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Post by Maria26 Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:05 am

So now the leaks are too Reylo? Suspect

I, for one, think that Kreganyong is the closest to what we're actually gonna have than some of the bullshit I've so far coming from other people who supposedly have seen the movie.
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Post by DarthRen Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:24 am

Somthing from this leak seems suspicious. We saw Rey sort of kneeling before Leia (it looks like it) or been with her on Crait. What if she really has bad news and something similar happens?
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Post by Kyla Ren Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:27 am

Maria26 wrote:So now the leaks are too Reylo? Suspect

I, for one, think that Kreganyong is the closest to what we're actually gonna have than some of the bullshit I've so far coming from other people who supposedly have seen the movie.
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I don't think the leaks can ever be too Reylo as far as what I would like to see happen in TLJ.  I just don't know how realistic the really Reylo leaks are after some of Rian's remarks.  But who knows.

In any case, if this leak were true, I think I would be very happy with the movie.  But I kind of lean towards saying it's fake for various reasons, mainly because he doesn't say what happens to Leia (unless I missed it somewhere in the thread, which is entirely possible), and that whole thing about droid independence.  That sounds more like Star Trek than Star Wars.  But again, who knows.  I guess we'll find out in December.
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Post by DarthRen Sat 30 Sep 2017, 5:30 am

ISeeAnIsland wrote:Remember the "Luke thinks Chewie is a sellout" "leak" from a little while back?  We have a lovely crack update, courtesy of 4chan/reddit. Enjoy!

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https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/73bfn2/new_possible_leak_that_gives_more_info_on_4chan/
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Didn't this person said that Kylo and Rey have a sexual tension or something?
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Post by vaderito Sat 30 Sep 2017, 6:19 am

ISeeAnIsland wrote:No exploding hut, but we have yet another new "leak" from 4chan. This one is pretty Reylotastic, and at least the person did seem to pay some attention to (some) spoilers:

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Edit:  I'm having trouble uploading the screenshot.  Here's the link to the "leak":

https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/73c0ub/the_latest_4chan_leak_i_actually_like_this_one/

Edit 2: Further down the reddit thread, someone posted the original 4chan link:

http://boards.4chan.org/tv/thread/88342256
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Sorry, I couldn't finish this BS. It doesn't match with anything especially Finn and Rose part. They are not imprisoned on SSD, they return to Crait just fine and fly skimmers.
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Post by Maria26 Sat 30 Sep 2017, 7:51 am

@Kyla Ren

I never said those leaks were true. I said that so far, this was the closest to what I think will happen. What was posted by various "leakers" over the weeks is just not happening. It's untrue. It's badly written. They haven't seen the movie. Well, he does say that Kylo somehow saves Leia. So my guess is that she's pretty much fine at the end of TLJ. Of course, with Carrie's passing, it's kiind hard to know what they're really going to do. There are some suspicious stuff, he doesn't talk at all about a Sea Monster, the hut scene or anything close to what we've been hearing from legit people.

" I just don't know how realistic the really Reylo leaks are after some of Rian's remarks.  But who knows."This is where I disagree. Rian said Rey and Kylo are two halves of the same person and that there won't be any big obvious romance...nothing in those leaks goes againt what Rian said.
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Post by DarthRen Sat 30 Sep 2017, 10:02 am

Few more things put together from that 4chan person.

https://imgur.com/a/myg4C
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Post by Man Without A Star Sat 30 Sep 2017, 10:25 am

DarthRen wrote:Few more things put together from that 4chan person.

https://imgur.com/a/myg4C
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Hmm, to be honest, the bit about Luke believing that his family is doomed to fall to the dark side, does sound intriguing.
"He essentialy believes that having the "power" of the Force will inevitably corrupt its wielder and starts the next cycle of violence."
I have been thinking about this line of thought for a long while now and its certainly a fertile ground to explore.

When I look at the Star Wars history in general, its always that...Dark Side rises to topple the Light. There is always someone or something that upsets the status quo and is hell bent on gaining as much power as possible. I can see Luke being incredibly frustrated by that. The future of the entire Jedi Order has been placed on his shoulders and he failed.

I am also curious about the part that says that Anakin's ghost dissapeared, because he did something that other ghosts did not understand until now.
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Post by Piper Maru Sat 30 Sep 2017, 10:35 am

I want to believe™️.

This leak is very cohesive and coherent with what we already know, and I'd like for it to be true. Let's be honest: the "wow" factor gets lost after 2 years of speculation and theories. We're not surprised by the things that person wrote because we already talked about them for hours.
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Post by Kylo Men Sat 30 Sep 2017, 11:24 am

Some of that leak sounds really great and some of it heavily implausible and unlikely.

