The Last Jedi Trailer(s):

MyOnlyHope wrote:The strongest and bravest thing Kylo could do is relinquish

Atenais wrote:So, Rey is saving the day... Again? I don't know if I like the idea of Kylo being showed off weak again. Lets see.

@Atenais
What? The ridiculous desire for power and Vader legacy darkness is what makes Kylo Ren weak. The strongest and bravest thing he could do is give help to Rey when she needs it.

@MyOnlyHope

It sure is but really want to see him demonstrating his raw powers for everyone to see, they made a big deal out of it. Rey again saving the day is kinda underwhelming, they should fight together as equals side-by-side. But that's just my opinion.

DarthRen wrote:

MyOnlyHope wrote:The strongest and bravest thing Kylo could do is relinquish

Atenais wrote:So, Rey is saving the day... Again? I don't know if I like the idea of Kylo being showed off weak again. Lets see.

@Atenais
What? The ridiculous desire for power and Vader legacy darkness is what makes Kylo Ren weak. The strongest and bravest thing he could do is give help to Rey when she needs it.

@MyOnlyHope

It sure is but really want to see him demonstrating his raw powers for everyone to see, they made a big deal out of it. Rey again saving the day is kinda underwhelming, they should fight together as equals side-by-side. But that's just my opinion.

@DarthRen
Well yeah, of course. They are equals in every way and will be represented as such. I just think it's ridiculous to say that presenting Rey as strong somehow makes Kylo weak, especially when they're clearly a tandem in this scene.

MyOnlyHope wrote:

DarthRen wrote:

MyOnlyHope wrote:The strongest and bravest thing Kylo could do is relinquish

Atenais wrote:So, Rey is saving the day... Again? I don't know if I like the idea of Kylo being showed off weak again. Lets see.

@Atenais
What? The ridiculous desire for power and Vader legacy darkness is what makes Kylo Ren weak. The strongest and bravest thing he could do is give help to Rey when she needs it.

@MyOnlyHope

It sure is but really want to see him demonstrating his raw powers for everyone to see, they made a big deal out of it. Rey again saving the day is kinda underwhelming, they should fight together as equals side-by-side. But that's just my opinion.

@DarthRen
Well yeah, of course. They are equals in every way and will be represented as such. I just think it's ridiculous to say that presenting Rey as strong somehow makes Kylo weak, especially when they're clearly a tandem in this scene.

@MyOnlyHope

I'm totally fine with Rey being strong, but tired of having debates with my relatives and other people explaining them how Kylo is stronger than they think.

Saracene wrote:I admit, I'll roll my eyes if we get more of, Rey can get herself out of any scrap and needs no help from no one. Doesn't have to be Kylo who saves her, just please can we have Rey in a truly hopeless situation she can't fix. And I don't mean someone helping her along once she gets the ball rolling, I mean like Luke at the end of ESB.

@Saracene

In depends in which situation they are. We saw Rey being torturedby Snoke, which is not a spoiler. What if Kylo saves her and Snoke tries to make him pay for that, and Rey stands then because what he is going to do to him? In this situation, they would actuallly save each other. At least, I hope because from my side, I am also a little  fed up of Rey shown as kicking everyone's a**. I mean, she is shown having the upper hand at least 3 times in the trailers (under the rain with the lightsaber, under the rain with her staff, also on supremacy) and not against just one strong FS but at least 2 if not 3 (Luke, possibly Kylo, and Snoke since we know she escapes). That also gives us possibly the reason of the handreaching. Doesn't seem to me like Kylo is really asking for a hand here. Looks more like he is waiting thay she gives him something (back). Since we know she uses his lightsaber at some point, why not?

reylo1992 wrote:

Saracene wrote:I admit, I'll roll my eyes if we get more of, Rey can get herself out of any scrap and needs no help from no one. Doesn't have to be Kylo who saves her, just please can we have Rey in a truly hopeless situation she can't fix. And I don't mean someone helping her along once she gets the ball rolling, I mean like Luke at the end of ESB.

@Saracene

In depends in which situation they are. We saw Rey being torturedby Snoke, which is not a spoiler. What if Kylo saves her and Snoke tries to make him pay for that, and Rey stands then because what he is going to do to him? In this situation, they would actuallly save each other. At least, I hope because from my side, I am also a little  fed up of Rey shown as kicking everyone's a**. I mean, she is shown having the upper hand at least 3 times in the trailers (under the rain with the lightsaber, under the rain with her staff, also on supremacy) and not against just one strong FS but at least 2 if not 3 (Luke, possibly Kylo, and Snoke since we know she escapes). That also gives us possibly the reason of the handreaching. Doesn't seem to me like Kylo is really asking for a hand here. Looks more like he is waiting thay she gives him something (back). Since we know she uses his lightsaber at some point, why not?

