ARCHIVE: Rey's Lineage Discussion II - 2

Rogue Rey wrote:

IoJovi wrote:Luke could make an announcement not only that he's celibate but also a virgin while Rey and Kylo are in the middle of a torrid sex scene and certain members of the audience will STILL think he's her father.  There's no saving them...

@IoJovi

Oh no I now have a mental image of Luke coughing to get their attention and looking all embarrassed before declaring that he's never done what they're doing and never will.

@Rogue Rey

We're not even going to get that. "Thanks to a bunch of hints, many fans are predicting that Rey will be revealed to be Luke Skywalker's daughter in Star Wars Episode 8. But Mark Hamill's comments might have just debunked that theory. Specifically, the fact that he claims that Luke's "sexuality is never directly addressed in the film". Would confirming Rey is Luke's daughter pass as addressing his sexuality?"

http://moviepilot.com/posts/3745309

@ISeeAnIsland if the Hut Explosion actually happens and it's because of something like Force Sex, I personally will feel like whatever I paid for my movie ticket was worth it.

ISeeAnIsland wrote:

Darth_Awakened wrote:I'am having a bit of "oh no" moment.
Because of the last sentence:  'But with answers come more questions, and there's definitely going to be enough to keep people going for another two years!'

I'am terrified of two more years discussing the issue that is Rey's parentage.



Hopefully she is trolling.

@Darth_Awakened

Haha, yes, I noticed that two. To me, that hints at three (not mutually exclusive) possibilities:

* She's a descendent of a family where we don't know who her direct parent(s) would be. E.g, We find out that she's a Kenobi or a Palpatine, but don't get many details on her parents.
* We find out who she is, but don't get many details on how she ended up on Jakku the way that she did.
* We find out about one parent...but there's a hint or upcoming reveal (in IX) about who her other parent is. If this is the case, I really really really hope that we find out who her father is so that we can finally eliminate Reywalker.

@ISeeAnIsland
I hate being cynical,lol but I think Disney would want Rey's backstory to be interesting because it would further open the doors for making more anthology movies or even maybe a new prequal trilogy(?)before they start working on the next trilogy which will be set after the sequal one(I don't think there's any doubt they'll keep making more movies) and who wouldn't want to go see a movie about Rey's parents?It would be like the equvalent of watching how Anakin became Vader since Rey's such a fan favourite and the topic about her parentage is very popualr.I could be wrong but I'm just also looking at it from a business POV.

@CienaRee - not cynical at all, these characters are product lines for merchandise and future books/comics/games/cartoons/spin off movies. Her family aren't going to be nerf herders (or even not terribly popular/beloved legacy characters) because there's not going to be interest in learning more about her family's backstory.

TBH - having read the Time Out article, it sounds like she thinks people will be shocked because it becomes clear that she's not Luke's child. My guess is that at least Luke will talk about Ben's time with him and how he never had a family or kids, so Ben was like his son. And that'll really make clear the tragedy of what happened and why he feels responsible.

http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/feature/a816199/star-wars-rey-parents/

Looks like someone's been stalking this site!!! lol

Just glad it's not discussing a certain something. I'm regretting being so public with a certain theory. Wish I kept it low key.

Almost a year has passed since the release of TFA and I've yet to hear any satisfactory explanation of how Luke could be Rey's father without completely sithing over his character.

I admit I haven't engaged much on the subject of Rey's parentage for quite a while, but many Reywalkers seemed to be o.k with the idea of Luke unwittingly knocking up some random woman in a cantina the last time I checked. This appeared to be the favoured option because it absolves him of any responsibility for leaving Rey to rot on Jakku with creeper Unkar Plutt from the age of 5 or 6. I guess it would be possible to have that be the story of Rey's parentage. It just wouldn't be a very good one.

Anyway, I don't even know why I'm musing on the subject again because it only gets my gander up! Nothing would turn me off to Star Wars faster than Rey being revealed as Luke's daughter. Not because Reylo wouldn't happen but because there's nothing story-wise in TFA or any of the books, comics etc that point to that being likely. Lucas struck lucky with the Vader father reveal because it wasn't a stretch to make it fit. Given the things we've learned about the Skywalker/Solo family, having Rey be a missing part of it would be a cheat when no one has even hinted at a missing daughter/niece/sister/cousin.

Does anyone on here watch Star Wars Rebels?  

Cos it seems that the next ep to broadcast (in the US I'm guessing) has got some people who've already seen it on preview (media etc) to increase their beliefs of a certain Rey relation theory up to over 90%!!!!