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Post by Maria26 Sat 30 Sep 2017, 11:34 am

Piper Maru wrote:I want to believe™️.

This leak is very cohesive and coherent with what we already know, and I'd like for it to be true. Let's be honest: the "wow" factor gets lost after 2 years of speculation and theories. We're not surprised by the things that person wrote because we already talked about them for hours.
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I have to agree. I don't even think I can be surprised at this point.

Anyway, those leaks are most likely fake but I find it impressive how some people have so much imagination that they can come upwith those kind of scenarios.
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Post by Kylo Men Sat 30 Sep 2017, 11:50 am

I'm not sure. Does it subtract from the experience by eliminating the suspense? Or does it add because either one of them is true, and you want to know which one, or none of them will be true and you'll be even more shocked?

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Post by ZioRen Sat 30 Sep 2017, 1:10 pm

I don't buy it, but it tickles me immensely that a lot of recent leaks have been rather Reylo-heavy. Finally people are understanding that it's a likely story direction, or at least that their relationship will be very important. It took Rian stating the obvious (that we've been saying for years) for folks to finally get it through their thick heads. Laughing
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Post by DarthRen Sat 30 Sep 2017, 1:25 pm

Piper Maru wrote:I want to believe™️.

This leak is very cohesive and coherent with what we already know, and I'd like for it to be true. Let's be honest: the "wow" factor gets lost after 2 years of speculation and theories. We're not surprised by the things that person wrote because we already talked about them for hours.
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Thee is a lot of things missing and it's like others. Luke and Rey are the heart of the story and here nothing. Reylo action sounds believeble apart from come back and crying, I mean I don't see that happeing. Not in this movie. Where is the hut scene between Kylo and Rey? No suspense, this movies is supposed to be different from the rest. Lack of Finn, old Snoke Vampire storyline rehash that has been going on 4chan. Few good things but many inconsistent with it.
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Post by snufkin Sat 30 Sep 2017, 2:05 pm

I'm pretty sure my being surprised is going to be along the lines of "so that's how they decided to work out ______ plot point or _____character arc." Because like @Piper Maru said, we've already put in the time discussing/debating what we saw, so some of what we've gone over are likely discussions the creative team had when putting the story together.

One thing about a Kylo speech, maybe what happened with Ben being sent off to Luke was in seeing the scenario shown in Bloodline. The less influential/powerful communities in the NR were essentially left to fend for themselves, hence people like Casterfo having nostalgia for the Empire because there was supposedly more of an infrastructure. So if the two of them were traveling around and seeing these situations, such as somebody like Rey and the poverty/company town situation she was trapped in, there could have been a rift between uncle and nephew over how to respond. Because the PT showed that the Jedi's downfall was in part by getting involved and turning into a police force versus an order.
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Post by Kyla Ren Sat 30 Sep 2017, 4:49 pm

Maria26 wrote:@Kyla Ren

I never said those leaks were true. I said that so far, this was the closest to what I think will happen. What was posted by various "leakers" over the weeks is just not happening. It's untrue. It's badly written. They haven't seen the movie. Well, he does say that Kylo somehow saves Leia. So my guess is that she's pretty much fine at the end of TLJ. Of course, with Carrie's passing, it's kiind hard to know what they're really going to do. There are some suspicious stuff, he doesn't talk at all about a Sea Monster, the hut scene or anything close to what we've been hearing from legit people.

" I just don't know how realistic the really Reylo leaks are after some of Rian's remarks.  But who knows."This is where I disagree. Rian said Rey and Kylo are two halves of the same person and that there won't be any big obvious romance...nothing in those leaks goes againt what Rian said.
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Oh, I know you didn't.  I didn't mean to imply that.  I just meant that I myself always enjoy leaks that have a lot of Reylo in them, but that at the same time, I just don't think a lot of them are real.  I would actually be really happy if some of the Reylo stuff these leakers come up with turned out to be true.
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Post by ReyofLightSide Sat 30 Sep 2017, 7:40 pm

ZioRen wrote:I don't buy it, but it tickles me immensely that a lot of recent leaks have been rather Reylo-heavy. Finally people are understanding that it's a likely story direction, or at least that their relationship will be very important. It took Rian stating the obvious (that we've been saying for years) for folks to finally get it through their thick heads. Laughing
@ZioRen

My favorite part of the leak was Kylo basically Independence Day-ing the ship at the end to save them. Laughing

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Post by IoJovi Sat 30 Sep 2017, 7:46 pm

ReyofLightSide wrote:
ZioRen wrote:I don't buy it, but it tickles me immensely that a lot of recent leaks have been rather Reylo-heavy. Finally people are understanding that it's a likely story direction, or at least that their relationship will be very important. It took Rian stating the obvious (that we've been saying for years) for folks to finally get it through their thick heads. Laughing
@ZioRen

My favorite part of the leak was Kylo basically Independence Day-ing the ship at the end to save them. Laughing

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lol! lol!

