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@BastilaBeyBastilaBey wrote:Lmao http://www.timeout.com/london/blog/who-are-reys-parents-the-answer-is-in-the-force-awakens-reckons-star-wars-star-daisy-ridley-120516
I'm not sure how much clearer Daisy can make this. She thinks it was answered in TFA because she's not a solo or Skywalker but most audiences didn't realize.
God they could have Luke say he's impotent or infertile, find her birth certificate, and have that 'rumored' episode VIII sex scene between her and Ben and there would still be people who will be confused and think she's Luke's kid.
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@WhatGirlWhatGirl wrote:@BastilaBeyBastilaBey wrote:Lmao http://www.timeout.com/london/blog/who-are-reys-parents-the-answer-is-in-the-force-awakens-reckons-star-wars-star-daisy-ridley-120516
I'm not sure how much clearer Daisy can make this. She thinks it was answered in TFA because she's not a solo or Skywalker but most audiences didn't realize.Did we miss something in 'The Force Awakens'? This morning, Time Out caught up with 'Star Wars' actress and proud Londoner Daisy Ridley to discuss her work as a narrator on superb upcoming documentary 'The Eagle Huntress', but we couldn't help slipping in a 'Star Wars' question at the end. Ridley has already revealed that in the as-yet-untitled Episode VIII, due in 2017, we'll learn a lot more about her character Rey's mysterious backstory. We asked if it'd feel good to get the secret off her chest – and her answer startled us. 'I thought a lot was answered in "The Force Awakens",' she said. 'Then after the screening I went for a drink with my agent and everyone, and we were chatting away and I realised that oh, in their minds it’s not answered at all!'
Is she messing with us? Did every audience around the world manage to miss some vital clue? Or are we just reading too much into this still-fairly-cryptic answer? Ridley seems happy to keep things ambiguous: 'I think curiosity is a wonderful thing,' she told us. 'And I do find it quite funny that people keep asking about it. Just yesterday a guy asked to take a picture with me, and went "Is Luke your Dad"? And I was like, "chill out, you’ll see"!' So does she think people are going to be surprised when they find out the truth? 'I'd love to see the look on people's faces,' she says. 'But with answers come more questions, and there's definitely going to be enough to keep people going for another two years!'
She's either random or a Kenobi I'm thinking.
Random because of how much it gets emphasized in the movie that she's "no one" and "just a scavenger" by her and other characters.
But, also possibly a Kenobi since Obi-Wan's the only one who directly addresses her by name in the Force vision. She's someone to him.
The only other person who noticed her in the vision was Kylo. "The girl I've heard so much about."
She means something to these two men.
The vision was about the past, present, and future. She hadn't met Kylo yet so he's obviously important to her in the future.
Obi-Wan is dead, so if he has any meaning to her at all, it'd be from the past imo.
That's really why his birth name reveal by Han (which if that was HF's idea, genius idea) was the shock for me. Because those were the two people who spoke/saw her. And one is the other's namesake.
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@snufkinsnufkin wrote:@BastilaBeyBastilaBey wrote:Lmao http://www.timeout.com/london/blog/who-are-reys-parents-the-answer-is-in-the-force-awakens-reckons-star-wars-star-daisy-ridley-120516
I'm not sure how much clearer Daisy can make this. She thinks it was answered in TFA because she's not a solo or Skywalker but most audiences didn't realize.
God they could have Luke say he's impotent or infertile, find her birth certificate, and have that 'rumored' episode VIII sex scene between her and Ben and there would still be people who will be confused and think she's Luke's kid.
Well you know that expression 'can't see the wood for the trees!!'
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@snufkinsnufkin wrote:@BastilaBeyBastilaBey wrote:Lmao http://www.timeout.com/london/blog/who-are-reys-parents-the-answer-is-in-the-force-awakens-reckons-star-wars-star-daisy-ridley-120516
I'm not sure how much clearer Daisy can make this. She thinks it was answered in TFA because she's not a solo or Skywalker but most audiences didn't realize.
God they could have Luke say he's impotent or infertile, find her birth certificate, and have that 'rumored' episode VIII sex scene between her and Ben and there would still be people who will be confused and think she's Luke's kid.