@reylo1992

If they exchange arms, it'd be like a marriage in the Force!

Rei of Sunshine wrote:

reylo1992 wrote:

Saracene wrote:I admit, I'll roll my eyes if we get more of, Rey can get herself out of any scrap and needs no help from no one. Doesn't have to be Kylo who saves her, just please can we have Rey in a truly hopeless situation she can't fix. And I don't mean someone helping her along once she gets the ball rolling, I mean like Luke at the end of ESB.

@Saracene

In depends in which situation they are. We saw Rey being torturedby Snoke, which is not a spoiler. What if Kylo saves her and Snoke tries to make him pay for that, and Rey stands then because what he is going to do to him? In this situation, they would actuallly save each other. At least, I hope because from my side, I am also a little  fed up of Rey shown as kicking everyone's a**. I mean, she is shown having the upper hand at least 3 times in the trailers (under the rain with the lightsaber, under the rain with her staff, also on supremacy) and not against just one strong FS but at least 2 if not 3 (Luke, possibly Kylo, and Snoke since we know she escapes). That also gives us possibly the reason of the handreaching. Doesn't seem to me like Kylo is really asking for a hand here. Looks more like he is waiting thay she gives him something (back). Since we know she uses his lightsaber at some point, why not?

@reylo1992

If they exchange arms, it'd be like a marriage in the Force!

@Rei of Sunshine

https://reyloisblessed.tumblr.com/post/168283254052

It's interesting to note thatshe is sweaty there. I think that happened just after Snoke "tortured" her and Kylo did something to prevent him. She stands extremely close to the device.

reylo1992 wrote:

Rei of Sunshine wrote:

reylo1992 wrote:

Saracene wrote:I admit, I'll roll my eyes if we get more of, Rey can get herself out of any scrap and needs no help from no one. Doesn't have to be Kylo who saves her, just please can we have Rey in a truly hopeless situation she can't fix. And I don't mean someone helping her along once she gets the ball rolling, I mean like Luke at the end of ESB.

@Saracene

In depends in which situation they are. We saw Rey being torturedby Snoke, which is not a spoiler. What if Kylo saves her and Snoke tries to make him pay for that, and Rey stands then because what he is going to do to him? In this situation, they would actuallly save each other. At least, I hope because from my side, I am also a little  fed up of Rey shown as kicking everyone's a**. I mean, she is shown having the upper hand at least 3 times in the trailers (under the rain with the lightsaber, under the rain with her staff, also on supremacy) and not against just one strong FS but at least 2 if not 3 (Luke, possibly Kylo, and Snoke since we know she escapes). That also gives us possibly the reason of the handreaching. Doesn't seem to me like Kylo is really asking for a hand here. Looks more like he is waiting thay she gives him something (back). Since we know she uses his lightsaber at some point, why not?

@reylo1992

If they exchange arms, it'd be like a marriage in the Force!

@Rei of Sunshine

https://reyloisblessed.tumblr.com/post/168283254052

It's interesting to note thatshe is sweaty there. I think that happened just after Snoke "tortured" her and Kylo did something to prevent him. She stands extremely close to the device.

@reylo1992

Oh hey, what if in the hand-scene, the reason why Kylo looks nervous is because he's not sure if Rey will hand him back his lightsaber, or use it against him. Like a mirror of what happened in TFA with Han.

I don't mind if Rey "saves the day" if Kylo is incapacitated. I just want her and Kylo to work together.  If Rey is Force pulling Kylo's light saber (which obviously she is), I hope she's doing it with Kylo's permission. I wouldn't want to see her overpower him and Force pull another light saber from him in another duel, lol. However, I doubt that's what happening for that reason alone: it already happened TFA. Something else is happening here.

I wonder where Rey/Luke's saber is? Maybe Kylo has it...

I wonder if this lightsaber shot is actually before the torture. Maybe Snoke is like, ok little girl I let you have your tantrums, now I'm down to business. I would have to presume that Snoke is more powerful than Rey and Kylo and they're not going to undermine him by having him beaten.

I really hope Snoke has more personality and verve in this movie.

So, I wonder what face Kylo will make this time. He can't catch a break with those sabers. xD (my edit)

@MrsWindu

This is so exciting! ^__^
There could be another gouard she is facing - in the BTS she fights three, so it makes sense. But then it also seems she fights them with Kylos lightsaber. Its a twist. 

Woo! That shot looks awesome.. And Rey using Kylo's lightsaber? Yes! I am sure Kylo will get up and fight too. Remember the trainng video? Adam was going full out there!

I just had a look at the last training BTS and she appears to be fighting 4 ( and there is a guy who has just moved out of the frame a second before) ? Excuse the bad screenshot and I don't know how to do gifs.

