ARCHIVE: Rey's Lineage Discussion - 1

We all have our theories regarding who Rey might be related to among the legacy SW characters....please mention which character you feel Rey could be related to and why you feel she could be related to that person.

I still feel like she could be Palpatine's, that would draw a beautiful symmetry with Kylo Ren. Maybe her father could be a KoR related to Sheev? That would explain why Dubrovnik is probably Naboo...

I've gone for Kenobi, although in the back of my mind I'm wondering if it's a little *too* obvious. I just adored the relationship between Obi-Wan and Anakin (oh god, I'm tearing up at the thought of Obi-Wan's heartbreak), and love the idea of a symmetry with PT, the two families coming together again in Reylo. Part of me would also LOVE the idea of her being descended from the dark side though, if only because it would make Kylo even more infatuated

@Panki, I really like your Snoke lineage theory for Rey.
I think she is most likely a Kenobi, but I really want her to also have a dark origin. I just love the idea of preserving the symmetry between Rey and Kylo Ren, the yin and yang.

Can I say that while I think it's more likely she will be of Kenobi descent, I would absolutely give up an ovary for her to be of Palpatine lineage?

As far as bad, bad irredeemable villains go, he's always been one of my favorites.

Oh I agree. I love Sheev for the same reason. He finds a real joy and zest in being evil. It's awesome, haha. Check him out with his bizarre little hand wave here that he does to Yoda. What a troll, lol. XD



I wouldn't mind if Palpatine were Rey's grandaddy. It would credential her with the old school SW snobs who want everything to be grounded in the PT. But whatever.

Really, I just want Rey to have some kind of dark origin. I think something like that would help even the playing field with her and Kylo, keeping the sense of parallel/symmetry between them. And if she has to go through some sort of crisis of identity and has to struggle with coming to terms with her own darkness, she will understand herself AND Kylo Ren better.

BastilaBey wrote:I've gone for Kenobi, although in the back of my mind I'm wondering if it's a little *too* obvious

I have this same concern.
I wouldn't mind if she had a bit of dark side heritage. Sheev would be great. Resistance people could ostacize her for that and only Ren could understand her feelings
Rey Skywalker would simply be boring. Not to mention that I've always seen Luke as a Jedi monk... and I think that Mark's tweet somehow confirmed that: "Luke's sexuality is never directly addressed in the films. Luke is whatever the audience wants him to be, so you can decide for yourself".

I really like the idea of Rey having Dark heritage, especially Palpatine - it would work so well in contrast to Kylo especially given what Lor San Tekka said about Kylo/Ben being from the Light.

Also because there have been past comments saying that Daisy looks like both Natalie Portman and Kiera Knightley (one of the Padme doubles) - with people just assuming that it was because Rey is a Skywalker, perhaps that is just how the women of Naboo look.

I would like for Obi-wan to have a familial connection with the new gen tho too.

So the half dark/half light parentage would be a cool dynamic - a bit like an internal yin and yang too

My favorite theories are Rey Random (because why does everyone have to be related to Someone Important to be a hero) or Rey Darkside (because she has such intriguing rage, and it would be very poetic to have that balance to Ben's story).

What about Qui Gon? What would he bring to the story?

This is a good question. Honestly Qui Gon is my favorite of the Jedi (not my favorite Jedi character - does that make sense?) I guess I love how Qui Gon Jedi-ed, lol. He was open minded, he was not afraid to stand up to the council, he was not wrapped up in things being black and white, and he wasn't deterred or swayed by popular opinion. He had conviction and wisdom. He was too cool for the council!

If he is Rey's grandfather or whatever it would be nice foreshadowing of her having those same qualities. I think Rey Jinn would be awesome (aside from that fact that it sounds like RAGING lol). I want Rey to march to the beat of her own drum like Qui Gon did. It would be very cool indeed.

And this would bode well for Reylo. Think about it, who stood for Anakin Skywalker when no one else did? Qui Gon.
If Rey is his descendent, it would be a nice full circle moment when she stands up for Anakin's grandson when no one else with the Force does.

I ll go with the Rey random for a start (but due to the some leaks from EPVIII I have a theory on who the random parent might be) - someone please tell me If I am free to discuss over here the spoilers for EPVIII or not?

Yes, you are free to discuss spoilers here. n_n

Thanks

My initial thought on Rey s parentage was Rey random probable left by parents who were in some kind of trouble and had to leave as soon as they can.
(I never thought for a second that she is Rey Skylwalker because it was so out of character for Luke to leave his own child with the Jabba the Hutt type of guy.)
The other idea came after the leaks from Dubrovnik concerning Luke in the casino looking for somebody - perhaps he was looking for a gambler (because these are the sort of people we meet in casinos) who, before some time was so deep in the trouble with money that he sold his own child. A new character perhaps, Benicio del Toro maybe?

It is just speculation nothing more..

I think it's very plausible. The parallels are all there. I will post every Kenobi detail I'll find.

Hmm. This is an interesting theory about BDT or a gambling parent who had to leave Rey in a hurry to settle debts. That would be heartbreaking, but would explain the parent leaving poor Rey with an unsavory character such as Unkar Plutt.

The only thing that I've ruled out is a Rey Random lineage at this point because they said her parentage would be "deeply satisfying". That to me means legacy parentage. Either light or dark side, but still legacy. If BDT is her dad, then to me he must be the son of someone relevant in the OT or PT.

Is it possible for her to be a Kenobi with her parents fallen on the dark side? Because all the movie screams Kenobi for me.

I would be OK with this too.
Honestly, the only thing that would make me flip over tables as far as her parentage is Rey Skywalker. I'd just as soon as have her be a Hutt who can shapeshift because given how things played out in TFA, even that would make more narrative sense than a Rey Skywalker to me. *eye roll*

I have a problem with legacy parentage due to the narrative.
Star Wars despite its big twists has pretty much simple and straightforward narrative (I am hoping I am using right terms - I am not a native english speaker).