Rogue Rey wrote:Does anyone on here watch Star Wars Rebels?  

Cos it seems that the next ep to broadcast (in the US I'm guessing) has got some people who've already seen it on preview (media etc) to increase their beliefs of a certain Rey relation theory up to over 90%!!!!

@Rogue Rey

@Mrs Ben Solo I've not seen a single plausible explanation either for Luke being a Jedi for years, then randomly deciding to get some unknown mysterious woman pregnant before toddling off back to being a Jedi and possibly co-parenting his nephew, while trying to bring back the Jedi Order.  It's such a disservice to the character of Luke it's one just to fit with the idea that because the saga films are all about the Skywalker's it means Rey MUST be one.  Oh and completely overlooking the fact that it's still about the Skywalker's - it's just the bad guy is the Skywalker.

@Mrs Ben Solo I've not seen a single plausible explanation either for Luke being a Jedi for years, then randomly deciding to get some unknown mysterious woman pregnant before toddling off back to being a Jedi and possibly co-parenting his nephew, while trying to bring back the Jedi Order.  It's such a disservice to the character of Luke it's one just to fit with the idea that because the saga films are all about the Skywalker's it means Rey MUST be one.  Oh and completely overlooking the fact that it's still about the Skywalker's - it's just the bad guy is the Skywalker.

sorry about the multiple posts my internet just went crazy!!!

Rogue Rey wrote:Does anyone on here watch Star Wars Rebels?  

Cos it seems that the next ep to broadcast (in the US I'm guessing) has got some people who've already seen it on preview (media etc) to increase their beliefs of a certain Rey relation theory up to over 90%!!!!

@Rogue Rey

Is this the episode that contains some reference to Satine? I don't watch the show and don't know any more about this, I just saw Pablo tweeting about it.

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:

Rogue Rey wrote:Does anyone on here watch Star Wars Rebels?  

Cos it seems that the next ep to broadcast (in the US I'm guessing) has got some people who've already seen it on preview (media etc) to increase their beliefs of a certain Rey relation theory up to over 90%!!!!

@Rogue Rey

Is this the episode that contains some reference to Satine? I don't watch the show and don't know any more about this, I just saw Pablo tweeting about it.

@Mrs Ben Solo

In all honesty I don't know I just saw some of the people from Collider.com referencing it but not saying why but that they'll say more in their review of the ep at the end of the week.  It peeked my interest.

And saying people need to read this article in a different tweet:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-ostrower/rey-is-obi-wan-kenobis-granddaughter_b_8911656.html

Of course they could just be playing with us all!!!!

Rogue Rey wrote:

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:

Rogue Rey wrote:Does anyone on here watch Star Wars Rebels?  

Cos it seems that the next ep to broadcast (in the US I'm guessing) has got some people who've already seen it on preview (media etc) to increase their beliefs of a certain Rey relation theory up to over 90%!!!!

@Rogue Rey

Is this the episode that contains some reference to Satine? I don't watch the show and don't know any more about this, I just saw Pablo tweeting about it.

@Mrs Ben Solo

In all honesty I don't know I just saw some of the people from Collider.com referencing it but not saying why but that they'll say more in their review of the ep at the end of the week.  It peeked my interest.

And saying people need to read this article in a different tweet:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-ostrower/rey-is-obi-wan-kenobis-granddaughter_b_8911656.html

Of course they could just be playing with us all!!!!

@Rogue Rey

I just read @panki post in the Star Wars Rebels thread and it seems that the next episode will include references to Obi-Wan Kenobi and Satine... Interesting!

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:

Rogue Rey wrote:Does anyone on here watch Star Wars Rebels?  

Cos it seems that the next ep to broadcast (in the US I'm guessing) has got some people who've already seen it on preview (media etc) to increase their beliefs of a certain Rey relation theory up to over 90%!!!!

@Rogue Rey

Is this the episode that contains some reference to Satine? I don't watch the show and don't know any more about this, I just saw Pablo tweeting about it.

@Mrs Ben Solo

Spoiler:

Thanks for the info @panki that makes sense of what Pablo tweeted earlier. He also seemed to imply in another tweet that Obi-Wan's connection to Rey will be explored in some capacity...

panki wrote:

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:

Rogue Rey wrote:Does anyone on here watch Star Wars Rebels?  

Cos it seems that the next ep to broadcast (in the US I'm guessing) has got some people who've already seen it on preview (media etc) to increase their beliefs of a certain Rey relation theory up to over 90%!!!!

@Rogue Rey

Is this the episode that contains some reference to Satine? I don't watch the show and don't know any more about this, I just saw Pablo tweeting about it.

