ARCHIVE: Discussion: Spoilers/Rumors - 12

Kessel89 wrote:The puffins rumor sounds interesting. From their description, they're supposed to be cute so I bet Disney/LF will be making toys out of those little guys.

I couldn't help but get excited at the prospect of Rey potentially donning a black cape on Ahch-to. I mean, as far as we know, Rey didn't bring a black cape with her and we know Kylo will be there with a black cape. So, unless Luke brought a whole wardrobe with him to Ahch-to, it could very well be Kylo's cape, couldn't it!?

Based on that MSW description, imaging how the puffins might react to Kylo and his KOR makes me laugh.

ISeeAnIsland wrote:

nonesuch wrote:

Darth Dingbat wrote:

vaderito wrote:

Darth Dingbat wrote:

BastilaBey wrote:http://makingstarwars.net/2016/12/rumors-star-wars-episode-viii-and-the-protectors-of-ahch-to/

This sounds odd...

Rey wearing a black cloak at one point is very interesting though.

@BastilaBey

Space puffins and sea monsters? My dream of seeing the chicken monster is still alive!

Re: black cloak... I wonder who she got it from...

@Darth Dingbat

Can you find that Reddit rumor that said Luke had a pet? I'm at work and can't search Spoilers Archive properly but I think I filed it where.

@vaderito

Hmm, good thinking. Haven't found it yet, but I remember it...

@Darth Dingbat

I think this is it?

I am in a position that allows me to know certain details regarding the movie. There have been a lot of “leaks” recently that the crew has found nothing short of hilarious. People have been teasing Daisy Ridley calling her ‘My father’ on set as a joke after the whole bullshit Reddit post which went viral regarding Rey being the reincarnation of Anakin.
Now regarding the movie, here is a bit of information which some of you may find enticing.
- Laura Dern’s character is named Asala Qurd. She is playing the leader of one of the Republic’s military cruisers who were not near the planet that Starkiller blew up. She was a part of the group of politicians and military leaders who believed that the First Order posed no threat, and there is a verbal confrontation between her and Leia in which Dern says ‘ The daughter of Darth Vader has no right to lecture me!’
- Poe Dameron has more screen time and isn’t just in an X-wing like most of TFA.
- Hayden Christenson shot a scene during the nighttime at Pinewood, in which he communicates with both Luke and Rey.
- Kelly Tran is a really cool individual and is a really kind person who can’t act. I have no idea why they cast her in Star Wars. Her characters’ name is Shtala Zi, and is a Resistance contact on the planet that houses Beneicio Del Toro, more on him later. She has a safe-house there and it is seen that Poe knows her from before. Shtala goes out with Finn and Poe on a reconnaissance mission, and just as Finn starts getting attached to her and flirting a bit, The First Order strikes and it is made to seem that she died as she disappears after a huge explosion.
- Yoda also appears to Rey alone, but does speak to Luke without his actual ghost appearing.
- Captain Phasma appears and a gunfight between her squadron and Finn and Poe occurs, with Poe being wounded as he is shot at his wrist. ( I’m not sure but I think they’re going to let his hand be blown off to continue the tradition of a hand being cut off in each episode. )
- Luke explains to Rey the story of Kylo Ren, and how he destroyed everything Luke built after he was corrupted by Snoke. He also speaks of how Han and Ben Solo never really got along, as Ben saw Han as absent from his life. This absence allowed Snoke to really play with his mind.
- Luke mentions Qui-Gon Jin when explaining the light side to Rey.
- No Lando.
- Del Toro is a former bounty hunter and was a leader in the Republic who was not present during the explosion which destroyed the capital. After seeing the devastation, he decides that maybe joining the First Order is his only option and has extremely classified information regarding the Resistance that he plans on giving them in return for immunity. Kylo Ren kills him after Del Toro snickers at Kylo. I have no idea what his name in the movie is.
- Rey is extremely strong with the force but is erratic with it. She tends to tap into the dark side when sparring with Luke which makes him unwilling to train her. Luke has the company of a small animal furry thing on his island, which looks like a cross between a dog, an Ewok and a lizard.
- Leia is wounded in an explosion which prompts Luke to action, Rey also feels a disturbance in the force. They leave on the Falcon to join the rest.
- That’s all I really have. The second half of the third act of the movie is EXTREMELY under wraps. Literally maybe 8 people know what is going down. I asked someone who knows and she told me, “ You’ll wanna wait and see it in a crowded movie theatre.”

(The original link is dead, but the post can still be found here - http://www.cosmicbooknews.com/content/star-wars-episode-viii-rumors-star-wars-day)

The absence of any reference to Kylo and the KoR turning up on the island makes this deeply suspect, but the crossover re. Luke's animal friend is certainly interesting. I reckon it's probably just a lucky coincidence, though - there's no indication that the pet described in the 4Chan leak is any sort of bird.