Legacy parentage  requires expositions and further explanations. It is another reason why I am sure Luke Skylwalker is out of the content to be Rey s father.
It just moves the focus from Rey.
Same is for Kenobi (yeah I must admit it would be cool - but still too complicated), Palpatine, etc..

I get what you're saying, and I agree to some extent. The thing I hate the most is over-exposition through dialogue. It makes everything super clunky. For me TFA came to a screeching halt that was painfully noticeable whenever they resorted to this kind of mechanism. For example in the moment that Maz Kanata says to Rey "That lightsaber belonged to Luke Skywalker and bla bla bla" and the moment that Leia says to Han "It was Snoke! He seduced our son to the dark side! Bla bla bla!"

Terrible, terrible storytelling. I want them to avoid doing that in the upcoming episode, and I get that a legacy lineage for Rey would require all sorts of exposition. But that quote from Trevorrow: deeply satisfying for all. That's a pretty big promise. Hardcore SW fans will not be satisfied by a random parentage.

Anyway, your English is very good, no worries! I am also not a native speaker, a lot of us aren't. Reylo is everywhere lalala.

I love all of Rey parentage secularism except Rey Skywalker this would be beyond awful and if that's where they're going they might as well revealed it in TFA.I've seen the excuse that Fey's parentage isn't suppose to be a twist and they didn't reveal who she is because of Kylo being a Skywalker.But the thing is that by prolonging it for so long you're building up the expectation that there would be some kind of a twist.And really why even hide the fact that she's s Skywalker at all?Just open TFA with Rey Skywalker searching for her father or something.There would be no consulted theories that potentially make Luke look awful,no explanations that would take way too long to explain and take away from the story.The thing is the writers know people would immediately jump to the conclusion she's a Skywalker because she's the main character and because of all the OT callbacks some have taken as proof.
With all that in mind I've come to the conclusion that the only way Rey's parentage can be truly satisfying is if she's the daughter of non legacy characters who were involved in the same conflict the OT3 were(Thane Kyrell and Ciena Ree or similar type of characters) or she's the daughter/granddaughter of Snoke.I would probably prefer the latter because it would give Rey an identity crisis and make her wonder who she truly is and where she truly belongs to.It might not be as satisfying go the rest of the audience what with her being related to the Big Bad but since Snoke is a new character it wouldn't take too much time to explain the relation between them and Rey choosing the Light when she originally came from the Dark would be a great message for little children that who your bloodline is doesn't ultimately define you and Rey wouldn't need to live up to anyone like it would be the case with a legacy character.
I pull still live if she were Kenobi but it poses some of the sane problems Rey Skywalker does.I think that because Rey had waited so lint for her family to come back for her she has to end up being dissapointed by what she finds about them.I think it would be the only way her character truly progresses and she stops thinking in black and white terms.
I also find it insurers ting that they have entice Snoke being Darth Plaguies insisting he's a new character.I mean why not let fans speculate unless they don't want them to end up being disappointed with something they believe is a fact like it's the case with Rey Skywalker.

I'm also not sure we should read too much if the "deeply satisfying" quote.The writers' idea of deeply satisfying might be completely different than what hardcore SW fans have in mind.I think Reylo is proving that to be the case with many people.

I think it will be a great twist if she's related to Palpatine. If not, maybe another Dark side FS family.

BlackIsTheColor wrote:

BastilaBey wrote:I've gone for Kenobi, although in the back of my mind I'm wondering if it's a little *too* obvious

I have this same concern.
I wouldn't mind if she had a bit of dark side heritage. Sheev would be great. Resistance people could ostacize her for that and only Ren could understand her feelings
Rey Skywalker would simply be boring. Not to mention that I've always seen Luke as a Jedi monk... and I think that Mark's tweet somehow confirmed that: "Luke's sexuality is never directly addressed in the films. Luke is whatever the audience wants him to be, so you can decide for yourself".

Like this. It would add to the things which they already have in common.

My vote goes to Rey's parents being unknown at this point. I still think that could be a "deeply satisfying" option depending on their stories. I'm always sceptical anyway when satisfaction is promised, as it invariably is in cases like these. You will never be able to please everyone, especially is such a broad fan base as Star Wars. For starters, many fans of the EU stuff are already ticked off. They want Luke and Mara Jade and nothing less will do!

In my heart, because I love Obi-Wan Kenobi so much, I'd love Rey to be related to him. I'm drawn similarly to the granddaughter of Palpatine and Snoke theories because of the story potential and parallels with Kylo's heritage. But they all have similar problems as Rey Skywalker for me, i.e exposition and off-screen love stories etc. I guess there's slightly less of a problem if she has a legacy character grandparent than all the baggage that comes with Luke being her father, but even so, there will be a certain amount of exposition needed.

Whatever the truth of her parentage, it needs to fit in the context of what we've already seen in TFA. It also shouldn't be Luke acting as narrator, telling Rey all about her long lost family. People seem to be genuinely expecting this from the upcoming Ireland filming. Please, no campfire scenes with flames that dissolve into flashbacks!

I'm torn There're many possibilities here, Kenobi, Palpatine, Qui Gon, others...Whoever Rey really is, it was bound to be a shock but as for right now, it's hard to said, Rey being a Skywalker is just down right silly and lazy

The only way to make her someone different from Rey Skywalker is thinking with the ring theory. Based on this kind of narrative, it's more likely for Finn to be a Skywalker lol so I'll go with Rey Kenobi 100%, I hope they will give him justice, because he was the "Mary Poppins" of that f*****g family. For me it'll be satisfying and poetic