This is hilarious...

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Post by Birdwoman Sat 30 Sep 2017, 8:06 pm

Haha! I can't stop laughing...
Especially imagining a unconscious Kylo floating by Rey's window.....

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Post by SoloSideCousin Sat 30 Sep 2017, 8:11 pm

IoJovi wrote:
ReyofLightSide wrote:
ZioRen wrote:I don't buy it, but it tickles me immensely that a lot of recent leaks have been rather Reylo-heavy. Finally people are understanding that it's a likely story direction, or at least that their relationship will be very important. It took Rian stating the obvious (that we've been saying for years) for folks to finally get it through their thick heads. Laughing
@ZioRen

My favorite part of the leak was Kylo basically Independence Day-ing the ship at the end to save them. Laughing

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@ReyofLightSide

lol! lol!

This is hilarious...

@IoJovi

I am laughing so hard at this. Very Happy I know that Randy Quaid has had some kind of breakdown and legal troubles in recent years, but I always thought he was one of the funniest actors ever. He also could do strong dramatic work when given the opportunity.
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Post by Birdwoman Sat 30 Sep 2017, 11:26 pm

More crack.....trailer spoiler...Razz

Luke Skywalker shown from behind floating above a boulder.
Close up on his face. The surroundings change. He has visions of the night in the throne room. Of being tortured by the Emperor. As his face curls into anger, Rey places her hand on Luke’s shoulder and the scenery goes back to normal when he opens his eyes.
Rey “I was hoping we could start now”
Lucasfilm fanfare
General Hux, on a Star Destroyer Bridge to Captain Phasma “No prisoners. That’s an order.”
Massive battle in space.
Poe in a Med Bay “We need to regroup”
Snap “There’s an old base that may be salvageable in the Crait system.”
Pan up showing Crait landscape.
Hux “They’ve been joined by the remainder of the Republic fleet.”
Star cruisers, Admiral Holdo
Leia “There’s something we need you to do.”
This Christmas
Rose BB8 and Finn in a crammed cockpit
Rose “That’s Catonica”
A desert planet with an ocean and structures built on the ocean.
A massive casino hall with hundreds of aliens shouting and gambling
Snoke with Kylo Ren knelt in front of him.
Kylo Ren “I can feel the girl”
Rey running alongside a cliff.
Cut to black.
Snoke “Then go to her.”
Poe in his X Wing trying to shake a TIE fighter.
Chewbacca piloting the Falcon under heavy fire
Gorilla Walkers on Crait HAULING a**
Phasma up in Finn’s face.
Hux grabs a FO personnel by the throat.
Luke Skywalker falls to his knees as a structure burns
Rey looks horrified at something off screen
A Porg hops up on Artoo’s head
Praetorian Guards step aggressively toward someone off screen
Kylo Ren shoots down a bomber in his TIE Fighter
A distraught Finn is restrained by executioners
Snoke slams his fist on his throne
Leia looking extremely upset, almost angry
The skids on Crait
Finn and Rose holding on tight as the Faltier outruns Canto Bight police.
A Star Destroyer and a Republic Cruiser exchange fire
Snoke “Now the Jedi”
Luke Skywalker in the rain and pissed.
Kylo Ren in the same setting, lightsaber ignited.
Cut to black.
Snoke “...are no more”
STAR WARS THE LAST JEDI TITLE CARD.

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Post by IoJovi Sat 30 Sep 2017, 11:30 pm

This one had me at “I can feel the girl...” Laughing
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Post by Tex Sat 30 Sep 2017, 11:46 pm

IoJovi wrote:This one had me at “I can feel the girl...”  Laughing
@IoJovi
lol! I also love that Snoke says, then go to her. Loving all these reylo inspired crack spoilers.
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Post by ISeeAnIsland Sun 01 Oct 2017, 12:38 am

Also, I thought I read somewhere that Greg Grunberg wasn't returning for TLJ?
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Post by Darth_Awakened Sun 01 Oct 2017, 12:55 am

Oh I see someone had more than a few pints again. lol!
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