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by snufkin Fri 17 Jun 2016, 4:58 pm

RE: the part about it hopefully progressing next to an allies arc, this is great about Winter Soldier, Pacific Rim, and Mad Max Fury Road showing that as part of putting women at the center of narratives. Also a repudiation of sorts to the arguments that Rey being a hero means standing alone. Fingers crossed the next chapters work out that way:

“Golden Retriever” Movies: Cooperation and Trust in Action

Sure, it’s only a few movies, but as I thought about it, I could see the comparisons: The “golden retriever” action movie trope is so called because of the main male characters’ cooperative, trusting, and loyal nature. This is a change-up from the regular lone hero — or the anti-hero, or the chosen one, or the subversive spy — because of the focus on trusting another person, with that trust leading to cooperation and then actual results. Because cooperation is tantamount, the male characters’ stories don’t overshadow or subsume space for female characters’ stories, which flourish in tandem with theirs.

the golden retriever trope highlights the idea of cooperation, especially men cooperating with women — not to show off or to save them, but as the way they’ll succeed. Women aren’t important to the story because the male character is interested in them; women are important to the story because they are vital to the plot and the plan against the enemy. The characters don’t always immediately trust each other, but they do have to put their trust in each other within a short amount of time — and what’s rare about the male “golden retriever” characters is that they do this without questioning the female characters’ skills. Each relationship grows as a result of that initial trust when they go into action

The golden retriever trope speaks to people on a personal level because so often, we’re used to not getting that reaction, that which that should be so clear as to go unmentioned. And as we saw in Jess Zimmerman’s piece on emotional labor, and the Metafilter comment section, there are echoes of this lack of parity in real life. In fact, “women’s work” is often denuded as unnecessary, or so invisible that it’s said to be disposable.

But stories that focus on cooperation and show characters succeeding because they trust one another are still important, and can even be revolutionary. Taking down a patriarchal tyrant, breaking down a powerful government structure, destroying a global menace that’s been devastating the world for years — these stories are about changing the way of life as we know it so something new can grow. The characters are able to do that because of their faith in one another, a faith based not on precedence, but on the ability to see past ego to true worth, to acknowledge that they can’t do it alone. And they don’t have to.

by Slade Fri 17 Jun 2016, 6:41 pm

Macha Ren wrote:Okay, as much as I hate the grocery store romance novel look of that poster, it's pretty obvious if LFL is signing off on art to be displayed at the Celebration that Kylo and Rey as a couple is more likely to happen than not.

*and a million antis cried out in pain and were suddenly silenced*

I think what we'll see based the spoilers this far is a progression in their interactions, likely through Ep 9. It will start out as a hate/hate relationship where he is hell bent on leather to get even. But I think there is still an undercurrent of attraction, likely Kylo first then Rey experiencing it second.

From there it will progress to an uneasy detente. I suspect Kylo will want to move toward liberating himself from Snoke. He'll take what his father said to heart about getting crushed and hopefully will figure it out before it is too late. And then they will move toward allies and hopefully lovers.

And in a shallow comment, the picture of Adam practicing in a tank with a farmer tan is adorable. Oh look, he does actually go out in the sun

@Macha Ren

Left to his own devices, Adam often has a tan. He has been ordered not to get one while shooting star wars (at least not his face).

by SoloSideCousin Fri 17 Jun 2016, 6:51 pm

Slade wrote:
Krafty wrote:
Xylo Ren wrote:@Irina de France lol your gifs are perfect, the Luke one is so accurate it hurts

What Anti's wish happened:

JJ Abrams: "Episode VII: Lens Flares and Dueling Cousins" and idk what I'm doing
LF: "Um we need another person on the editing and story board teams...let's go get someone from the McDonald's on the corner."
Disney: "We wish to apologize for any implied relationship between an abusive character and the female protagonist of our story. That was not the intention as we support only healthy relationships in fictional story telling because it influences people in real life." P.S. Don't woobify him, he's irredeemable
Daisy: "Please stop making art of me with my enemy!"
John Boyega: "Finn and Rey were playing some serious romance in TFA. Stay tuned!"
Adam Driver: "I have no acting experience whatsoever, and they kinda chose me as a last resort, not taking this job seriously, lol?"
Mark Hamill: my daughter
Pablo Hidalgo: "Reylo? That's a joke. Wishful thinking."
John Williams: "I have no idea what I'm doing."
Rian Johnson: "here's some leaked photos of Kylo stabbing Rey through the heart."
SW Celebration Panel: "EW GET THAT FLIP FLAPPING REYLO ART OUTTA HERE!"