You can bet on it! I believe that even if Reylo happens (in all possible ways in EPs VIII), even if it is clear that she is not Luke's daughter ... we will still have some fanboys saying that Leia also kissed Luke without knowing they were brothers, That Luke never knew of the existence of the "daughter", that Rey was adopted and in fact her name is Padmé (kkkkkk ... this detail is part of a theory that I read in the community of Jedi society from Brazil).
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I'am having a bit of "oh no" moment.
Because of the last sentence: 'But with answers come more questions, and there's definitely going to be enough to keep people going for another two years!'
I'am terrified of two more years discussing the issue that is Rey's parentage.
Hopefully she is trolling.
Current mood:
Because of the last sentence: 'But with answers come more questions, and there's definitely going to be enough to keep people going for another two years!'
I'am terrified of two more years discussing the issue that is Rey's parentage.
Hopefully she is trolling.
Current mood:
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@Darth_AwakenedDarth_Awakened wrote:I'am having a bit of "oh no" moment.
Because of the last sentence: 'But with answers come more questions, and there's definitely going to be enough to keep people going for another two years!'
I'am terrified of two more years discussing the issue that is Rey's parentage.
Hopefully she is trolling.
Haha, yes, I noticed that two. To me, that hints at three (not mutually exclusive) possibilities:
* She's a descendent of a family where we don't know who her direct parent(s) would be. E.g, We find out that she's a Kenobi or a Palpatine, but don't get many details on her parents.
* We find out who she is, but don't get many details on how she ended up on Jakku the way that she did.
* We find out about one parent...but there's a hint or upcoming reveal (in IX) about who her other parent is. If this is the case, I really really really hope that we find out who her father is so that we can finally eliminate Reywalker.
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@ISeeAnIslandISeeAnIsland wrote:@Darth_AwakenedDarth_Awakened wrote:I'am having a bit of "oh no" moment.
Because of the last sentence: 'But with answers come more questions, and there's definitely going to be enough to keep people going for another two years!'
I'am terrified of two more years discussing the issue that is Rey's parentage.
Hopefully she is trolling.
Haha, yes, I noticed that two. To me, that hints at three (not mutually exclusive) possibilities:
* She's a descendent of a family where we don't know who her direct parent(s) would be. E.g, We find out that she's a Kenobi or a Palpatine, but don't get many details on her parents.
* We find out who she is, but don't get many details on how she ended up on Jakku the way that she did.
* We find out about one parent...but there's a hint or upcoming reveal (in IX) about who her other parent is. If this is the case, I really really really hope that we find out who her father is so that we can finally eliminate Reywalker.
Believe me, in my current vulture mood, I would be happy enough that every bit of possibility of her being Skywalker or Solo would be erased in VIII . Though, I know it would not be enough for some people.
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The "I'd love to see the look on people's faces" quote from Daisy makes me think that it's going to be something surprising. Unless she just thinks that everyone is going to be shocked that she's not Luke's kid.
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@ISeeAnIslandISeeAnIsland wrote:The "I'd love to see the look on people's faces" quote from Daisy makes me think that it's going to be something surprising. Unless she just thinks that everyone is going to be shocked that she's not Luke's kid.
I want to believe that Daisy said that, precisely because Rey is not Luke's daughter. Because otherwise, it would not cause such a surprise that she hopes ... I say this because the great mass, expect Luke to be the father ... here in Brazil is to be depressing, to see so many people with this belief (but we have a few exceptions ).
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@Magnolia_3.0Magnolia_3.0 wrote:@snufkinsnufkin wrote:@BastilaBeyBastilaBey wrote:Lmao http://www.timeout.com/london/blog/who-are-reys-parents-the-answer-is-in-the-force-awakens-reckons-star-wars-star-daisy-ridley-120516
I'm not sure how much clearer Daisy can make this. She thinks it was answered in TFA because she's not a solo or Skywalker but most audiences didn't realize.
God they could have Luke say he's impotent or infertile, find her birth certificate, and have that 'rumored' episode VIII sex scene between her and Ben and there would still be people who will be confused and think she's Luke's kid.
You can bet on it! I believe that even if Reylo happens (in all possible ways in EPs VIII), even if it is clear that she is not Luke's daughter ... we will still have some fanboys saying that Leia also kissed Luke without knowing they were brothers, That Luke never knew of the existence of the "daughter", that Rey was adopted and in fact her name is Padmé (kkkkkk ... this detail is part of a theory that I read in the community of Jedi society from Brazil).
