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SoloSideCousin wrote:

rey09 wrote:@solosidecousin And seeing as how his parents are sarcastically hilarious, it'd be interesting to see how much of that humor is in him! lol

@rey09

I was shocked that they had him play any humor at all in TFA, so I do think as Kylo/Ben lightens a lot more of Han-Leia snark is going to come out.

@IoJovi, I didn't mention it in the post above, but AD's acting with Sample (the baby niece) on Girls gives me a ton of confidence that AD would be able to handle any kind of animal/kid thing in a smart, non-sappy, non-cheesy way.  On Girls you know that Adam Sackler cares deeply for Sample, but he is never corny or sentimental about it.  It's all very pragmatic and real and funny in a deadpan sort of way.  I imagine something similar for coming across if Kylo were to have to deal with small creatures in a sympathetic manner.

@"Darth Awakened", I don't want any Ewokization either.  I liked them as an 8 year old, but considering what could have been done with ROTJ, (thanks for @CienaRee and @snufkin for information about Kasdan's wishes) now I feel as they were the harbinger of the "kiddie turn" that we saw with Jar Jar and TPM, so definitely not a favorite of mine, especially since I am a fan of darker, more adult SW, like we got with Kylo's story in TFA and like we got in RO.  In fact, if the creatures were ugly and nastyish and looked like they were as ready to bite you and lick you would actually work better for the "humanizing Kylo" moment, because it would show him being accepting in a way his "can I get this walking carpet out of my way" mother was not and certainly his Tusken-slaughtering grandfather was not. Also, it would make him less "humans only"/imperialish.  Actually, come to think of it, Han was pretty pragmatic and accepting of all comers.  This could also be spun in a way that makes him look more like his father.  But it is definitely all about how it is done ... but this Wired article that somebody posted on the forum gives me hope that they won't make another Ewok mistake.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/tastemakers-kathleen-kennedy-star-wars

Rogue Rey wrote:Talking of How To Train Your Dragon.  This scene is kind of familiar.  It's when Hiccup is tasked with capturing a dragon and kill it, but he can't kill Toothless and a lasting trust/bond/friendship is forged.



I have to admit that I'm not a fan of the Ewok's - perhaps it's because I was an adult when I first properly watched ROTJ and just found them really annoying - but never as annoying as Jar Jar etc ::shudders::  So the idea of Puffin/Furby creatures is a bit mixed for me - maybe cutesy for kids (and great for toy sales) but unless they're somewhat menacing then they might be annoying to adults (well me at least).  

I did just read this article http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1602890/a-wild-star-wars-rumor-is-going-around-about-who-rey-might-fight-in-episode-8 about the puffin/gremlins and sea monsters and the few lines at the bottom made me think that some people are still expecting Luke to be the star of the rest of the trilogy.  Don't get me wrong I want to see Luke in action too (and Mark will no doubt have top billing) but this trilogy isn't about Luke, it's about the next generation.  The passing of the torch so to speak.  I'm sure Luke will have a bad*** moment but he's not going to be the center of the story going forward - he's going to be the Yoda/Obi-wan role, isn't he???  

I think we will see more of sarcastic Kylo in VIII (I at least hope we do) and it was Adam's deadpan timing that JJ fell in love with Adam over.  Besides they've got to reiterate the value of who he is rather than what he is - he's Han and Leia son and not just the bad guy.

Saracene wrote:Err... sorry but humanising Kylo with fluffy animals sounds like a frakkin awful idea to me. People who hate him for murdering Han aren't going to be converted because he's nice to cute widdle puffins.

Also, while Kylo does have some humour in TFA, it’s pretty much confined to the part of the movie where he’s still presented as a stereotypical villain and they haven’t revealed his heritage yet.

Darth_Awakened wrote:

SoloSideCousin wrote:

rey09 wrote:@solosidecousin And seeing as how his parents are sarcastically hilarious, it'd be interesting to see how much of that humor is in him! lol

@rey09

I was shocked that they had him play any humor at all in TFA, so I do think as Kylo/Ben lightens a lot more of Han-Leia snark is going to come out.