@nonesuch

As with many "leaks" some of this jibes with what we've read from more reliable sources, but a lot of it doesn't.

Like you said, there's no mention of Kylo and the KoR showing up on Ahch-To. This leak also says that Rey and Luke leave in the Falcon after Leia is wounded...which doesn't fit with Leia getting injured fairly early on. Also, if KMT is wounded fairly soon after she meets Finn and Poe, that doesn't make sense with the later-in-the-movie scene that MSW described where Finn and KMT infiltrate a star destroyer.

There might be some lucky guesses here, or this person had access to a few things (I've seen that rumor about Hayden filming a scene at night at Pinewood in a few places), or most likely, they're reporting things that have been reported elsewhere (e.g. Kylo killing BdT for making fun of him) and adding a bit of their own headcanon.

Kessel89 wrote:The puffins rumor sounds interesting. From their description, they're supposed to be cute so I bet Disney/LF will be making toys out of those little guys.

I couldn't help but get excited at the prospect of Rey potentially donning a black cape on Ahch-to. I mean, as far as we know, Rey didn't bring a black cape with her and we know Kylo will be there with a black cape. So, unless Luke brought a whole wardrobe with him to Ahch-to, it could very well be Kylo's cape, couldn't it!?

Based on that MSW description, imaging how the puffins might react to Kylo and his KOR makes me laugh.

Kessel89 wrote:

Based on that MSW description, imaging how the puffins might react to Kylo and his KOR makes me laugh.

ISeeAnIsland wrote:

Kessel89 wrote:The puffins rumor sounds interesting. From their description, they're supposed to be cute so I bet Disney/LF will be making toys out of those little guys.

I couldn't help but get excited at the prospect of Rey potentially donning a black cape on Ahch-to. I mean, as far as we know, Rey didn't bring a black cape with her and we know Kylo will be there with a black cape. So, unless Luke brought a whole wardrobe with him to Ahch-to, it could very well be Kylo's cape, couldn't it!?

Based on that MSW description, imaging how the puffins might react to Kylo and his KOR makes me laugh.

@Kessel89

I'm taking the black cloak with a grain of salt. It could be Kylo's... But based on Luke's costume description, it could also be Luke's.

Or it could simply be something that Daisy wore between takes on the set (like the characters involved in the Durbrovnik shoot, who all had to wear black cloaks over their costumes).

Rimfaxe96 wrote:Official art for the 2017 Star Wars Celebration in Orlando: http://www.starwars.com/news/exclusive-reveal-artist-paul-shipper-on-star-wars-celebration-orlandos-badge-art

Rimfaxe96 wrote:Official art for the 2017 Star Wars Celebration in Orlando: http://www.starwars.com/news/exclusive-reveal-artist-paul-shipper-on-star-wars-celebration-orlandos-badge-art

IoJovi wrote:

Rimfaxe96 wrote:Official art for the 2017 Star Wars Celebration in Orlando: http://www.starwars.com/news/exclusive-reveal-artist-paul-shipper-on-star-wars-celebration-orlandos-badge-art

@Rimfaxe96

I saw that!!! I got an update in my inbox today that 4 day tickets for Orlando Celebration were almost sold out in case I was interested in purchasing any more. I'll be opting for the one with Kylo, for sure...

I've been at work all day, and I am just now catching up. Am I understanding it correctly that Rey will be seen with a black cape in VIII? If this is the case, it's one of two possibilities. The first one (and most mundane) is that she is simply wearing a covering to shield her costume from the outside world to prevent spoilers.

The second one is FAR more intriguing and I'm sure it's not hard to guess. She probably is offered it by a certain someone who's afraid of her getting cold after falling into the water...

Kessel89 wrote:The puffins rumor sounds interesting. From their description, they're supposed to be cute so I bet Disney/LF will be making toys out of those little guys.

I couldn't help but get excited at the prospect of Rey potentially donning a black cape on Ahch-to. I mean, as far as we know, Rey didn't bring a black cape with her and we know Kylo will be there with a black cape. So, unless Luke brought a whole wardrobe with him to Ahch-to, it could very well be Kylo's cape, couldn't it!?

Based on that MSW description, imaging how the puffins might react to Kylo and his KOR makes me laugh.

ZioRen wrote:

IoJovi wrote:

Rimfaxe96 wrote:Official art for the 2017 Star Wars Celebration in Orlando: http://www.starwars.com/news/exclusive-reveal-artist-paul-shipper-on-star-wars-celebration-orlandos-badge-art

@Rimfaxe96

I saw that!!! I got an update in my inbox today that 4 day tickets for Orlando Celebration were almost sold out in case I was interested in purchasing any more. I'll be opting for the one with Kylo, for sure...