Omg guys! I wake up to this glorious new trailer *squeals with excitement* seriously must we wait another week???

MindAndMagic wrote:So, I wonder what face Kylo will make this time. He can't catch a break with those sabers. xD (my edit)

@MindAndMagic

All I can think of is the movie What Happens In Vegas. "what's yours is mine, honey!"

I saw that saber rey scene on insta and freaked thinking it was leaked. It's so spoilerish!!!! why would they reveal that?! ugh

New tv spot with new shot of masked Kylo!

I post this without reading this thread, please answer
my friends said that not only leaked dictionary, but even new official tv spot is too much spoiler, so I wounder in this spoiler free part of the forum, is this spot allowed? if even here will be too much spoilers I should leave this forum too, for 1 week, I already said goodbye to tweeter

and I also wounder is this tv spot really so heavy spoiler? I thought official info shouldn't give away anything that big, I just don't want to know main plot about Kylo and Rey and wasn't bothered with any info-spoilers until today

please answer

We've been so spoiled today! I hope the good news continues to come.

rey09 wrote:I saw that saber rey scene on insta and freaked thinking it was leaked. It's so spoilerish!!!! why would they reveal that?! ugh

@rey09

All I can say is I hope JJ will be just as generous come Episode lX. I'm enjoying this while it lasts

Anakin Skywalker wrote:I post this without reading this thread, please answer
my friends said that not only leaked dictionary, but even new official tv spot is too much spoiler, so I wounder in this spoiler free part of the forum, is this spot allowed? if even here will be too much spoilers I should leave this forum too, for 1 week, I already said goodbye to tweeter

and I also wounder is this tv spot really so heavy spoiler? I thought official info shouldn't give away anything that big, I just don't want to know main plot about Kylo and Rey and wasn't bothered with any info-spoilers until today

please answer

@Anakin Skywalker

Yes, I believe these news trailers are heavy spoiler. Well, I'm not the moderator, but I remember some days ago someone asked about the same thing, and the answer was that the official things aren't considered spolier, since they weren't leaked or something, but official. Disney/LF want us to see these scenes/imagens. So, yeah... Maybe it's your time to say goodbye.

Atenais wrote:

Anakin Skywalker wrote:I post this without reading this thread, please answer
my friends said that not only leaked dictionary, but even new official tv spot is too much spoiler, so I wounder in this spoiler free part of the forum, is this spot allowed? if even here will be too much spoilers I should leave this forum too, for 1 week, I already said goodbye to tweeter

and I also wounder is this tv spot really so heavy spoiler? I thought official info shouldn't give away anything that big, I just don't want to know main plot about Kylo and Rey and wasn't bothered with any info-spoilers until today

please answer

@Anakin Skywalker

Yes, I believe these news trailers are heavy spoiler. Well, I'm not the moderator, but I remember some days ago someone asked about the same thing, and the answer was that the official things aren't considered spolier, since they weren't leaked or something, but official. Disney/LF want us to see these scenes/imagens. So, yeah... Maybe it's your time to say goodbye.

@Atenais

I literally just got chewed out on Instagram by someone thinking I had already seen the movie and that I was posting spoilers. Oh boy...

Y'all - who's Kylo talking to when he says "Let's finish this"? Do you think it's Rey? I think it's got to be Rey. Please be Rey.

Anakin Skywalker wrote:I post this without reading this thread, please answer
my friends said that not only leaked dictionary, but even new official tv spot is too much spoiler, so I wounder in this spoiler free part of the forum, is this spot allowed? if even here will be too much spoilers I should leave this forum too, for 1 week, I already said goodbye to tweeter

and I also wounder is this tv spot really so heavy spoiler? I thought official info shouldn't give away anything that big, I just don't want to know main plot about Kylo and Rey and wasn't bothered with any info-spoilers until today

please answer

@Anakin Skywalker

In this forum material that is released for promotional purposes by Lucasfilm is not considered a spoiler (see rules). Therefore posting and talking about TV spots is allowed - it is released by LF to generate the hype and is part of the marketing that they want us to be excited about.

I understand you, the closer to the premiere, the more it is possible that there will be more new things from the movie and it is difficult. In this forum, you will find stuff that LF would want fans to see, but that can also be a bit too revealing for those who want to go to a movie and enjoy it without knowing too much. 
So it's up to you to decide if maybe its time to draw the line and then return after watching the movie with fresh strength because there will be a lot of discussing to do. ^_^

As per particular trailer - it contains one unexpected scene that got people excited and not only in the reylo fandom, so IMO, I could see that people consider that too revealing. Either way, LF wanted fans to talk about it because it's all over their official media.

Watch the language, R2!