@IoJovi, I didn't mention it in the post above, but AD's acting with Sample (the baby niece) on Girls gives me a ton of confidence that AD would be able to handle any kind of animal/kid thing in a smart, non-sappy, non-cheesy way.  On Girls you know that Adam Sackler cares deeply for Sample, but he is never corny or sentimental about it.  It's all very pragmatic and real and funny in a deadpan sort of way.  I imagine something similar for coming across if Kylo were to have to deal with small creatures in a sympathetic manner.

@"Darth Awakened", I don't want any Ewokization either.  I liked them as an 8 year old, but considering what could have been done with ROTJ, (thanks for @CienaRee and @snufkin for information about Kasdan's wishes) now I feel as they were the harbinger of the "kiddie turn" that we saw with Jar Jar and TPM, so definitely not a favorite of mine, especially since I am a fan of darker, more adult SW, like we got with Kylo's story in TFA and like we got in RO.  In fact, if the creatures were ugly and nastyish and looked like they were as ready to bite you and lick you would actually work better for the "humanizing Kylo" moment, because it would show him being accepting in a way his "can I get this walking carpet out of my way" mother was not and certainly his Tusken-slaughtering grandfather was not. Also, it would make him less "humans only"/imperialish.  Actually, come to think of it, Han was pretty pragmatic and accepting of all comers.  This could also be spun in a way that makes him look more like his father.  But it is definitely all about how it is done ... but this Wired article that somebody posted on the forum gives me hope that they won't make another Ewok mistake.

http://www.wired.co.uk/article/tastemakers-kathleen-kennedy-star-wars

@SoloSideCousin

I actually brought Yoda example in here, because he was so well integrated in the story of ESB (unlike Ewoks - who seemed a bit out of place and their purpose of being an apparent filler I didn't like at all. Of course, I found them cute when I was a kid, but during my multiple watching of ROTJ I must admit I skipped their scenes.
On the contrary I never do it with Yoda scenes - Kasdan and Kershner used the character very wise. He was cute, he serves as comical relief (his misunderstandings with R2 were hilarious), but at the same time when his true identity of great Jedi master was reveled - he played a big role in the hero's journey, without being ripped off his cute, little green persona. Kids adored him - even if they did not completely understand his serious role.
Yoda's physical feature gave some light mood however, that's the point I agree with @vaderito.
As kid, of all scenes, I was scarred the most by the cave darkness test. If it not for Yoda around it would be perhaps even more terrifying.
Yoda, as well, was a part of Dagobah eerie atmosphere - which was menacing by the sole look of it.

That's why I'am sticking to my hopes high that out episode VIII puffins would be used in very similar way. Of course I do not imply the literal Yoda copy-paste - they're not for sure an ancient Jedi masters - actually I hope they are some sort of creatures who have some spiritual and Force related insight (it's becoming more and more obvious with Rebels and R1 that the exploration of the ways of Force will far more large than simply Jedi-Sith simple conflict).

IoJovi wrote:

SoloSideCousin wrote:Yeah, the puffin thing has the potential to be interesting in a lot of ways.

First, like @vaderito says above, Adam Driver is outstanding at comedy, especially the dry comedy that would be needed for Kylo.  In fact, TFA already opened this door with "A droid stole a freighter" and "Anything else?"  I think JJ said something like he would love AD forever or something, lol, after the delivery of that "Anything else?" line.  Also, to this day my husband and I still joke with each other with that deadpan "A droid stole a freighter."

