Star Wars Episodes VIII and IX - What should NEVER, EVER happen

@Darth_Awakened She appeared only in Hardhome:

She was great in GoT, I'd like to see her as a Knight of Ren - but not Kylo's girlfriend.

There could be a terrific fight scene between this lady and Rey.

Darth Dingbat wrote:

FrolickingFizzgig wrote:

vaderito wrote:@Darth Dingbat I had a major freakout over that female KoR fake news. I remember posting "Keep your paws off Kylo" in 72 size letters above her picture from GoT.   My freakouts are the most epic.

@vaderito
I remember that LOL. First "fandom" freakout I ever witnessed in these parts. xD

@FrolickingFizzgig

I remember it well, too! Well, you know... if one is going to have freakouts, one might as well have epic ones.

@Darth_Awakened, I don't know who she plays in GOT but her name was Birgitte Hjort Sorensen.

@Darth Dingbat @vaderito

tnx both of you. I do remember now. A danish actress from Hardhome episode

motherofpearl1 wrote:She was great in GoT, I'd like to see her as a Knight of Ren - but not Kylo's girlfriend.

There could be a terrific fight scene between this lady and Rey.

@motherofpearl1

It could be terrific, yes! That rumour was made up by some fan, though - it was only "reported" in one random Moviepilot article, written by some guy nobody had ever heard about. But for some reason many people on Reddit, Tumblr, etc. fell for it at first.

And of course they are firmly convinced that if some of the KoR are female it means Kylo's just got to be having his way with them.

I don't suppose they stop to consider that they are simply comrades in arms, like Phasma; love or hate the First Order, they treated their female members as equals to the males.

ISeeAnIsland wrote:Renporer.

@ISeeAnIsland

9/2/2016 ^^^

SheLitAFire wrote:

ISeeAnIsland wrote:Renporer.

@ISeeAnIsland

9/2/2016 ^^^

@SheLitAFire



Great. Find.

-> Kylo/Ben's death
I didn't get that attached to an amazingly well-written character to watch him die, and after TLJ, I feel that the whole trilogy's message is that not everything is black or white, there's hope, but he won't be back as an innocent child.

-> Finnrey
Nope nope nope, their friendship it too pure and necessary to both of them (and I REALLY want Stormpilot to be canon !)

-> Leia's death only mentioned in the opening credits
It sadly has to happen, but I want it to play a major part in Ben's redemption, as Han and Luke did.

-> Rey/Ben married
I love them, but I'd rather have them building a new "jedi" system together than marry and have a calm life, it would be out-of-character to me !

Asphodel wrote:-> Kylo/Ben's death
I didn't get that attached to an amazingly well-written character to watch him die, and after TLJ, I feel that the whole trilogy's message is that not everything is black or white, there's hope, but he won't be back as an innocent child.

-> Finnrey
Nope nope nope, their friendship it too pure and necessary to both of them (and I REALLY want Stormpilot to be canon !)

-> Leia's death only mentioned in the opening credits
It sadly has to happen, but I want it to play a major part in Ben's redemption, as Han and Luke did.

-> Rey/Ben married
I love them, but I'd rather have them building a new "jedi" system together than marry and have a calm life, it would be out-of-character to me !

@Asphodel

I agree with the first three. The entire SW saga would be moot, including Anakin, Han, and Luke's sacrifices, if Kylo is just eeeevil and dies. SW is full of messages of hope and love and forgiveness and redemption, it isn't nihilistic GoT where most of the characters die and there is little meaning or anything gained or learned from tragedy. Too many fans forget these are children's movies. They can be dark, but not the entire time.

Rey and Finn spent the entirely of TLJ apart, I'm not even sure if they spoke to each other. Plus now there's Rose who's into Finn. It would be awkward to retcon at this point.

I can see the prominent role Leia had to play in IX. I've been wondering if she and part of the Resistance could be in a separate place from our other main characters, so there could be some amount of contact without actually having to be on screen, though it would take some pretty clever filmmaking to pull off.

But I would like Rey and Ben to get married, though it doesn't necessarily have to be in the movie, maybe in a later book. It doesn't mean they will settle down, certainly not right away. They might even have the Falcon at that point to travel in. These two need each other, there's not much out of character for them to officially and formally be a couple.