Sadly, someone said that when I told them about Reylo.
And what makes it funny is said person hadn't even seen TFA and he thought Rey could be Luke's daughter. Yeeeeaahhhhhh, Rey Skywalker is a real twist and surprise when people who haven't even seen the movie are guessing it.
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Ridley has already revealed that in the as-yet-untitled Episode VIII, due in 2017, we'll learn a lot more about her character Rey's mysterious backstory. We asked if it'd feel good to get the secret off her chest – and her answer startled us. 'I thought a lot was answered in "The Force Awakens",' she said. 'Then after the screening I went for a drink with my agent and everyone, and we were chatting away and I realised that oh, in their minds it’s not answered at all!'
I guess this bodes well for any theory really if you think random and tfa answers it by pointing to random.
Imo of course, things like the moment below were huge answers to who she may be
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Yeah there are soooooo many people out there who are expecting Rey to be revealed as Luke's long lost secret love child that how could anyone possibly expect a shock reaction from an audience. The shock would go against their expectations and that is what we all want on here.
In the clip posted by @Gemini I've heard never ending belief that Luke is looking at her in a paternal way that I really just want to pull my eyes out (as if he's thinking 'oh my gosh it's my long lost secret daughter who I abandoned on a dump of a desert planet in the care of a sleaze bag as a little kid and never told my family about').
Luke looks angry and his focus is more on what she's holding than who she is (more like he's thinking 'where the hell did you get that from and who the hell are you?')
I dunno sometimes you just have to shake your head and hope.
This may sound mean but I kinda want Jyn Erso to be killed off in RO - only to shush the Jyn is Rey's Mother claimants once and for all.
In the clip posted by @Gemini I've heard never ending belief that Luke is looking at her in a paternal way that I really just want to pull my eyes out (as if he's thinking 'oh my gosh it's my long lost secret daughter who I abandoned on a dump of a desert planet in the care of a sleaze bag as a little kid and never told my family about').
Luke looks angry and his focus is more on what she's holding than who she is (more like he's thinking 'where the hell did you get that from and who the hell are you?')
I dunno sometimes you just have to shake your head and hope.
This may sound mean but I kinda want Jyn Erso to be killed off in RO - only to shush the Jyn is Rey's Mother claimants once and for all.
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@Rogue ReyRogue Rey wrote:Yeah there are soooooo many people out there who are expecting Rey to be revealed as Luke's long lost secret love child that how could anyone possibly expect a shock reaction from an audience. The shock would go against their expectations and that is what we all want on here.
In the clip posted by @Gemini I've heard never ending belief that Luke is looking at her in a paternal way that I really just want to pull my eyes out (as if he's thinking 'oh my gosh it's my long lost secret daughter who I abandoned on a dump of a desert planet in the care of a sleaze bag as a little kid and never told my family about').
Luke looks angry and his focus is more on what she's holding than who she is (more like he's thinking 'where the hell did you get that from and who the hell are you?')
I dunno sometimes you just have to shake your head and hope.
This may sound mean but I kinda want Jyn Erso to be killed off in RO - only to shush the Jyn is Rey's Mother claimants once and for all.
It's funny how they think it screams "daddy" these people have loved Star Wars their whole life and they can't remember the actual gesture we are seeing here? Lol
If you read the screenplay for that moment, it doesn't read like he doesn't know who she is when she does that.
It says she's passing it to him to get him back to the fight. He knows what it means
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@Magnolia_3.0Magnolia_3.0 wrote:@ISeeAnIslandISeeAnIsland wrote:The "I'd love to see the look on people's faces" quote from Daisy makes me think that it's going to be something surprising. Unless she just thinks that everyone is going to be shocked that she's not Luke's kid.
I want to believe that Daisy said that, precisely because Rey is not Luke's daughter. Because otherwise, it would not cause such a surprise that she hopes ... I say this because the great mass, expect Luke to be the father ... here in Brazil is to be depressing, to see so many people with this belief (but we have a few exceptions ).
Given the fact that everyone and their mother thinks she's Luke's kid (and I'm sure Daisy knows this as well), means she's NOT Luke's kid if it's supposed to come as any type of surprise.
But yes, TFA absolutely did eliminate both Luke and Leia in more ways than one. Maz's speech about belonging, the ungodly UST between her and Kylo, and let's not forget Bloodlines putting the final nail in the coffin...