But beyond that, the puffins could provide the opportunity to show Kylo's humanity to Rey and the audience in general.  Imagine a scene where he is talking to Rey and/or Luke, perhaps pretty snarkily, while at the same time he is mindlessly throwing food to the puffins and/or petting them.  I don't know if anyone has ever seen How to Train Your Dragon, but I am reminded of that scene where Hiccup is sitting on the beach with Toothless and he throws a Terrible Terror (a little dragon) a fish and the dragon comes up to Hiccup and curls up next to him like a dog.  That kind of thing was a big deal moment in HTTYD because of the plot about proving dragons weren't bad, but they could do it more subtle here where some puffin that Kylo has been feeding ends up coming up and sitting on Kylo's lap, and Kylo mindlessly starts to pet him, not bothered at all.  IOW, Kylo is not only comfortable with the puffins, but they are comfortable with him, so comfortable that he doesn't think for a second that he's petting a puffin while having some existential moment with Rey and/or Luke ... but Rey and the audience with notice it, which will be a surprise for her and many, since she might think he'd slice them all up without a thought.

They could also go the "animal whisperer" route with him, as there is precedent for it with Ezra in Rebels. IMO that's a trickier scenario because it could get "too on the nose" or it could turn into just another "checkbox" Force skill.  But it could be handled well and to similar effect to the "petting puffins" thing if and when Kylo and Rey confront some kind of animal, and she's ready to take it on, he chooses to soothe it instead.  That could also provide an interesting opportunity for "where do your dark side traits lie".  If Rey goes into "full-Jakku" with the animals and he opts to soothe them, it would nicely muddy the waters of the default premise that "she is light and he is dark."  After seeing RO, I really, really think that they might do some of that.

@SoloSideCousin

I was firmly with @reylo1992 before I read this post.  I was thinking thw fluffiness of it all would be extremely out of place on Ach-To, but now I see differently how it could all go.  Thank you for this!!!

Read part 1 first: https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/5h53rn/casting_star_wars_on_felicity_jones_kelly_marie/

Hey everyone, hope you're all having a great holiday season. Since you guys seemed to have a great reaction to the last post, I thought I'd answer some of your questions from there an elaborate a little bit more on some of the stuff I mentioned.

/u/morbidexpression "sounds like KK was undermining Edwards from day one. What was their dynamic like working together? Was Edwards as swamped by studio politics as it looked from the outside? Still, s*** of Kennedy not to back her director. Sets the tone. I mean, he was her choice! Make a choice, trust the talent when they fight tooth and nail about something. If you thought their talent was worth entrusting hundreds of millions of dollars to, surely their judgement is as well."

I don't know all that much about the whole dynamic as I didn't really work closely with them. I was an assistant to someone who did. From what I could glean, Kennedy's decision was the be-all-end-all, and if anyone had an idea of what they wanted and it went against her opinion, she would have to be convinced. It wasn't like a big fight or anything, but you had to sell her on it. Rian Johnson sold her on Kelly Marie Tran very much so, for example She would not have been Kennedy's first choice.

/u/DremoraGirl "Any reason why Kathy wanted Felicity Jones over Tatiana Maslany? Maslany is fantastic in orphan black, and if the director really wanted her you'd think there must have been a pretty good reason for it to be overruled."
I don't know exactly. All I know is it was a last-minute choice. Maslany was almost a lock for it, to the point where the trades starting picking up stories saying she was cast. Then Kennedy was like "nope, we're going with Felicity". It was more about loving something with one of Felicity's last auditions than a dislike for Maslany or Edwards.

"On that note, any particular reason why all the contenders for Jyns part were white brunettes? It's as if they wanted us to think that she's Reys mother, but then they go an vehemently deny that she is. I know a lot of people were hoping that she was going to be Reys mother simply because it comes across as pretty racist to only be looking at white brunettes if the role could have gone to anyone. But then, of course, they cast Emelia Clarke. Another white brunette. The only white woman out of a short list of 6. I think a lot of people just accepted then that there are race issues going on here. Is this Kathy Kennedy living out some self-insert fantasy? Why has literally every female protagonist in Star Wars been a white brunette?"

I honestly don't have an answer for this one. There are other female characters being cast that aren't white, but are in supporting roles. More on that below...