Also I like your porg avatar.

Also another thing to add to the list of things that should never happen ever: Rey-Poe. It is not, has never been, and never will be a thing

@californiagirl

Ow yes, maybe they'd be able to keep Leia alive without us seeing her, that would be a good thing for the scenario I guess !

I'd love to see Reylo as a couple, I think it's the marriage part that bothers me, it seems quick to me since they've known each other for a week or so in the films. But I agree with it happening in a later book !

Oh my, yep, as much as I love Poe, I don't want to see them being anything other than friends. They've got such a good potential for a friendship based on their pilot skills !

(And yay, thanks for the avatar, found it on Pinterest !)

@Asphodel Many are suspecting there will be a time jump to IX, though I don't think it will be the multiyear jump others outside this fandom expect. It would make the most sense at this point. TLJ was the only SW saga movie without one. Plus the idea that it could happen even later in other media. I'm a little sad about Stormpilot, which does not look like it will happen now. I also found my avatar on Pinterest!

@californiagirl

Maybe a few months time-jump will be enough, if there's one ? I'm pretty confident about Stormpilot, Finn didn't look very receptive to Rose's kiss and I believe in Oscar Isaac's force of persuasion
Yay, Pinterest for the win !

californiagirl wrote:@Asphodel Many are suspecting there will be a time jump to IX, though I don't think it will be the multiyear jump others outside this fandom expect. It would make the most sense at this point. TLJ was the only SW saga movie without one. Plus the idea that it could happen even later in other media. I'm a little sad about Stormpilot, which does not look like it will happen now. I also found my avatar on Pinterest!

@californiagirl

  maybe at the moment of star wars theme
   there will be : it's been a while after the disappearance of the legendary Jedi Luke Skywalker, with the death of supreme leader Snoke, Kylo Ren is determined to put an end to all the battles, the Resistance meets to face this last but important battle that decide the fate and the future of the galaxy

IoJovi wrote:

SheLitAFire wrote:

ISeeAnIsland wrote:Renporer.

@ISeeAnIsland

9/2/2016 ^^^

@SheLitAFire



Great. Find.

@IoJovi

Oh yeah. Um, sorry about that.

I'm almost afraid to answer this for IX...we'll end up with a big time jump and Rey training an army of BroomBois.

ISeeAnIsland wrote:

IoJovi wrote:

SheLitAFire wrote:

ISeeAnIsland wrote:Renporer.

@ISeeAnIsland

9/2/2016 ^^^

@SheLitAFire



Great. Find.

@IoJovi

Oh yeah. Um, sorry about that.

I'm almost afraid to answer this for IX...we'll end up with a big time jump and Rey training an army of BroomBois.

@ISeeAnIsland

The bolded is @Darth Rowan's dream scenario.

I kid, I kid!!!

SheLitAFire wrote:

ISeeAnIsland wrote:
I'm almost afraid to answer this for IX...we'll end up with a big time jump and Rey training an army of BroomBois.

@ISeeAnIsland

The bolded is @Darth Rowan's dream scenario.

@SheLitAFire



Confession time: I'm still holding out for Kylo blowing up BroomBoi's planet complete with all the horses as his final act of evil before turning to the light. A girl can dream.  

God *please* no more cute kids in SW. Unless they're Rey and Ben's kids (I could tolerate them I suppose).

Since VIII confirmed our interpretation of Rey and Kylo's romantic/sexual dynamic and set us up with so much left unsaid and unresolved going into IX (aka the perfect story setup), there's very little that could upset me at this point aside from unimaginably abysmal writing or literal retcon.

The only specific thing I would prefer not to see is Rey getting pregnant in the movie. Reylo baby in an epilogue? Heck yeah, but let's finish the story first please.

MyOnlyHope wrote:Since VIII confirmed our interpretation of Rey and Kylo's romantic/sexual dynamic and set us up with so much left unsaid and unresolved going into IX (aka the perfect story setup), there's very little that could upset me at this point aside from unimaginably abysmal writing or literal retcon.