What actually happened:

JJ Abrams: "Rey's parents aren't in VII"

LF: lol get a room guys

Disney: look at this precious cinnamon roll go to our parks and try to redeem him

Daisy:

John Boyega:

Adam Driver:

Mark Hamill: *likes more Reylo art than I can fit in this post tbh*

Pablo: *has been savage more times than I can fit in the post tbh*

John Williams: *Julliard grad & most nominated Oscar person since Walt Disney* *writes sweeping romance soundtracks with advanced music theory and composition techniques*

Rian Johnson: *look at all these beautiful shots from the island*

SW Celebration Panel:

*high fives*

*The End*
@Xylo Ren

This is the best thing ever!

And Holy crap, Adam's second gif at the end there! Whew! They should strip him down more in the upcoming films, that is too nice to be obstructed by ridiculous bulky robes IMO. Not like they haven't sexualized him enough already lol!
@Krafty

I will add this: look at Adam taking direction from JJ. His hand is still clenched. That's so cute! And that gif of Kylo sneering? Oh, myyyy...sign me up!

@Slade

The dude stays in character. :-)

by MindAndMagic Fri 17 Jun 2016, 6:57 pm

SoloSideCousin wrote:
Slade wrote:
Krafty wrote:
Xylo Ren wrote:@Irina de France lol your gifs are perfect, the Luke one is so accurate it hurts

What Anti's wish happened:

JJ Abrams: "Episode VII: Lens Flares and Dueling Cousins" and idk what I'm doing
LF: "Um we need another person on the editing and story board teams...let's go get someone from the McDonald's on the corner."
Disney: "We wish to apologize for any implied relationship between an abusive character and the female protagonist of our story. That was not the intention as we support only healthy relationships in fictional story telling because it influences people in real life." P.S. Don't woobify him, he's irredeemable
Daisy: "Please stop making art of me with my enemy!"
John Boyega: "Finn and Rey were playing some serious romance in TFA. Stay tuned!"
Adam Driver: "I have no acting experience whatsoever, and they kinda chose me as a last resort, not taking this job seriously, lol?"
Mark Hamill: my daughter
Pablo Hidalgo: "Reylo? That's a joke. Wishful thinking."
John Williams: "I have no idea what I'm doing."
Rian Johnson: "here's some leaked photos of Kylo stabbing Rey through the heart."
SW Celebration Panel: "EW GET THAT FLIP FLAPPING REYLO ART OUTTA HERE!"

What actually happened:

JJ Abrams: "Rey's parents aren't in VII"

LF: lol get a room guys

Disney: look at this precious cinnamon roll go to our parks and try to redeem him

Daisy:

John Boyega:

Adam Driver:

Mark Hamill: *likes more Reylo art than I can fit in this post tbh*

Pablo: *has been savage more times than I can fit in the post tbh*

John Williams: *Julliard grad & most nominated Oscar person since Walt Disney* *writes sweeping romance soundtracks with advanced music theory and composition techniques*

Rian Johnson: *look at all these beautiful shots from the island*

SW Celebration Panel:

*high fives*

*The End*
@Xylo Ren

This is the best thing ever!

And Holy crap, Adam's second gif at the end there! Whew! They should strip him down more in the upcoming films, that is too nice to be obstructed by ridiculous bulky robes IMO. Not like they haven't sexualized him enough already lol!
@Krafty

I will add this: look at Adam taking direction from JJ. His hand is still clenched. That's so cute! And that gif of Kylo sneering? Oh, myyyy...sign me up!
@Slade

The dude stays in character. :-)

@SoloSideCousin

Absolutely, always in character, I think he is a method actor, one of the best! Utterly brilliant! I can totally sense Kylo in this picture with JJ. Vulnerable, intense, attentive and totally adorable. Sorry, not much to add here, just really wanted to have all of those gifs/comments in my posts history! Very Happy

by Slade Fri 17 Jun 2016, 7:01 pm

Yes he is a method actor.

by Sylvia Snow Fri 17 Jun 2016, 7:05 pm

These are my favorite gifs of Kylo. He's so cute even JJ knows that

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by Guest Fri 17 Jun 2016, 7:09 pm

Slade wrote:Yes he is a method actor.