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Like I've said, I went through the OT obsessive phase during my childhood that a lot of people do, but once I hit about age 11-12, I got interested in other things and didn't really pay that much attention to it. So late February of this year was really the first time as an adult paying attention to Star Wars. Maybe that's why I didn't "see" that Rey "has" to be Luke's kid? I'm also in a pretty cynical mood at the moment about people being able to pay basic attention to details because I'm trying to sell something on eBay marked clearly as LOCAL PICKUP ONLY and instead people who aren't in my area keep trying to buy it and arguing with me that I should mail it to them. Or the guy who keeps messaging me about how he thinks that it woudn't be a big deal if I let him come to my house at 11 PM on a Friday night when he'll be driving through my community to pick up the item (tl;dr people are dumb).
@Magnolia_3.0 - what part of Brazil? Eu amo seu país :)!
@Magnolia_3.0 - what part of Brazil? Eu amo seu país :)!
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@snufkinsnufkin wrote:Like I've said, I went through the OT obsessive phase during my childhood that a lot of people do, but once I hit about age 11-12, I got interested in other things and didn't really pay that much attention to it. So late February of this year was really the first time as an adult paying attention to Star Wars. Maybe that's why I didn't "see" that Rey "has" to be Luke's kid? I'm also in a pretty cynical mood at the moment about people being able to pay basic attention to details because I'm trying to sell something on eBay marked clearly as LOCAL PICKUP ONLY and instead people who aren't in my area keep trying to buy it and arguing with me that I should mail it to them. Or the guy who keeps messaging me about how he thinks that it woudn't be a big deal if I let him come to my house at 11 PM on a Friday night when he'll be driving through my community to pick up the item (tl;dr people are dumb).
@Magnolia_3.0 - what part of Brazil? Eu amo seu país !
Oh yes strange man who contacted me on the Internet, please come to my personal residence at 11pm on a Friday... That's not weird at all... *Roll eyes*
You're right about giving people too much credit when it comes to being able to read through detail. No wonder the GA thinks she's Luke's kid!!!
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Unfortunately some people only see what they want to see so they see Luke as Rey's Father and until it is explicitly stated that he is/isn't then they will carry on believing it I guess.
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Luke could make an announcement not only that he's celibate but also a virgin while Rey and Kylo are in the middle of a torrid sex scene and certain members of the audience will STILL think he's her father. There's no saving them...
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IoJovi wrote:@snufkinsnufkin wrote:Like I've said, I went through the OT obsessive phase during my childhood that a lot of people do, but once I hit about age 11-12, I got interested in other things and didn't really pay that much attention to it. So late February of this year was really the first time as an adult paying attention to Star Wars. Maybe that's why I didn't "see" that Rey "has" to be Luke's kid? I'm also in a pretty cynical mood at the moment about people being able to pay basic attention to details because I'm trying to sell something on eBay marked clearly as LOCAL PICKUP ONLY and instead people who aren't in my area keep trying to buy it and arguing with me that I should mail it to them. Or the guy who keeps messaging me about how he thinks that it woudn't be a big deal if I let him come to my house at 11 PM on a Friday night when he'll be driving through my community to pick up the item (tl;dr people are dumb).
@Magnolia_3.0 - what part of Brazil? Eu amo seu país :)!
Oh yes strange man who contacted me on the Internet, please come to my personal residence at 11pm on a Friday... That's not weird at all... *Roll eyes*
You're right about giving people too much credit when it comes to being able to read through detail. No wonder the GA thinks she's Luke's kid!!!
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Yeah not weird at all :P. I'm just like "what part of the instructions in ALL CAPS IN BOLD are these people not reading?!"
And I lol'd at @Gemini's comment about about how so many people are fanatical about their love for the OT and how it's such a core part of their childhood. But said obsessiveness doesn't include just some basics of remembering the plotline and details.
Maybe if some people are still shocked at the end about the Skywalker cousins or Solo siblings getting together (you know there'd be at least one MoviePilot article with a headline about "Shocking Twist"), just tell them it's like Downton Abbey where it's okay for blood relatives to marry.
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@IoJoviIoJovi wrote:Luke could make an announcement not only that he's celibate but also a virgin while Rey and Kylo are in the middle of a torrid sex scene and certain members of the audience will STILL think he's her father. There's no saving them...