The only specific thing I would prefer not to see is Rey getting pregnant in the movie. Reylo baby in an epilogue? Heck yeah, but let's finish the story first please.

@MyOnlyHope

Plus, a pregnant Rey pretty much guarantees Kylo's death in IX. I want my Ben Solo redeemed and alive, pls.

No babies please, unless its done a la The Hunger Games, several years after the end of the story. No big time jump either - a year at most. Please....no cute kids. The scene where those three appeared in the stables when Finn and Rose were escaping on Canto Bight was the only part of the movie which threatened to descend into syrup! And finally.....I want Ben redeemed but I don't want see him turning back into Ben Solo but resolving the two halves of his nature. Because Rey needs to love and accept Kylo as well as Ben.

I'm usually very open-minded and I'm trying to keep my expectations at a reasonable level, but there are a couple of things that I would hate to see in the next movie:
- Kylo/Ben 's death, even if it's for a final heroic sacrifice... he already had a miserable life, I don't think that he deserves to die.  
- half of the movie spent on the Resistance/FO plot. I know that it's an important part of the story, but I would like to see something different in that dynamic.
- pregnant Rey or a wedding, unless we find out at the very end of the movie, maybe in the last scene I would also be too scared for Ben's survival.
- Leia's death quickly mentioned in the opening credits. I would like to see her funeral and Ben's reaction.
- a big time jump
- broomboy again or other kids no please!

cherrylipstick wrote:I'm usually very open-minded and I'm trying to keep my expectations at a reasonable level, but there are a couple of things that I would hate to see in the next movie:
- Kylo/Ben 's death, even if it's for a final heroic sacrifice... he already had a miserable life, I don't think that he deserves to die.  
- half of the movie spent on the Resistance/FO plot. I know that it's an important part of the story, but I would like to see something different in that dynamic.
- pregnant Rey or a wedding, unless we find out at the very end of the movie, maybe in the last scene I would also be too scared for Ben's survival.
- Leia's death quickly mentioned in the opening credits. I would like to see her funeral and Ben's reaction.
- a big time jump
- broomboy again or other kids no please!

@cherrylipstick

Yes- all of this! I wouldn't mind the kids through if it fits the story... it would be heartwarming if Ben would be the one to free them or safe them somehow.

whooo great ideas here for what not to put in a SW movie! [err other than Renperor - Poor @ISeeAnIsland - I feel for you, tough to have that eh! but - I salute your imagination.. I didn't dream we'd get Renperor at all.. you did! That's an achievement! You just at that time didn't want it ]

Okay I'll have a go.
What should never ever happen:
-Kylo/Ben doesn't get redeemed. Nooooooooo.
-IX finishing with Ben and Rey separated for good with hearts broken in ANY way (this rules out death of Ben too).
-Anyone having their mind/body taken over by someone else. hate that. Just yuck.
-Anyone being revealed to be secretly related to either Luke, Han or Leia!
-Mention of Snoke's boudoir. Please. I beg you. No. Just. No.

Anything else I'm up for.

I do not want Rey alone
I do not want Chewie to die
I do not want the millennium Falcon destroyed
I do not want Kylo Ren without a hand or leg or blind
I do not want an ending where Rey trains the next generation of Jedi and one of her students asks her, "Did you know Kylo Ren?" and then we see Ben Solo on Tatooine and
I do not want to see a pathetic ending

For me it's:
- Don't leave Kylo unredeemed
- Don't kill Kylo under any circumstances
- Don't have Kylo lose his Force abilities (okay no it wouldn't ruin it for me completely but I still think it's a terrible message for this trilogy)
- Don't leave Finn's Stormtrooper history forever unresolved or explored as part of his character
- Don't let Poe take up too much screentime that should have been Finn's again
- Don't walk back any part of Kylo's backstory to make Luke look better or lessen Snoke's impact
- Do NOT reveal that the Force bond was severed when that door closed at the end of TLJ. I highly doubt J.J. would be foolish enough to not pull that plot over into IX but it could happen

Other than that, I'm good. I'm not even opposed to the "Kylo goes on exile and separates from Rey" ending if there's at least a hint that they'll be together again someday.