@Slade

Definitely.

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JJ talks to Daisy while Adam is still being 100% Kylo.

by IoJovi Fri 17 Jun 2016, 7:15 pm

"Now Daisy, I want you to eye him up and down from head to toe after he unmasks. But act like you're trying to hide it. You don't want him to catch you looking at his goods. But you are most definitely trying to get an eyeful of what he's got going on..."

by ZioRen Fri 17 Jun 2016, 7:21 pm

Adam is definitely method, I love it! I wonder what his workout routine for Star Wars is, since Daisy's is so intense. He might not have time to clock quite as many hours as she does since he's filming a bunch of other stuff lately, but I'm sure it's impressive (and hopefully we have a shirtless scene in VIII to show it off Wink

)

by Guest Fri 17 Jun 2016, 7:30 pm

ZioRen wrote:Adam is definitely method, I love it! I wonder what his workout routine for Star Wars is, since Daisy's is so intense. He might not have time to clock quite as many hours as she does since he's filming a bunch of other stuff lately, but I'm sure it's impressive (and hopefully we have a shirtless scene in VIII to show it off )

@ZioRen

Adam was certainly up and at 'em when he was in Ireland according to this report http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/movies/movie-news/from-a-galaxy-far-far-away-to-a-gym-in-dingle-at-5am-34741048.html In the gym with his personal trainer as early as 5am. That's dedication!

by IoJovi Fri 17 Jun 2016, 7:32 pm

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:
ZioRen wrote:Adam is definitely method, I love it! I wonder what his workout routine for Star Wars is, since Daisy's is so intense. He might not have time to clock quite as many hours as she does since he's filming a bunch of other stuff lately, but I'm sure it's impressive (and hopefully we have a shirtless scene in VIII to show it off )
@ZioRen

Adam was certainly up and at 'em when he was in Ireland according to this report http://www.independent.ie/entertainment/movies/movie-news/from-a-galaxy-far-far-away-to-a-gym-in-dingle-at-5am-34741048.html In the gym with his personal trainer as early as 5am. That's dedication!

@Mrs Ben Solo

Here's to hoping for a glimpse of Kylo Ren's 8-pack in VIII!!!! bounce

by snufkin Fri 17 Jun 2016, 8:24 pm

MelBee wrote:I showed my friend the art chosen and she said the bridal carry one reminds her of this...

@MelBee

OMG, Popocatépetl and Iztaccíhuatl! They could sell them like the calendars you get from your local taqueria at the beginning of the year.

by Sylvia Snow Fri 17 Jun 2016, 8:54 pm

Slade wrote:
WhatGirl wrote:
Xylo Ren wrote:
LF: lol get a room guys

He's so close to her, she can probably feel his breath on her neck. Can you imagine if Rey had turned her head right then? Oh my. Their faces would've been mere inches apart and they would be looking directly into each other's eyes. It's rather a good thing that didn't happen, or else this PG-rated interrogation scene would've turned into an R-rated bedroom scene in .05 seconds flat.

I'm sorry, I know this isn't adding anything to the discussion. LOL!
@WhatGirl

No, this is important! Kylo looks so pensive, and Rey looks like she is thinking "oh, what a strange new sensation I am experiencing! I say!" And Kylo's hindbrain is just going "girl! Girl! Girl!" and short circuiting.

@Slade

OMG! I'm laughing so much with just imagine

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by Macha Ren Fri 17 Jun 2016, 9:07 pm

Slade wrote:
Macha Ren wrote:Okay, as much as I hate the grocery store romance novel look of that poster, it's pretty obvious if LFL is signing off on art to be displayed at the Celebration that Kylo and Rey as a couple is more likely to happen than not.

*and a million antis cried out in pain and were suddenly silenced*

I think what we'll see based the spoilers this far is a progression in their interactions, likely through Ep 9. It will start out as a hate/hate relationship where he is hell bent on leather to get even. But I think there is still an undercurrent of attraction, likely Kylo first then Rey experiencing it second.

From there it will progress to an uneasy detente. I suspect Kylo will want to move toward liberating himself from Snoke. He'll take what his father said to heart about getting crushed and hopefully will figure it out before it is too late. And then they will move toward allies and hopefully lovers.