"Except, of course, Kelly Marie Tran. I'm pretty excited for her role as it seems very important, and I hope it is genuinely as big as they're hyping it up to be. Can you elaborate at all on why Rian wanted her to be non-white to "subvert expectations"? Is it because he's sick of the white brunettes too? Lol."

From the very little I know, having KMT's character be a nonwhite race subverts the expectations for her in the movie. Like she's playing someone who would be expected to be white? That's what I got from it. Not the same thing as ":eek: Finn is a BLACK stormtrooper! What a progressive thing!" but more something integral to the plot. I'm not quite sure what that means, but take from it what you will.

/u/nirvanamania "were you part of other focus groups of other castings?"
I worked exclusively with the casting of female parts. The most recent testing I was working on before I got let go was a supporting role in the Han Solo movie. Female character, is supposed to be a sidekick to Emilia Clarke. Everyone being tested for this role was nonwhite. We were narrowing them down while higher ups @ LFL were still deciding who would get the role that eventually went to Clarke.

From what little info I got about Clarke's character and this sidekick, they're part of some kind of acrobatic group, which is led by Clarke. I don't mean like an acrobat show in a circus, but it's a team that uses physicality like acrobatics for whatever reason that's pertinent to the story.

An interesting tidbit, Anna Akana, who tested for the KMT role, was back for this supporting HS role. While I was still working there, there were about 2 dozen girls left to test, but I did notice that this past week or so via social media, that Anna has been in London, which is where final chemistry tests and auditions are usually held. We did them right @ Pinewood with the directors setting up shop for shooting. If Anna is indeed in London for final auditions, that probably means the role is either going to her or two other girls. Since the casting net was so wide when I was let go, it's kinda impossible for me to tell who the other two would possibly be, but yeah.

One side note about Akana as well: She has an in at Lucasfilm. Simon Kinberg knows some screenwriter guy she's friends with who is talking her up a lot. Kinberg, as a lot of you know, is a big part of SW right now, and while his stand-alone film (the one with Josh Trank before it got pushed back) isn't gonna be out for awhile, he has a lot of influence on other LFL productions. So for a lot of the projects recently (both animated and live action), he's been able to get Anna a foot in the door. I've worked with her personally in the auditions, and she's a nice lady, but I don't think she has the acting chops for Star Wars. She's fine, I don't think she'd hurt a movie, but there are better people out there... which is why I don't think she's booked any SW roles even though she's been in the final group multiple times. But yeah, she has connections. You'll probably be seeing her name somewhere in the near future, maybe not necessarily in a SW movie.

/u/Nonsuch42 "Since the actresses had to test alongside another character(s) who had already been cast, who did test scenes with the actresses for Rey and the actresses for KMT's part? I've heard that both sets of actresses tested with John/Finn before, but I'm curious to find out if they tested alongside anyone else. Also, any info on the kind of scenes they were auditioned with?"
Daisy was the first to be cast in VII, so John actually tested with her rather than the other way around. KMT and the group she was picked from tested with John Boyega and Mark Hamill. I don't know what kinds of scenes were tested, but they used actual dialogue from the films' scripts. For both cases, i.e., VII and VIII.

/u/Nonsuch42 *"And final question - when you say KMT's role is the juiciest in the movie, do you man it's even juicer than the parts of the remaining leads? I struggle to believe that she'd have a juicer role than Daisy, for example!"
I don't know firsthand. Only people mentioning stuff. Her role is "juicy" due to something going on in the last part of the movie. Like she turns out to be something you're not expecting. That's all I know, and most of that is just extrapolated from little comments by people.

/u/pjedi "The thing I don't understand however, is you say you don't know specifics or backstory to the characters, so how can you cast effectively? In other words, why were people of colour considered for the role of Rey? Wouldn't she have to match her parents' ethnicity Or is it simply to "offset" as you mentioned and throw reporters off the scent of the trail?"