@Mrs Ben Solo

Spoiler:

@panki

It's just interesting how they are keeping obi and satine constant in the story

It could be a tie up

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:Thanks for the info @panki that makes sense of what Pablo tweeted earlier. He also seemed to imply in another tweet that Obi-Wan's connection to Rey will be explored in some capacity...

@Mrs Ben Solo

Really where's that?

You know she may not even be related. It's just a connection somehow lol

Gemini wrote:

panki wrote:

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:

Rogue Rey wrote:Does anyone on here watch Star Wars Rebels?  

Cos it seems that the next ep to broadcast (in the US I'm guessing) has got some people who've already seen it on preview (media etc) to increase their beliefs of a certain Rey relation theory up to over 90%!!!!

@Rogue Rey

Is this the episode that contains some reference to Satine? I don't watch the show and don't know any more about this, I just saw Pablo tweeting about it.

@Mrs Ben Solo

Spoiler:

@panki

It's just interesting how they are keeping obi and satine constant in the story

It could be a tie up

@Gemini

They might be closing the Maul arc with a final confrontation with Obi-wan, since that was something long overdue....I don't think this episode means anything more than that.

As for Rey being a Kenobi, I feel the only way it is possible without ruining Obi-wan's character (why in the world would he abandon his child and care for Luke? That is the same reason for which we make fun of Reywalkers.) is to make her his clone (which has been done before in the EU with another jedi so it is not out of the realm of possibility)

Is maul gonna face Vader you think

God damn he's gonna hate Vader because he took away the one thing he wanted the most..killing obi wan

I don't think obibwan knew he had a kid. If it's korkie. He had no idea @Panki

There's lots pointing to something still remaining secret and yet to be exposed with satine and onibwan, there was that chain of emails Pablo had with filoni talking about something scandalous with his and satines backnstory. Could be a lovechild unknown to him.

panki wrote:

Gemini wrote:

panki wrote:

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:

Rogue Rey wrote:Does anyone on here watch Star Wars Rebels?  

Cos it seems that the next ep to broadcast (in the US I'm guessing) has got some people who've already seen it on preview (media etc) to increase their beliefs of a certain Rey relation theory up to over 90%!!!!

@Rogue Rey

Is this the episode that contains some reference to Satine? I don't watch the show and don't know any more about this, I just saw Pablo tweeting about it.

@Mrs Ben Solo

Spoiler:

@panki

It's just interesting how they are keeping obi and satine constant in the story

It could be a tie up

@Gemini

They might be closing the Maul arc with a final confrontation with Obi-wan, since that was something long overdue....I don't think this episode means anything more than that.

As for Rey being a Kenobi, I feel the only way it is possible without ruining Obi-wan's character (why in the world would he abandon his child and care for Luke?) is to make her his clone (which has been done before in the EU with another jedi so it is not out of the realm of possibility)

@panki

The BIB is exactly how I feel about Rey being Luke's child - why would he abandon his child but go on to guide/nurture and effectively parent other kids including his own nephew (wouldn't be being around your sisters kid all the time make you feel worse about abandoning your own??)

Gemini wrote:

Mrs Ben Solo wrote:Thanks for the info @panki that makes sense of what Pablo tweeted earlier. He also seemed to imply in another tweet that Obi-Wan's connection to Rey will be explored in some capacity...

@Mrs Ben Solo

Really where's that?

You know she may not even be related. It's just a connection somehow lol

@Gemini

I don't know how to take a screenshot on my iPad but there's a short string of tweets ending in this reply https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/806270591556718592

As said above, Korkie @Rogue Rey

In answer, he wouldn't abandon his child.

However in the clone wars a doppelgänger of obi wan and satine was introduced called Korkie. He is "nephew" to satine and her sister. But no parents. Lol. Obi wan never meets him. If that was his kid, it means satine hid him from obi wan and he was never aware of him.

Gemini wrote:I don't think obibwan knew he had a kid. If it's korkie. He had no idea @Panki

@Gemini ... I am open to that possibility but it doesn't add up if we calculate the age of the characters... for instance Obi-wan was around 35-36 at the end of the clone wars....and Korkie was in the Royal Academy on Mandalore at least one year (sorry, made a correction.....not 3 years) before the TCW ended...which means he would easily be in his early 20s at the time of order 66.... so Obi-wan would have to be 15-16 years old (or if we're lucky 18-19) when he had Korkie....it doesn't add up somehow....or even if it does, I don't think teen fatherhood is a very nice message for SW.