And in a shallow comment, the picture of Adam practicing in a tank with a farmer tan is adorable. Oh look, he does actually go out in the sun
@Macha Ren

Left to his own devices, Adam often has a tan. He has been ordered not to get one while shooting star wars (at least not his face).

@Slade

oh I know he's more tan in real life. It was the farmer tan that got me. For some reason, it's adorably charming.

by Xylo Ren Fri 17 Jun 2016, 9:21 pm

IoJovi wrote:"Now Daisy, I want you to eye him up and down from head to toe after he unmasks. But act like you're trying to hide it. You don't want him to catch you looking at his goods. But you are most definitely trying to get an eyeful of what he's got going on..."

JJ: "And then Adam, you look at her like you've eaten nothing but bird seed your whole life and then someone puts a heaping plate of steak right in front of you."
Adam: ...
Daisy: ...
Adam: "But aren't we related?"
Daisy: "But don't we hate each other?"
JJ: *lol*

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by Little_Boots Fri 17 Jun 2016, 9:29 pm

Sylvia Snow wrote:
Slade wrote:
WhatGirl wrote:
Xylo Ren wrote:
LF: lol get a room guys

He's so close to her, she can probably feel his breath on her neck. Can you imagine if Rey had turned her head right then? Oh my. Their faces would've been mere inches apart and they would be looking directly into each other's eyes. It's rather a good thing that didn't happen, or else this PG-rated interrogation scene would've turned into an R-rated bedroom scene in .05 seconds flat.

I'm sorry, I know this isn't adding anything to the discussion. LOL!
@WhatGirl

No, this is important! Kylo looks so pensive, and Rey looks like she is thinking "oh, what a strange new sensation I am experiencing! I say!" And Kylo's hindbrain is just going "girl! Girl! Girl!" and short circuiting.
@Slade

OMG! I'm laughing so much with just imagine

@Sylvia Snow

I know antis would say "Oh Rey is terrified in that scene, how can you ship her with this maniac, how dare you she is only young, she is our hero, she lost her family, how dare you try and pair her with this monster"............ok, but this scene goes against all that. Kylo fancies Rey so stfu haha

by Xylo Ren Fri 17 Jun 2016, 9:30 pm

Airemyn wrote:The new 'bridal carry' art is a bit cheesy for my tastes in terms of the outlandish style, but no one can deny the raw sexuality of it.

Although I'm sure there are those can (and will) try.

A small part of me would put it on my wall though if I could get it. Simply because it proves we are not insane shippers.

Damn he looks hot, can you imagine it without the helmet?! Maybe the artist should give that a try.

AGREED AND SUBSCRIBED

Queen of the Knights wrote:
SoloSideCousin wrote:
Slade wrote:
Krafty wrote:
Xylo Ren wrote:@Irina de France lol your gifs are perfect, the Luke one is so accurate it hurts

What Anti's wish happened:

JJ Abrams: "Episode VII: Lens Flares and Dueling Cousins" and idk what I'm doing
LF: "Um we need another person on the editing and story board teams...let's go get someone from the McDonald's on the corner."
Disney: "We wish to apologize for any implied relationship between an abusive character and the female protagonist of our story. That was not the intention as we support only healthy relationships in fictional story telling because it influences people in real life." P.S. Don't woobify him, he's irredeemable
Daisy: "Please stop making art of me with my enemy!"
John Boyega: "Finn and Rey were playing some serious romance in TFA. Stay tuned!"
Adam Driver: "I have no acting experience whatsoever, and they kinda chose me as a last resort, not taking this job seriously, lol?"
Mark Hamill: my daughter
Pablo Hidalgo: "Reylo? That's a joke. Wishful thinking."
John Williams: "I have no idea what I'm doing."
Rian Johnson: "here's some leaked photos of Kylo stabbing Rey through the heart."
SW Celebration Panel: "EW GET THAT FLIP FLAPPING REYLO ART OUTTA HERE!"

What actually happened:

JJ Abrams: "Rey's parents aren't in VII"

LF: lol get a room guys

Disney: look at this precious cinnamon roll go to our parks and try to redeem him

Daisy:

John Boyega:

Adam Driver:

Mark Hamill: *likes more Reylo art than I can fit in this post tbh*

Pablo: *has been savage more times than I can fit in the post tbh*

John Williams: *Julliard grad & most nominated Oscar person since Walt Disney* *writes sweeping romance soundtracks with advanced music theory and composition techniques*

Rian Johnson: *look at all these beautiful shots from the island*

SW Celebration Panel:

*high fives*

*The End*
@Xylo Ren

This is the best thing ever!