I don't know the specifics of the character. My bosses of course did. I could tell you some things about some characters' personalities/size of their roles, but they're very bland things. For example, KMT's character is very tense, uptight, yet reserved and stern. Almost paranoid. Emilia Clarke's is a tough smartass "big boss" role. Rey actually was very tough and short-tempered in casting. It wasn't until they cast Daisy, I think, that they softened the role.

What's interesting is yeah, we do cast (or I guess, "narrow" the casting pool) based on how people fit with the initial character descriptions I mentioned above, but other factors come in too like star power, charisma, and just an overall feel. Daisy would not have made it to the top of the casting pool if we sifted through candidates solely based on the original personality description. In the end, actually, it came down to two types of Reys. Alice Handoll (who I mentioned in the previous post) brought a kind of Star Wars punk rock vibe to the role, which fit the original character personality for Rey. But J.J. and Kennedy liked the softer approach Daisy gave the role. I'm actually kind of curious if TFA would have done as well as it did if Alice was chosen. I don't think Rey would have had the same appeal.

And parents' ethnicity usually doesn't come in to play until very late in casting, and that's for multiple reasons. And for the record, I don't know if Rey is a Skywalker or anything. Some people certainly do know the answer to that question, but at my time of employment, they were above my pay grade. Early casting is usually race blind because a) we don't want to tip off roles that are dependent on parents' ethnicity b) we don't want casting calls if they leak, to seem racist c) even if the role is intended for a white actress, we still want to keep our options open.

So yeah, there you go! If you have any more questions, I'll try to answer in the comments. Merry Christmas everyone!

nonesuch wrote:The Reddit poster who claims to have insight into the casting process is back with more. What they have to say about KMT is particularly interesting:

Read part 1 first: https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/5h53rn/casting_star_wars_on_felicity_jones_kelly_marie/

Hey everyone, hope you're all having a great holiday season. Since you guys seemed to have a great reaction to the last post, I thought I'd answer some of your questions from there an elaborate a little bit more on some of the stuff I mentioned.

/u/morbidexpression "sounds like KK was undermining Edwards from day one. What was their dynamic like working together? Was Edwards as swamped by studio politics as it looked from the outside? Still, s*** of Kennedy not to back her director. Sets the tone. I mean, he was her choice! Make a choice, trust the talent when they fight tooth and nail about something. If you thought their talent was worth entrusting hundreds of millions of dollars to, surely their judgement is as well."

I don't know all that much about the whole dynamic as I didn't really work closely with them. I was an assistant to someone who did. From what I could glean, Kennedy's decision was the be-all-end-all, and if anyone had an idea of what they wanted and it went against her opinion, she would have to be convinced. It wasn't like a big fight or anything, but you had to sell her on it. Rian Johnson sold her on Kelly Marie Tran very much so, for example She would not have been Kennedy's first choice.

/u/DremoraGirl "Any reason why Kathy wanted Felicity Jones over Tatiana Maslany? Maslany is fantastic in orphan black, and if the director really wanted her you'd think there must have been a pretty good reason for it to be overruled."
I don't know exactly. All I know is it was a last-minute choice. Maslany was almost a lock for it, to the point where the trades starting picking up stories saying she was cast. Then Kennedy was like "nope, we're going with Felicity". It was more about loving something with one of Felicity's last auditions than a dislike for Maslany or Edwards.

"On that note, any particular reason why all the contenders for Jyns part were white brunettes? It's as if they wanted us to think that she's Reys mother, but then they go an vehemently deny that she is. I know a lot of people were hoping that she was going to be Reys mother simply because it comes across as pretty racist to only be looking at white brunettes if the role could have gone to anyone. But then, of course, they cast Emelia Clarke. Another white brunette. The only white woman out of a short list of 6. I think a lot of people just accepted then that there are race issues going on here. Is this Kathy Kennedy living out some self-insert fantasy? Why has literally every female protagonist in Star Wars been a white brunette?"