I've been at work all day, and I am just now catching up. Am I understanding it correctly that Rey will be seen with a black cape in VIII? If this is the case, it's one of two possibilities. The first one (and most mundane) is that she is simply wearing a covering to shield her costume from the outside world to prevent spoilers.

The second one is FAR more intriguing and I'm sure it's not hard to guess. She probably is offered it by a certain someone who's afraid of her getting cold after falling into the water...

@IoJovi

Even if it isn't Kylo's cloak, the fact that she's wearing black is pretty telling. Star Wars always plays with the symbolism of darker vs lighter clothing.

Birdwoman wrote:I am also wondering if there is a time when one them rescues the other from various creatures? Then they form an uneasy alliance? I know MSW did state that they would be having a discussion at some point.

Rimfaxe96 wrote:

Birdwoman wrote:I am also wondering if there is a time when one them rescues the other from various creatures? Then they form an uneasy alliance? I know MSW did state that they would be having a discussion at some point.

@Birdwoman

That's what I've been thinking, too.

Maria Antonietta wrote:Yay for the details, but where's the main conflict and the interesting relationship? where's the Jedi temple? Why Rey goes off to rescue Leia? Where's the ocean? Where's the island? Where are the "ramifications"?!

IoJovi wrote:

Maria Antonietta wrote:Yay for the details, but where's the main conflict and the interesting relationship? where's the Jedi temple? Why Rey goes off to rescue Leia? Where's the ocean? Where's the island? Where are the "ramifications"?!

@Maria Antonietta

I'm going to guess all of this occurs very early on in the film - maybe the first act. Then Dangerous Dreamboat finally arrives...

So given that, as much as I'd love for Rey to be wearing Kylo's cloak, I'm going to guess it's a covering for her actual costume.

IoJovi wrote:

ZioRen wrote:

IoJovi wrote:

Rimfaxe96 wrote:Official art for the 2017 Star Wars Celebration in Orlando: http://www.starwars.com/news/exclusive-reveal-artist-paul-shipper-on-star-wars-celebration-orlandos-badge-art

@Rimfaxe96

I saw that!!! I got an update in my inbox today that 4 day tickets for Orlando Celebration were almost sold out in case I was interested in purchasing any more.  I'll be opting for the one with Kylo, for sure...  

I've been at work all day, and I am just now catching up.  Am I understanding it correctly that Rey will be seen with a black cape in VIII?  If this is the case, it's one of two possibilities.  The first one (and most mundane) is that she is simply wearing a covering to shield her costume from the outside world to prevent spoilers.

The second one is FAR more intriguing and I'm sure it's not hard to guess.  She probably is offered it by a certain someone who's afraid of her getting cold after falling into the water...

@IoJovi

Even if it isn't Kylo's cloak, the fact that she's wearing black is pretty telling. Star Wars always plays with the symbolism of darker vs lighter clothing.

@ZioRen

That's true, but unless she brought a black cloak with her (unlikely), there's really only one option on who else it could belong to...  Such a gentleman...

Maria Antonietta wrote:

IoJovi wrote:

Maria Antonietta wrote:Yay for the details, but where's the main conflict and the interesting relationship? where's the Jedi temple? Why Rey goes off to rescue Leia? Where's the ocean? Where's the island? Where are the "ramifications"?!

@Maria Antonietta

I'm going to guess all of this occurs very early on in the film - maybe the first act.  Then Dangerous Dreamboat finally arrives...  

So given that, as much as I'd love for Rey to be wearing Kylo's cloak, I'm going to guess it's a covering for her actual costume.  

@IoJovi

I'm so ready for disappointment. Don't worry, guys! I'm usually a pessimistic person

Rogue Rey wrote:Well according to Wookieepedia the fauna of Ahch-To is: Birds!

And JJ talks about the birds on Skellig Michael being there on the first day of filming and then being gone the next in the Director's Commentary for TFA.

I was just watching the trailer for Three Outlaw Samurai - which is one of the films Rian Johnson has named as an influence for VIII, and it gives a description for each of the Samurai - Wild Samurai, Passionate Samurai and Mysterious Samurai.  Hmmmmm could we have Wild (Luke), Passionate (Rey) and Mysterious (Kylo) or switch Rey and Kylo round so Rey is Mysterious (given the number of mystery boxes associated to her) and Kylo is Passionate.

Here's the trailer for anyone who's interested:

snufkin wrote:This is the same site who were saying a couple weeks ago that "black cape" equals wearing Vader's cape? And yet no similar conjecture in this situation? That would be hilarious though if it does end up with him loaning her his sweet cape, that's such a cliche.