And Holy crap, Adam's second gif at the end there! Whew! They should strip him down more in the upcoming films, that is too nice to be obstructed by ridiculous bulky robes IMO. Not like they haven't sexualized him enough already lol!
@Krafty

I will add this: look at Adam taking direction from JJ. His hand is still clenched. That's so cute! And that gif of Kylo sneering? Oh, myyyy...sign me up!
@Slade

The dude stays in character. :-)
@SoloSideCousin

Yep, I think he is a method actor. I can totally sense Kylo in this picture with JJ. Sorry, not much to add here, just really wanted to have all of those gifs/comments in my posts history!

Thanks guys, it took a lot of work. I was exhausted after making this post Sleep

by Xylo Ren Fri 17 Jun 2016, 9:36 pm

Sylvia Snow wrote:These are my favorite gifs of Kylo. He's so cute even JJ knows that

he's a hulking softy bear with chocolate hair...what's not to love?

by Krafty Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:02 pm

IoJovi wrote:"Now Daisy, I want you to eye him up and down from head to toe after he unmasks. But act like you're trying to hide it. You don't want him to catch you looking at his goods. But you are most definitely trying to get an eyeful of what he's got going on..."

@IoJovi

Oh. My. Goodness. This is amazing!
I so hope he said that. I almost feel like he may have really said something like this!
How could he not?

by Slade Fri 17 Jun 2016, 11:41 pm

Xylo Ren wrote:
Sylvia Snow wrote:These are my favorite gifs of Kylo. He's so cute even JJ knows that

he's a hulking softy bear with chocolate hair...what's not to love?

@Xylo Ren

These gifs must be commented on. I love that first one where JJ appears to be encouraging Adam. So cute! And Kylo's puppy dog face in the last one! I just want to pet his head!

by SoloSideCousin Sat 18 Jun 2016, 12:19 am

Slade wrote:
Xylo Ren wrote:
Sylvia Snow wrote:These are my favorite gifs of Kylo. He's so cute even JJ knows that

he's a hulking softy bear with chocolate hair...what's not to love?
@Xylo Ren

These gifs must be commented on. I love that first one where JJ appears to be encouraging Adam. So cute! And Kylo's puppy dog face in the last one! I just want to pet his head!

@Slade

All the gifs are amazing, but I really love that last one! :-)

by Rei of Sunshine Sat 18 Jun 2016, 4:52 am

I have that JJ Adam gif on my phone. When I have a bad day, I just look at how JJ awkwardly fist bumps AD's arm and I'm all good. hahaha I love you

by EchoBase Sat 18 Jun 2016, 5:04 am

The TFA comic will be released soon and this is one of the variant covers:

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I really like it. More covers you can find here:

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/06/comic-preview-marvels-star-wars-the-force-awakens-1/

by Rei of Sunshine Sat 18 Jun 2016, 7:10 am

EchoBase wrote:The TFA comic will be released soon and this is one of the variant covers:

I really like it. More covers you can find here:

http://makingstarwars.net/2016/06/comic-preview-marvels-star-wars-the-force-awakens-1/

@EchoBase

You think there will be different takes on some scenes? Coz I've read some Marvel comic versions of their MCU, and some scenes were either cut, or there are scenes and dialouge that didnt really happen in the movie but added substance to the story.

I'd like to see them expand a bit more on Reylo scenes, such as the compassion thing. Very Happy

by Guest Sat 18 Jun 2016, 7:14 am

Rei of Sunshine wrote:@EchoBase

You think there will be different takes on some scenes? Coz I've read some Marvel comic versions of their MCU, and some scenes were either cut, or there are scenes and dialouge that didnt really happen in the movie but added substance to the story.

I'd like to see them expand a bit more on Reylo scenes, such as the compassion thing.

@Rei of Sunshine

I can almost guarantee it! There were a lot of things depicted differently in the comics of the previous movies, so this one should be no different. I wouldn't be surprised if they include things that were cut from the film but included in the script and novel, like the compassion scene.

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