I honestly don't have an answer for this one. There are other female characters being cast that aren't white, but are in supporting roles. More on that below...

"Except, of course, Kelly Marie Tran. I'm pretty excited for her role as it seems very important, and I hope it is genuinely as big as they're hyping it up to be. Can you elaborate at all on why Rian wanted her to be non-white to "subvert expectations"? Is it because he's sick of the white brunettes too? Lol."

From the very little I know, having KMT's character be a nonwhite race subverts the expectations for her in the movie. Like she's playing someone who would be expected to be white? That's what I got from it. Not the same thing as ":eek:  Finn is a BLACK stormtrooper! What a progressive thing!" but more something integral to the plot. I'm not quite sure what that means, but take from it what you will.

/u/nirvanamania "were you part of other focus groups of other castings?"
I worked exclusively with the casting of female parts. The most recent testing I was working on before I got let go was a supporting role in the Han Solo movie. Female character, is supposed to be a sidekick to Emilia Clarke. Everyone being tested for this role was nonwhite. We were narrowing them down while higher ups @ LFL were still deciding who would get the role that eventually went to Clarke.

From what little info I got about Clarke's character and this sidekick, they're part of some kind of acrobatic group, which is led by Clarke. I don't mean like an acrobat show in a circus, but it's a team that uses physicality like acrobatics for whatever reason that's pertinent to the story.

An interesting tidbit, Anna Akana, who tested for the KMT role, was back for this supporting HS role. While I was still working there, there were about 2 dozen girls left to test, but I did notice that this past week or so via social media, that Anna has been in London, which is where final chemistry tests and auditions are usually held. We did them right @ Pinewood with the directors setting up shop for shooting. If Anna is indeed in London for final auditions, that probably means the role is either going to her or two other girls. Since the casting net was so wide when I was let go, it's kinda impossible for me to tell who the other two would possibly be, but yeah.

One side note about Akana as well: She has an in at Lucasfilm. Simon Kinberg knows some screenwriter guy she's friends with who is talking her up a lot. Kinberg, as a lot of you know, is a big part of SW right now, and while his stand-alone film (the one with Josh Trank before it got pushed back) isn't gonna be out for awhile, he has a lot of influence on other LFL productions. So for a lot of the projects recently (both animated and live action), he's been able to get Anna a foot in the door. I've worked with her personally in the auditions, and she's a nice lady, but I don't think she has the acting chops for Star Wars. She's fine, I don't think she'd hurt a movie, but there are better people out there... which is why I don't think she's booked any SW roles even though she's been in the final group multiple times. But yeah, she has connections. You'll probably be seeing her name somewhere in the near future, maybe not necessarily in a SW movie.

/u/Nonsuch42 "Since the actresses had to test alongside another character(s) who had already been cast, who did test scenes with the actresses for Rey and the actresses for KMT's part? I've heard that both sets of actresses tested with John/Finn before, but I'm curious to find out if they tested alongside anyone else. Also, any info on the kind of scenes they were auditioned with?"
Daisy was the first to be cast in VII, so John actually tested with her rather than the other way around. KMT and the group she was picked from tested with John Boyega and Mark Hamill. I don't know what kinds of scenes were tested, but they used actual dialogue from the films' scripts. For both cases, i.e., VII and VIII.

/u/Nonsuch42 *"And final question - when you say KMT's role is the juiciest in the movie, do you man it's even juicer than the parts of the remaining leads? I struggle to believe that she'd have a juicer role than Daisy, for example!"
I don't know firsthand. Only people mentioning stuff. Her role is "juicy" due to something going on in the last part of the movie. Like she turns out to be something you're not expecting. That's all I know, and most of that is just extrapolated from little comments by people.

/u/pjedi "The thing I don't understand however, is you say you don't know specifics or backstory to the characters, so how can you cast effectively? In other words, why were people of colour considered for the role of Rey? Wouldn't she have to match her parents' ethnicity  Or is it simply to "offset" as you mentioned and throw reporters off the scent of the trail?"