That would be the MoviePilot article about the shocking twist ("Luke interrupts his daughter and nephew's kinky tryst in Episode VIII!")
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@snufkinsnufkin wrote:Like I've said, I went through the OT obsessive phase during my childhood that a lot of people do, but once I hit about age 11-12, I got interested in other things and didn't really pay that much attention to it. So late February of this year was really the first time as an adult paying attention to Star Wars. Maybe that's why I didn't "see" that Rey "has" to be Luke's kid? I'm also in a pretty cynical mood at the moment about people being able to pay basic attention to details because I'm trying to sell something on eBay marked clearly as LOCAL PICKUP ONLY and instead people who aren't in my area keep trying to buy it and arguing with me that I should mail it to them. Or the guy who keeps messaging me about how he thinks that it woudn't be a big deal if I let him come to my house at 11 PM on a Friday night when he'll be driving through my community to pick up the item (tl;dr people are dumb).
@Magnolia_3.0 - what part of Brazil? Eu amo seu país !
I'm from the state of Minas Gerais, my city is so small that you've never heard of it! Here our main sights are all historical and we do not have beach Have you ever come to Brazil?
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@IoJoviIoJovi wrote:Luke could make an announcement not only that he's celibate but also a virgin while Rey and Kylo are in the middle of a torrid sex scene and certain members of the audience will STILL think he's her father. There's no saving them...
Oh no I now have a mental image of Luke coughing to get their attention and looking all embarrassed before declaring that he's never done what they're doing and never will.
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@Magnolia_3.0Magnolia_3.0 wrote:@snufkinsnufkin wrote:Like I've said, I went through the OT obsessive phase during my childhood that a lot of people do, but once I hit about age 11-12, I got interested in other things and didn't really pay that much attention to it. So late February of this year was really the first time as an adult paying attention to Star Wars. Maybe that's why I didn't "see" that Rey "has" to be Luke's kid? I'm also in a pretty cynical mood at the moment about people being able to pay basic attention to details because I'm trying to sell something on eBay marked clearly as LOCAL PICKUP ONLY and instead people who aren't in my area keep trying to buy it and arguing with me that I should mail it to them. Or the guy who keeps messaging me about how he thinks that it woudn't be a big deal if I let him come to my house at 11 PM on a Friday night when he'll be driving through my community to pick up the item (tl;dr people are dumb).
@Magnolia_3.0 - what part of Brazil? Eu amo seu país !
I'm from the state of Minas Gerais, my city is so small that you've never heard of it! Here our main sights are all historical and we do not have beach Have you ever come to Brazil?
I was there for a month almost 10 years ago. Unfortunately Minas Girais is one of the few states I didn't get to visit when I was there. But someday I am going back and it's on my list of places to visit.
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@Rogue ReyRogue Rey wrote:@IoJoviIoJovi wrote:Luke could make an announcement not only that he's celibate but also a virgin while Rey and Kylo are in the middle of a torrid sex scene and certain members of the audience will STILL think he's her father. There's no saving them...
Oh no I now have a mental image of Luke coughing to get their attention and looking all embarrassed before declaring that he's never done what they're doing and never will.
Hahaha! They could have some trashy and super dramatic coitus interruptus scene where Luke discovers them in the throws of passion and Ben yells at him about how they don't care if it's wrong and the galaxy doesn't understand, man! It'd be like a bad 1980s miniseries - Judith Krantz's Star Wars. God, I'd actually pay the stupid $20 U.S. to see that in 3-D and IMAX.
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@snufkinsnufkin wrote:@Rogue ReyRogue Rey wrote:@IoJoviIoJovi wrote:Luke could make an announcement not only that he's celibate but also a virgin while Rey and Kylo are in the middle of a torrid sex scene and certain members of the audience will STILL think he's her father. There's no saving them...
Oh no I now have a mental image of Luke coughing to get their attention and looking all embarrassed before declaring that he's never done what they're doing and never will.
Hahaha! They could have some trashy and super dramatic coitus interruptus scene where Luke discovers them in the throws of passion and Ben yells at him about how they don't care if it's wrong and the galaxy doesn't understand, man! It'd be like a bad 1980s miniseries - Judith Krantz's Star Wars. God, I'd actually pay the stupid $20 U.S. to see that in 3-D and IMAX.
And then Luke blows up the hut where they're boning.
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