and bring an end to this unending. conflict.

@reylo1992

I agree. I really don't want Kylo to die, but we have to acknowledge that there is unfortunately a risk that redemption = death for him. I don't want that to happen at all. I want the Skywalkers to continue and I'm tired of redemption through sacrifice. I think that it's a far more interesting story if he survives and has to own up to what he's done and move forward with Rey.

But.

If Kylo and Rey has a scene in IX where they meet, and we get a fade to black love scene, LF could have their cake and eat it too where Kylo dies and if they want to revisit the Skywalker line in 10-15 years they could claim that Kylo and Rey had a kid.

@Ynqve

Hope it won't be the case. Disney already did it with Will and Elizabeth. And I don't hope that for Rey. Sure, it's really moving to have that kind of ending with this idea of the child as ultimate gift but I hope it won't be the case.

teltaru wrote:I asked him where Kylo and Rey stand at the end of the movie. He called them star-crossed lovers; said both had feelings for each other but Kylo wanted power, Rey wanted him to let go of it. According to him, Kylo's not giving up on her.

special_cases wrote:Guys

Night Huntress wrote:

special_cases wrote:Guys

@special_cases

don't know how real that is- but maybe he first chooses power at the end of TLJ but will come to realize what he really wants is the girl in IX.

If Snoke is really dead or defeated, they must have some new problems to solve in the next movie...so yeah. Maybe it won't be a classical villain but Kylo's inner conflict.

He definitely saw Rogue One early gave a review just like this. Grain of salt for now but his descriptions actually do line up with reactions.

special_cases wrote:

He definitely saw Rogue One early gave a review just like this. Grain of salt for now but his descriptions actually do line up with reactions.

@FrolickingFizzgig

God, I hope!

If it's a joke, I'm done with spoilers and wait 2 days for the movie.