I don't know the specifics of the character. My bosses of course did. I could tell you some things about some characters' personalities/size of their roles, but they're very bland things. For example, KMT's character is very tense, uptight, yet reserved and stern. Almost paranoid. Emilia Clarke's is a tough smartass "big boss" role. Rey actually was very tough and short-tempered in casting. It wasn't until they cast Daisy, I think, that they softened the role.

What's interesting is yeah, we do cast (or I guess, "narrow" the casting pool) based on how people fit with the initial character descriptions I mentioned above, but other factors come in too like star power, charisma, and just an overall feel. Daisy would not have made it to the top of the casting pool if we sifted through candidates solely based on the original personality description. In the end, actually, it came down to two types of Reys. Alice Handoll (who I mentioned in the previous post) brought a kind of Star Wars punk rock vibe to the role, which fit the original character personality for Rey. But J.J. and Kennedy liked the softer approach Daisy gave the role. I'm actually kind of curious if TFA would have done as well as it did if Alice was chosen. I don't think Rey would have had the same appeal.

And parents' ethnicity usually doesn't come in to play until very late in casting, and that's for multiple reasons. And for the record, I don't know if Rey is a Skywalker or anything. Some people certainly do know the answer to that question, but at my time of employment, they were above my pay grade. Early casting is usually race blind because a) we don't want to tip off roles that are dependent on parents' ethnicity b) we don't want casting calls if they leak, to seem racist c) even if the role is intended for a white actress, we still want to keep our options open.

So yeah, there you go! If you have any more questions, I'll try to answer in the comments. Merry Christmas everyone!

https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/5jq2nm/casting_star_wars_pt_ii/

I know some people discount Reddit posts purely on the basis of their being from Reddit, but this 'leak' is certainly more plausible than most.

Working on the assumption that there is truth in this, how do you interpret the part about KMT's casting being unexpected given her race? And, perhaps even more intriguingly, her testing with Mark as well as John?

Rogue Rey wrote:I have a question:

What is this space chicken that is getting mentioned every now and then?

Is it that fleshy lump (I think it could be Unkar Plutt) seen in some of the long shots of the filming in Ireland?  

Judging by some insider details that we have about the role, it seems like the new, female character will have strong ties to the Solo family, and all signs seem to be pointing towards her being Han’s daughter.

BastilaBey wrote:I love this description of KMT's character. If it's true, she sounds like such a contrast to Finn that there would be lots of opportunity for conflict and development between them.

For the Rey stuff, yeah you can tell from some of the concept art and novelizations that she was originally going to be much tougher. In one of the books, she thinks about bashing Kylo's brains in with his helmet before he takes it off in the interrogation. What a delightful cinnamon roll...

soulluos wrote:I think Daisy mentioned that she suggested to JJ to bring some softness to Rey's character during the filming of VII.
But no mention of new actresses who auditioned for the roles? We already knew all of them.

SanghaRen wrote:KMT's character being Luke's student and maybe Luke's daughter would be awesome. That would turn everything upside down. She would know what really happened and maybe that Luke's not that innocent. And people would have their Skywalker cousins. That would make her force sensitive too. Maybe she'd be more the Leia one who does not wish to train in the Force while Kylo is the Luke one who was eager - too eager? - to train. But then I still don't see Luke having any child. I am wary about getting some hints like that already now. At the same time they might be getting more stringent when the release date approaches.

Saracene wrote:I can't stand Ewoks either, if you haven't guessed it already

Darth Dingbat wrote:This Anna Akana that the Reddit poster keeps mentioning - is it the same Anna Akana who's in this Star Wars fan film?

soulluos wrote:

Darth Dingbat wrote:This Anna Akana that the Reddit poster keeps mentioning - is it the same Anna Akana who's in this Star Wars fan film?

@Darth Dingbat

Yep.